The Firefly 2 Vaporizer For Dry Herb & Concentrates

Firefly 2 This is the Firefly 2, a portable convection vaporizer that heats your material solely with super-heated air, and this makes it different than most other vapes out there.

What are its advantages?

Superb flavor, especially for a portable.
Excellent efficiency, vapes as little as 0.1g.
Works great with both dry herb and concentrates.
On-demand heating means nothing wasted between draws.

Check out my full review video below for everything you need to know about this vape. Close up pics, demo sessions, my face – it’s all in there:

Overall I feel that this is an excellent vaporizer, but because of the specialized nature in which it heats and the mild technique required for best results I highly recommend watching more of my videos about it to ensure it’s up your alley. Keep scrolling for more vids.

Buy one from the official Firefly store. They do compensate me for referring you if you buy through my link and if you decide to do so I truly appreciate your support!

You can also order from the authorized Firefly dealer I personally recommend here.

Stay up!
-Bud

Firefly 2 Vaporizer
VapeRating: 95/100 (Tier 1 Top Pick) by The Vape Critic


This video is about how to use the FF2 to get the best results from it:

Slow, long draws are key with this one. You’ll need to pull for ~10-20 seconds if you want big clouds of visible vapor, otherwise ~5-10 second draws will still deliver the effects you just won’t see a lot.


This is my video comparison of the Firefly 2, Crafty and PAX 2 – it’s long but there’s a ton of good info in here:

Even though I consider these three of my favorites they do differ pretty significantly in how they work. I fully explain all of this in the vid and really break down how these vapes compare.


Here’s a quick teaser clip I posted on Instagram:

A video posted by The Vape Critic (@vapecritic) on


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320 comments:
  1. Chris
    January 20, 2017 at 11:44 am

    TO ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE FIREFLY WARS HERE IS MY STORY…I got a Firely 2, thought it looked great. I didnt have any herb when I got it so I blasted a load of top quality concenterate(shatter) through it, I was in love immediately, it was a great experience.

    Then weeks later when I got some herb I loaded the Firely 2, boy was I dissapointed just it had a really hard draw, it worked but only after going ‘fnnnggg’ for 15 seconds and getting a red face. I couldn’t believe it, I must have been fooling myself I thought. After trying everything, including a thorough clean I threw the Firefly 2 in my sock draw, went back to my Crafty and forgot about it….but there’s more…

    I was reading all these amazing reviews of Firefly 2, I though how is that so? I have one in my sock draw it was a useless let down, what is wrong with these dudes? I got into it on a forum with someone who mentioned my Firefly 2 was maybe blocked…No it wasnt I said, I cleaned it religiously with ISO.

    But it continued to bug me…It must be blocked inside I thought, so(and I DON’T reccomend this) I took the whole damn thing apart, I have the correct tools and workspace, I striped it down. Removed the screws, the battery door brace, the case(parts one and two) I unscrewed the heat coil retainer taking care not to lose the tiny rubber spacer, I removed the heat coil, then the bowl. Finally then I had the screen, it is wider than you can see when assembled, a bit bigger than a quarter, a metal disk with all the tiny vape holes in the middle.

    I washed and soaked this screen thouroughly in ISO and put the whole thing back together…The results were phenomenal, like a blind guy having bandages removed after sight surgery(okay exaggeration!). It was like a completely different Vape, it f**kin’ rocked my world, the draw resitance was not just improved, but it was PERFECT, I couldn’t believe it. The Crafty is now in my sock draw and the Firefly 2 goes everywhere, to think I would of been close to throwing it in the garbage before.

    Whats the point of all this…Well my advice if you love your Firefly 2 don’t do concentrates in it. If you hate it there is a good chance it is clogged. The manufacturer is trying to tick all the boxes but this is clearly a pitfall. If you do insist on having concentrates in it learn how to take it apart to clean the screen(terrible advice!)

    And for the haters don’t start screeching just yet!…The manufacturer STILL gets a black mark for this device regardless. A device you have to dismatle and risk destroying to clean properly is a partial fail.

    Anyway I hated and now love my Firely 2. If you hate yours everyone else is not a deluded fanboy jerk in on a scam as I thought, but there is probably a fault, clogging or otherwise.

  2. Phil
    January 20, 2017 at 9:43 am

    At the FF2 price range you might as well get a desktop vape

  3. Upset customer
    January 14, 2017 at 12:06 pm

    Do not buy this piece of junk! The crafty is better in terms of temp control (acually measured in degrees), consistency, clouds, and most importantly, draw resistance. I have no idea why they designed this with such terrible draw resistance, it can only cause health issues long term.

    The “Vape Critic” was obviously paid off for the false review. The device is terrible for the money paid. Do yourselves a huge favor and buy a Crafty. Will be much happier in the long run. I will never use the advice of the “vape critic” ever again.

    • Fuck this customer^
      January 15, 2017 at 8:04 am

      fuck you dude youre obviously paid off by crafty gtfo

    • Jessica Kenneson
      January 16, 2017 at 12:28 pm

      I feel like you are right. Crafty was awesome as my first vaporizer. But- adjusting the power tuning on the app quickly changed my firefly vaping experience. It made me love my firefly 100%.

    • Charlie
      January 18, 2017 at 9:02 am

      I have a crafty and firefly 2 – I never use the crafty now. Firefly vapor is smoother and prefer the materials used. The crafty is very user friendly (plug and play so to speak) where as the firefly has taken me about a month to really get the best out of it. In terms of the tuning app there seems to be some misunderstanding that it increases the temp in fact what it does is impact how quickly it gets to the desired temp. There is an interview with one of the founders and he talks about the idea that it is meant to be taking you from zero to desired temp so that you can enjoy all the different terpinoids etc. He talks about increasing it to 107% which means it hits the desired temp after 5 seconds as opposed to 8-10 seconds. Since realising this and following the other tips I have really enjoyed it. I have it set to 104% The link to the interview is fc combustion and really helped me to suss it out. It has surprised me that it has taken me so long to suss a vape and will still use my crafty when out and about with mates.

  4. steve
    January 6, 2017 at 12:19 am

    Hey Bud,
    Do you have any ideas as to what would be a safe adhesive to use to reattach the seal? It would be an easy fix if you repair it before it pull completely off. I’m thinking some type of high heat food grade adhesive.

  5. steve
    January 6, 2017 at 12:16 am

    I have had to use firefly customer service 2x now. When my first unit malfunctioned, I sent it back and in 10 days I had a new boxed unit. They let me keep the extra battery, concentrate screens, cleaning kit that came with the defective unit and that’s worth about $30. Not bad. Secondly my rubber gasket started peeling away like many, but in 5 days they shipped me a new lid. Unfortunately isopropel alcohol ruins the seal. Now I clean with a Q tip and be careful to keep any away from the seal.

    • Kirk
      January 11, 2017 at 3:00 pm

      To keep the lid clean I recommend a ceramic screen from Vaperbrothers: vaporbrothers.com/Screens-625-Ceramic-5Pcs-for-EZ-Change_ProductID_8014
      this works really well the seal on my lid by the bowl is a bit loose so to keep a tight seal I ocasionally press down on the lid a bit

  6. Charlie
    December 22, 2016 at 12:08 pm

    I ordered the firefly 2 and was very nervous given the mixed reviews! I have to say I am really pleased with it. Really well made, lovely smooth cool vapour and no issues. I also have a crafty and evo – this vapour is way smoother than both. It is probably worth stating that I don’t smoke period so only vape and do edibles – the vapour is less dense than my other vapes and I suspect if you are used to smoke you might find this less satisfying than the evo / crafty or some other vapes. The reports of hot units sounds like they have a defect as mine stays cool. Great reviews as always – keep up the good work!

  7. Curt
    December 15, 2016 at 9:38 am

    For my use (1 person, mostly in the house) this is a perfect vape… great flavor, smoothness, highly efficient,very easy to clean, mostly glass airpath,.. but it’s taken me 2 months to get the technique down 1. Coarse Grind helps a lot 2.Seating the lid..mate the front lip to the unit 3. make sure the mouthpiece is properly seated..
    Once you obtain a good seal (restricted airflow) you’ll know what it takes.. and after replacing the lid always test the seal by inhaling for a second before turning on the temp… The app is great with a huge temperature range possible…. Other portables I’ve owned.. MFLB, Arizer Solo (The FF2 far surpasses either) Desktop vapes Vriptech heat gun, Vriptech heat wand, supervapezilla, The original Vapexhale, and Vapexhale cloud EVO for 1 person I really love this vape

    • Curt
      December 15, 2016 at 10:02 am

      Yes the airflow is restricted but you just need to lightly inhale for 10 to 30 seconds…..If you find that hard to do perhaps you shouldn’t be vaping or smoking….

  8. Sam
    December 14, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    I’ve spent A BUNCH of time trying to get mine to work properly. After hours/days/weeks with their all but nonexistent customer service I finally got a return slip from them.
    Here are the problems I’ve noticed:
    -weird battery management. App shows 80% battery, once unit is engaged it goes to zero.
    -vapor production is terrible
    -can get to zero vapor production move material to Crafty and shit gets done!
    -only way to get good vapor production and ‘effects’ is to set the unit to high and ‘power tune’ it to 111% — this produces combustion NOT vaporization.
    Not a hater, just a burned (pun intended) customer.

    • Curt
      December 15, 2016 at 10:22 am

      If you don’t have a good tight seal, you’ll get very little or no vapor production… when I first got the FF2 I had to put it on high to get any vapor… while reading comments with people saying they were using the low or medium low setting and were quite happy… now I really like to start with a medium low setting and definitely get a good amount of vapor.

  9. robert
    December 14, 2016 at 6:08 pm

    I purchased my FF 2 in May. I think it is the biggest piece of junk you can buy for 329 dollars.

    While I agree that vapor quality is not really satifying, I’m more concerned with the shoddy manufacturing and buggy software.

    I’ve had my herb combust on low temp settings.
    I’ve had the unit not shut off, so I had to remove the battery
    I’ve had the unit not turn on, so I had to remove the battery and put it back in.

    And now, while charging in the cradle the unit blinks blue then turns a glowing red.

    Customer service is slow — the help support section is terrible.

    Firefly is more interested in marketing than providing patients with a good product.

    Very dissatisfied, I feel like a sucker.

    • Erik
      January 14, 2017 at 8:04 am

      Agreed.

  10. Watson
    December 13, 2016 at 12:39 pm

    I own a FF2 since it first came out in Europe – Love it!
    Your review is spot-on!!
    It is all about using it right.
    For better airflow i removed the filter in the mouthpiece.
    The second battery I do not need too often but when i do it is magic to have it. Also love cleaning it and the case :D
    Cant quite understand why you took it off your list. It deserves better.

    • Burned by Firefly Customer 'Service'
      January 14, 2017 at 8:13 am

      Worst customer service I have experienced in a very long time, if you call it that. The way they treated me with my FF1, I’ll never purchase from this company again. All advertising, no service. My guess is this has sometching to do with it being removed from the list. Too many complaints by people being burned. Good luck.

      • G
        January 20, 2017 at 3:12 pm

        I have found the FF group to be exceptional in their customer service. Always honored the warranty without question with quick replacements and follow up.

  11. Andy
    December 11, 2016 at 8:05 pm

    Is anyone experiencing this..
    Each time when the vape hasn’t been used for a day I’ll pick it up, heat it up and the red light starts blinking. Yes, my battery has at least three blue blinks for level.
    It does this maybe 5-6 times then stops and I’m able to vape normally?? Anyone know why this happens???

    • Bud
      December 12, 2016 at 1:59 pm

      Hey if you tap the other button 3 times it’ll blink a red light instead of a blue one, and it’s showing you what heat level you’re on by blinking the corresponding # of times (5 blinks would be HIGH heat, 6 blinks would be the concentrate setting). Sometimes you end up tapping it by accident just while you’re holding it.

      • Andy
        December 13, 2016 at 3:19 pm

        Hey Bud,

        I do understand how one button blinks blue for battery level and the other for heat setting. This is something different. I get ready to vape. Touch the buttons, green light blinks 2-3 times noting heat up then it flashes red 5-6 times and light goes out and unit stops heating. I repeat that cycle 3-5 times and then it fires normally.
        I don’t know if mine is defective??

        • Fuzz
          December 16, 2016 at 9:30 am

          Mine does this if I’ve left the unit somewhere cold, like my garage. Try warming it up in your hand or pocket for a few minutes before use – that solved the problem (for me).

          This vape has a steeper learning curve than say the Pax 2. It took me several weeks to figure out the best grind, temperature, and bowl size. I think the dryness and grind size of each particular herb variety makes it challenging. The vapor is definitely the best quality I’ve experienced in a portable vape.

          • Andy
            December 21, 2016 at 7:18 am

            Gotcha Fuzz. My vape is inside my house. Minimal temp inside is 60 degrees when I’m not home. That shouldn’t make the unit cold enough to malfunction.
            The battery life is shoddy as well. I regret spending this kind of cash on this vape for sure.
            Heck, my $90 flowermate or $100 airvape both work better than this wasted piece of metal.

  12. Daquon
    December 9, 2016 at 11:35 am

    This vape is amazing however there is a huge learning curve and i wouldn’t recommend this to a beginner because of that reason. also this vape is very noticeable so if vaping in public but thats not really a turn off because aside from the reasons stated the flavor is amazing and worth the learning curve and its so efficient as opposed to other vapes i own like the pax 2 i would say the flavor alone is worth buying.

  13. Bree
    December 1, 2016 at 12:20 pm

    I got the Firefly 2 when it first came out because of the awesome reviews. The price was more than I wanted to spend, but I was optimistic that it would be great. I usually use a bong or pipe, but wanted to switch to a vape for health reasons. I have to say that I am very disappointed in my purchase. First, it took me almost 2 weeks to figure out how to get a decent draw from the thing. It was very frustrating. Even when I did figure out how to use it, I found it wasn’t consistent. It seemed the stars all had to be aligned for it to work. Yes, it was probably user error, but I don’t think it should be so hard. Second, the battery sucks, lasts one, maybe two sessions. Not as long as it is listed. Third, cracked the glass cover by accident the first use. Careful, it is fragile. Fourth, you have to stir it while using to get a decent draw and you have to clean it after every use. Fifth, I had to stop using it all together because I got a rash on my mouth from the metal alloy after using it. I must have an allergy to one of the metals used. Sorry Firefly, but not digging your product. Waste of my money.

  14. Bufatwotwo
    December 1, 2016 at 7:23 am

    I’ve had my FF2 since late May. For the first few weeks, I was really frustrated with it because I couldn’t get a good draw without holding the cover down with my other hand, awkward at best. I contacted FF and they sent me a replacement cover for free, which I had in two days. What an improvement, but still not always great vapes. But with the new firmware, I am one happy camper. I’ve got four other vapers, but this is the one I reach for 90% of the time, because it tastes so good and because it is so efficient with my herb. When I bring it to parties, all the other folks with high-end vapers are jealous and when mostly use this ff2.

    My only real complaint is that you’ve got to have your phone or ipad along with you to change your settings. I spend a lot of time outdoors hiking, biking, skiing, etc., and to save weight I often leave my phone home which leaves me unable to change settings on the fly.

  15. JoeM
    November 28, 2016 at 7:35 pm

    I own all the top rated vapes and went with the Vape Critic’s original impressions of Firefly2 being the best vaporizer out there. And oh boy, was he not dead on! This thing is a beast, an amazing machine. It’s constructed really nicely and it does wonders with both herbs and concentrates. My only complaint is that when you use it with herbs, the bowl sometimes feels too small for group sessions. For group sessions, I’d recommend using concentrates. Overall though, Firefly2 is like a Porsche where the Pax2 and Crafty feel like a Honda truck…Very different experiences, and I like Porsche’s much better.

  16. Anonymous
    November 28, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    Where vape rating go

  17. Stephen
    November 20, 2016 at 3:29 am

    Vape quality is awesome but it takes some technique getting used to hitting it. The draw resistance is annoying 80% of the time no matter how I grind or how little or no matter how much I put in the bowl. My current unit is not charging the batteries and it is a replacement of a unit I dropped (they showed me compassion once but I fear it won’t happen twice) so I can’t use it but I’m going to try my luck with their warranty center soon.

  18. James Conwell
    November 16, 2016 at 6:56 pm

    Firefly 2 is a piece of crap. They, Firefly advertises the FF 2 can handle concentrate. It comes a two guarantee but they don’t stand by it. My FF2 was leaking out the bowl, is clotted. I used the concentrate pads and after 2 months use they can’t fix and is going to charge a restocking fee of 30 to 50%. DO NOT BUY A FF2 for concentrate. KANDY PENS HAVE A VSPORIZER MADE FOR CONCENTRATES AND IT IS MADE JUST FOR CONCENTRATES. I’m pissed. I’m getting a lawyer or may start a class action suite.

    • Chris
      January 20, 2017 at 12:19 pm

      I was you. Your screen is clogged with concntrate. Send it back and suck up the fee or get a steady handed friend(or your lawyer!) to dismantle it(SO RISKY VOID WARRANTY) and clean the screen and indeed I agree, don’t use a Firefly 2 for concentrates.

  19. Johnny Quest
    November 8, 2016 at 7:57 pm

    I experience very mixed results with this vape. Sometimes I get a decent hit of vapor but most of the time it produces very weak vapor. I saw one post that suggested saving the herb you have vaped in the Firefly 2 and then using it in a stronger vape.
    Seems like it would be better to just use the other vape. I used the same amount that I have been using in the Firefly but fired up my Plenty and oh my god what a difference. I thought I had built up some huge tolerance….but that wasn’t it. Nice looking, easy to clean and some cool features but the performance is just not there

  20. Vladmir Putin
    November 5, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    I have it 3 months, its great aside for …. The battery cover falling off periodically, Midsession the thing turns off and then you have to take the battery and put it back in… It gets as hot as a hot cup coffee when its working…. It looks like metal but its not… The lid is made of plastic with a rubber gasket, The rubber gasket get loose… The battery sucks.. The plastic mouthpiece is cheap, it takes forever to charge, its guaranteed you will have to swap batteries because the batteries are defective, FF will replace the batteries, of course shipping is not included, and The customer service doesn’t exist.

    Aside for that its a great vape…. Please don’t buy this piece of garbage.

    • Burned by Firefly Customer 'Service'
      January 14, 2017 at 8:20 am

      Exactly. Customer ‘Service’ is non-existent. They will take your money, but won’t answer/return calls made during business hours. Try e-mail? Infuriating, condescending, canned responses, no follow-up, waste of time. I don’the know how Firefly is still in business.

  21. dorkmatter
    November 2, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    I also bought the ff2 based on your review. I also own pax 1 and pax 2. I found the ff2 to be more of a challenge to learn, but even during the first week of hit and miss effectiveness I found the quality of the vapor to be far superior to either pax. After about a week I developed my breath control and loading technique. The firmware update improved it even more. It is working great.
    The negatives are it’s not very stealthy during use, having to stir the bowl and not much battery life. The positives are the strength of the vapor and the flavor, it’s really easy to clean up, plus the efficiency. My average monthly quantity of consumption has decreased around 30% vs either pax unit.
    I received good customer service from them in asking for a replacement battery and when ordering accessories. No problems encountered.

  22. Marv
    October 27, 2016 at 2:17 pm

    Not at all happy with my upgrade from FF1 to FF2. Draw resistance is at least 4 times that of the FF1, and it tastes/smells bad thanks to the disgusting packing foam rubber it ships with. All I could taste was purely what I put in the FF1, but I mostly just taste foam rubber in the FF2… was hoping it would basically be a FF1 with a reliable heating element.

    • Marv
      October 27, 2016 at 2:19 pm

      Still doesn’t taste as bad as Pax 2 though. But draw resistance is far worse.

  23. Emily
    October 25, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    Loved this unit until about a month of use. Cheap quality and terrible customer service. Also, it’s not pure convection..I bought it thinking it was due to reviews like this. Please correct it so as to not mislead other consumers. Not saying it was intentional, seeing as that is the marketing put out by the manufacturer, but it is incorrect. (Like the MFLB it’s conduction-metal bowl bottom-and convection).

  24. robobuddah
    October 22, 2016 at 10:36 am

    Hi bud recently purchased firefly 2 and for about the first hour I was freaking out because I couldn’t get a decent draw…Now a few days later I’m enjoying the finest vapor on the planet. It’s all technique…Once you master this, and its quite simple, it actually exceeds all expectations.

    • Reef
      January 14, 2017 at 12:04 pm

      No, the draw resistance makes this device one of the worst available convection units. It is awful, i got a refund for mine.

  25. LewkSkywalker
    October 17, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    Bud,

    I love your work. One thing I would like to know is what portable vaporizer do you use on a daily basis?(maybe over the past 6 months) Thanks Brotha.

    Stay Uppppp!

  26. steama
    October 17, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    I like how you have positioned the FF2 being that I have also noticed this vape can be a hit or miss depending on the individual. Another thing I find when using this vape that you have to operate it in a specific manner if you don’t know how to do this it could be disappointing. I happen to be one of those who appreciate the FF2.

    I only have one problem now. Your Davinci IQ review has restarted my VAS. Thanks alot Bud.

    • LewkSkywalker
      October 17, 2016 at 9:37 pm

      Glad to hear you are having success. I cannot decide whether or not to buy the FF2. There are so many negative reviews on the batteries. A lot of hit or miss cases. Do you have any experience with other portable vapes?

  27. Paul
    October 15, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    I posted a bad review in june (Anonymous says:
    June 2, 2016 at 6:08 pm).
    Today, I just love it. I couldn’t believe I could change my mind…
    Negative thing, I have to say it is a “technical” vape…
    But even if that’s sucks, I love the taste, smoothness. Now, I use my Crafty only when I am vaping with other People, in group.
    FF2 Medium Low Temperature is just perfect to me for medical use.
    Vapor quality is excellent. low drag 10 sec… amazing :-)

  28. Steven P
    October 13, 2016 at 4:49 am

    I’ve had the FF2 since May and I still love this vape.

    I have a feeling that most of these bad reviews are from people not using the vape the right way. I think the key aspects are NOT using a grinder but just using your fingers to tear up the flower into course bits and filling it full then lightly tamping it down so that the lid will fit over the oven. I’ve gotten good results by taking a long and moderate paced draw (around 20 seconds or more) this means you have to reactivate the heating element after the green light turns off

    • Sheila Rydell
      November 6, 2016 at 2:43 am

      Probably the best tip here. How do you do it tho? Just keep pressing?

      • Steven P
        December 24, 2016 at 8:00 pm

        Sorry, didn’t see your comment until now.

        Just take your fingers off of the buttons for a second and place them back on the buttons like normal, the green light should turn back on and you can continue to draw

  29. Raz_Newman
    October 6, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    Bud,

    It’s a shame you had to change your recommendation based on the negative review but you are a ‘Vape Critic’. A critic must give out the unbiased feedback regardless of the public pressure.

    I bought the FF2 solely on your recommendation and I don’t regret it a bit. I’m glad your through review steer me in the right direction.

    I love your reviews and would be looking forward for more. Upcoming Pax 3, Flowermate Swift pro (another convection vape), Davinci IQ etc. This is going to be a good winter.

    Keep up the good work and stay up :)

  30. Raz_Newman
    October 6, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    I bought my FF2 based on bud’s recommendation. Pre-ordered it on 5/16 and received it on 5/20.

    Yes there is a learning curve. A long steep learning curve especially if you are coming from smoking or your previous

    experience is limited to conduction vapes. FF2 is my third vape and I have previous experience with:
    1) Pax 2
    2) Crafty
    3) Flowermate
    4) Arizer EQ
    5) Volcano

    It took may over a few weeks to figure out the right technique. Here it goes:

    A) Don’t grind the herb fine. I don’t use a grinder anymore. I just break the flower into big chunks using the fingers only

    (kitchen sheers, scisccors or clippers also work).

    B) Fill the chamber to the rim but don’t pack it forcefully. Just fill it up.

    C) Put a screen on top. Pipe screens work fine (wire mesh is ok). Glass or ceramic works better as they don’t clog).

    D) Make sure the screen and lid are properly sealed.

    E) Set the temperature profile ‘high or medium-high’.

    F) Prime the unit for 5 sec before taking a draw. Hold both buttons and start drawing slowly. Not too fast, not too slow.
    Remember it’s a pure convection unit. The chamber is not heated directly but your toke pulling the hot air from heater to the

    chamber.

    Too fast draw = too much cold air in the chamber = no visible vapor
    Too slow draw = hot air cooling down enough before reaching the herb = weak vapor

    I just can’t emphasize enough. Long slow draw for 30 seconds then let both buttons go but keep sipping for anotuer 20-30

    seconds.

    This is the BEST vaporizer ever if you figure out how to use it properly. This is the only vaporizer i’m using these days

    others are just collecting dust.

    Negatives:
    Battery: They are using the same 7500mah batteries from the originial firefly. Yes they have changed the manufacturer but it

    would be good to have higher capacity li-ion batteries like 1500mah.

    Heat: The heater area (lower part) does get hot but it’s bearable.

    Mouthpiece: The screen was so flimsy, I lost it while cleaning the mouthpiece and didn’t even notice untill recently.

    Learning curve + mediocre battery = A personal vape but not for group sessions

    I just bought two extra batteries plus an external charger. FF should include a magnetic screen for the chamber and an

    external charger in the package. My FF2 is here to stay with me for a long time.

    • DrSnowMonkey
      December 14, 2016 at 3:42 pm

      I just recently purchased my FF2 and was wondering where in the world I can buy an external charger, Do you mind helpin a bro out and letting me know where u bought yours?

  31. Anonymous
    October 6, 2016 at 9:46 am

    How many firefly2. How many can Connect Bluetooth 2 your phone

    • Anonymous
      October 6, 2016 at 11:07 am

      I followed Vape critic video on up Firefly 2 it’s one of the Seven Wonders of the World amazing

  32. Bri
    October 3, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    So I noticed that a few months ago you had the Firefly2 in your top 3 portable vapes section. Now, it’s not even in your best portable picks at all. Did you notice something you didn’t like?
    let me know!

    • Bud
      October 4, 2016 at 3:13 pm

      Hey Bri I very recently made that change and I did it because I’ve been receiving mixed reviews from people who are buying it – most people like it but the number of complaints I’ve received is above average so I had to remove it from my top picks and I added a notice in the middle of my review.

      • Sfumato
        December 29, 2016 at 5:45 pm

        Hey Bud,

        I understand that you changed it to “protect” consumers because you were inundated with bad reviews.

        Question is, if you had not received the feedback how would/do YOU feel about it. Has your opinion changed after longer usage?

  33. Christopher
    October 2, 2016 at 5:49 pm

    Bob, has the manufacturer reps for the Firefly 2 given you any customer guidance on how to charge the newer batteries? As you know it was the real Achilles heel of the old device. I tried two of the first version before sending them back and ordering version 2, due any day. Should they be left in the external charger and vape for ready use or removed? Also, are you no longer recommending this vape as one of your top picks? Thanks much. Excellent review videos!

  34. HighGuy
    September 28, 2016 at 9:59 am

    I love this device. I have three new types of vape this year (FF2, GH and Crafty) and have been a long time Volcano user. The FF2 is by far my favorite overall. The FF2 provides the most enjoyable vaping experience I’ve had – it’s the smoothest, most potent, cool vapor I’ve ever taken into my lungs. I’ve noticed so many different flavors that I have never experienced before I used the Firefly 2.

    I really don’t understand some of these comments; it’s a souped-up heater with a cooling path. Draw slow and long and your material gets heated up. Very confused about these but Bud – this device changed my mind about portables; I never thought you could get the desktop experience in your pocket. Now I have it!

    Thanks so much for the recommendation!

  35. chris
    September 27, 2016 at 11:23 am

    I have had the firefly 2 now for a month, don’t waste your money. It is too much work, you must stir the herb every hit because of uneven cooking. Having to thoroughly clean it with alcohol every bowl and then if you’re lucky you might get a hit. Watch out for the death hit which fry’s your throat, occasionally it over heats and over cooks the herd and fry’s the herb. And if you have weak lungs forget it this thing is difficult to pull the air through definitely needing larger holes to get more air through it. And then the battery goes dead you can’t use it because the pipe is needed to charge it. Terrible design the charging cradle should have been designed to be able to charge the batteries separately. And if you’re a clean person, forget it this thing is very messy constantly spilling over finding burnt herb everywhere. Sorry, this is a lot of money for a pipe with this many issue’s.

  36. MisterWeed
    September 26, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    wow, I don’t understand all these comments. This thing works like magic. Does it get hot, yes it does, but nowhere hot enough to burn my hand. I’m not a cloud chaser, I care about the effects and what happens to my head, who cares if I see big clouds coming out, but if I take a recent hit, there they are…they clouds…
    Too bad about their customer service though, sad to see them lagging in helping people out!..

  37. Barack Obama
    September 25, 2016 at 11:32 pm

    Hi,

    I have tried to contact FF2 dozens of times. I spent $329.

    1- it is very awkward to hold.

    2- I burn my finger tips everytime. — Not from a hot oven, but a hot battery.

    3- It is a very weak vape.

    4- The battery below average, most of the time I need to switch batteries mid session, and then back to the app on my phone.

    5- The App is supposed to fix the problems with the FF2, It does slightly. But you need your phone and app open in order for it to work.

    6- This is not a TRUE Convection as advertised, Convection is forced air, The FF2, is lungs assisted.

    7- I am exhausted after 10 minutes because my lungs are trying to get something out of this vape.

    8- Plastic mouth piece. I paid for glass and metal.

    9- You can only charge 1 battery at a time.

    I have done everything, changed to different herbs, grind it better, pat it down, spread it out,, hold the buttons longer. It sux

  38. Natedogg
    September 16, 2016 at 3:20 am

    Quick question for you, does the firefly 2 itself get very hot while using?

  39. mike
    September 14, 2016 at 1:39 am

    Just getting used to FF2. It has a learning curve. I think for those of us who like as close to a smoking simulation as possible,PAx2 on high heat… ( thick and huge clouds), the unit is not the best way to go. It is too smooth, and doesnt give a satisfying cloud or fill the lungs like the pax2 seems too. I have managed to get a few good bowls out of it that were comparable to the pax2, but I feel like my effort is much greater with this device. Biggest problem..hot hot hot..this thing will burn my house down man. It gets hot after 1 or 2 bowls and it shuts down. Now for the reason I am keeping and sticking with it
    1. Go to concentrate temp with flower, and you are choking. I was loving that. It gets too hot too quick, but I got like 5/6 rips with a stir in the middle and it rocked me. Thats what I was Looking For!!!
    2. I hear the customer service Sux.
    3. Seems to be a more effective activator of key ingredients:)

  40. Elle B
    September 13, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    WARNING: I’ve had my Firefly 2 since July. It’s been my daily driver since Day 1. Love it!

    But… Just did the firmware upgrade over the weekend and it killed my device. It won’t charge. Won’t turn on. Even switched out the batteries. Still waiting to hear from Firefly to find out how to replace it.

    DON’T DO THE UPGRADE!

  41. JX
    September 12, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    I thoroughly regret my decision to purchase the Firefly 2. I blame myself for being dumb enough to buy into the hype and phony gushing reviews and now feel completely ripped off. I urge anyone reading this to save their money and buy something else. I completely wasted my $329.95 – please don’t do the same. The unit simply does not work and does not produce more than a tiny, very unsatisfying amount of vapor. The gasket does not seal properly, the charge indicator does not work, the batteries don’t last. It completely baffles me that so many reviewers are heaping such accolades on such a piece of junk. I am not going to pursue a warranty claim because Firefly will charge shipping both ways plus punish me with another $30 charge if they decide the unit is not defective. I simply can’t imagine what they could possible do to make this mess of a product work any better. I’m just going to cut my losses, not throw good money after bad, and try to make a better decision next time. If fact, I plan on taking my unit out back and smashing it into a million pieces with my sledgehammer. I suspect that will be the one and only satisfying hit I get out this thing. I’m disappointed with the unit and even more disappointed that I can no longer trust reviews on sites like this one. FYI, I purchased the unit from VapeWorld and thus far they have completely ignored my emails on the subject, so I’m not exactly thrilled with them either.

  42. Mike
    September 11, 2016 at 9:55 am

    Hey Bud

    I just got a FF2 and I have a Pax2. I know there is a difference in the grind coarse, but I cant seem to get it right. I am not getting anywhere close to the vapor production from the ff2 that i get from the pax2. Is there a method or a specific grinder that works best? My american made grinder works awesome for pax, and i feel like it worked a little better than my hand pulled method for the ff2. Either way I am disappointed to say the least. I like the flavor, but Im all about the plume. With Pax I can mouth pull like a cigar and get huge plumes then draw them deep with a good breath, and with ff2 i am taking long slower draws from like 15-20 seconds or more and im not getting dense vape…i have setting on high for dry herbs…sorry this was so lengthy. You are really good at what you are doing. Wish I would have done it 5 years ago

    Mike D

  43. Firefly 2
    September 9, 2016 at 5:18 pm

    My hands are tired from stirring it and shaking it, my lungs are tired because of the draw resistance, my phone is out of battery and I cant use the Firefly 2 with the app, which means that all of the fix’s for the bugs I will not be able to use until my phone is charged the app is open and my phone nearby. $329 plus tax. My Arizer Air/Solo, are much better and I think still the best vape out there.

  44. Vape Rx
    September 8, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    I wish I had a better report.

    The Firefly 2 was of interest to me because of the healthy materials that it is made of. The only others in that class are the Arizer products, and the MFLB.

    The Firefly 2 is weak.

    You have to use it on high, to get medium output.

    You need to open your app on your phone in order for the unit to work at peak strength.

    When you do have the app, make sure get the firmware update, so that it will fix the bugs the unit is shipped with.

    In order to make my Firefly 2 work, you have to (be exact) leave room in the oven, wait until the orange ring turns bright, then draw 15 seconds, hold in for 15 and you will have vapor, mostly from your breathe.

    The battery doesn’t last an entire session, at times.

    You have to stir it well, every 5 draws (annoying).

    The battery gets very hot to the point that you have to put it down.

    For all the bother its hard to believe I waited for this vape and spent a lot of money on it.

    I started using my Arizer Air/Solo. Load and put at desired temp, and it keeps going. The battery will last a very long time (1 Hour, and pass through charging on the Air, as well as replaceable battery.) The Air/Solo, MFLB, are much cheaper and do a better job and are effortless/more enjoyable.

    Buyer Beware.

    I wish I had a better report.

  45. Amund
    September 7, 2016 at 9:25 am

    I just got a firmware update for my Firefly 2

    • Vape Rx
      September 8, 2016 at 10:58 pm

      It still sux.

  46. Audrey
    September 5, 2016 at 12:21 pm

    I used mine carefully and appropriately and the first one stopped working within a week! The replacement they sent, after slow and redundant communication, only lasted a few weeks before problems with the power/battery began to occur with the new device. No refunds. I’m curious to see if your review changes over time or if others share similar problems.

    • Vape Rx
      September 8, 2016 at 10:59 pm

      It Sux.

  47. josh
    September 4, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    ff2 sucks! over heats no battery life, very hard to draw you better have big lungs! all in all shit product to with the money!

    • Vape Rx
      September 8, 2016 at 11:00 pm

      It sux.

  48. You Have Just Been Vaporized
    September 4, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    This is the best portable vape. Period.

    I eliminate ANY vaporizer made with plastic, Rubber and other substances that cause cancer. Although very well rated because of the toxic materials I eliminate, Crafty, Mighty, Plenty, Volcano, Pax, and other made of toxic materials. The taste of melting plastic not only tastes bad is toxic.

    The only ones left is the Arizer Solo, Arizer Air and the Magic Flight Launch Box. The Arizer Air and Solo are so similar in quality to the Firefly 2. The convection oven is an upgrade over most conventional oven vapes. But, in the case of Arizer Air and the Arizer Solo, their conventional oven is the best of any vape. So since its such a high quality conventional oven. What can I say the Launch Box will always be great.

    I have both the Arizer Vapes and the Magic Flight. I use my desktop vape(Arizer Extreme Q –I got rid of my volcano!(plastic). I am going to the Firefly 2. But thats because its brand new. If I really want to have a strong affect, The Arizer vapes and the launch box are stronger. The Firefly 2, because not as strong has smoother taste.

    If you got the Arizer Air instead of this vape, you aren’t missing anything. It is close though.

    You Have Just Been Vaporized

  49. Jack
    September 1, 2016 at 8:47 am

    There is no harshness or coughing even at the highest heat level. The Vape passes through the glass which cools it.

    • Jack
      September 1, 2016 at 8:54 am

      I will still use my MFLB, Arizer Solo/Air and Extreme Q just for a variety, but the Firefly 2 is better than any of the units listed above. Having more than one good vape is a good way of experiencing enjoying your vaped herbs. I have learned NO WELL MARKETED PALSTIC VAPES! I have officially disposed of my Volcano Classic, MIghty and trying to dump my plenty. Glass, Wood and Metal taste better, stronger, that toxic smell and taste of plastic does not exist.

    • Vape Rx
      September 8, 2016 at 11:02 pm

      There is no harshness because its a weakling. The power issues are addressed with the new firmware. But even then there are still major issues, and you need to load the app every time. It Sux.

  50. Dan
    September 1, 2016 at 1:39 am

    I must say amongst the other things that make this the best portable vape, its the best in vape quality. There is no harshness to make you cough even on the highest setting.

  51. Doug
    August 31, 2016 at 1:45 am

    Day 12.

    The Great – No Plastics all glass and metal. The clear glass oven window, Even on the highest setting there is no harsh vapor, its very smooth I don’t cough at all. The Dock is very cool. Easy to clean and every time its cleaned its brand new. It is very efficient with my herbs, and the power of this vape. I strongly recommend taking it slow with this vape, it is very powerful on the same level as a good desktop unit.

    The Not So Great, Switching batteries mid session, Only one mouthpiece, I don’t like that I have to use the app on my phone to get all of the features of the vape.

    This vape is in its own class now, the only one close is the Arizer Solo / Air, or the MFLB. The Firefly 2 has the convection oven technology which moves it to be the best portable vape. I hope that a better battery comes out, and not have to wait for the next Firefly to get the battery situation better.

  52. Doctor Vape
    August 26, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    I give the Firefly 2 a 9.8 (Glass and Scientific grade metal). I got it last Friday. I have used it everyday. It is a great vape. The metal and glass build, the glass window, the flavor, very powerful, the dock, easy to clean and when cleaned its like brand new every time, no filters to clean or replace, it comes with 2 batteries a cleaning kit, the unboxing is top rate, the warranty is great, the app is a very good feature, the size is very good, excellent portability and the convection oven and dynamic heating is like no other vaporizer very stealth.

    The batteries do have to be changed sometimes in midst of a long session. This would be a major negative but the Firefly 2 does come with 2 batteries. It can be awkward to hold when touching both sense buttons. This would also be a major negative, but it can be changed via the app, and its not that difficult of a hurdle to get used to. The downside to the app is it needs to be reconnected each time, or it will be set to factory settings. I find this annoying because I need to keep my phone close.

    I am retiring some great vapes in favor of the Firefly 2, My Magic Flight (9.6), My Arizer Air (9.6), and My Arizer Solo. I will still use my Arizer Extreme Q Desktop unit, but not as much the Firefly 2 is an extremely powerful device. I would also like to warn you to take it slow while getting used to your Firefly 2, it is a very powerful vaporizer.

    I have learned via the vapes I have purchased that, although Bud gives top tier reviews for plastic vapes like the Volcano, Plenty, Mighty, Crafty, Pax, and others made with plastic. I have learned that there is a major taste difference, and the taste from these plastic vapes, is coming from the plastic and rubber washers. This is something that has been ignored by Bud and many other critics.

    I would like to say I am on a crusade to make my fellow Vapers aware the plastic vapes are marketed extremely well, the initial results are great, but the long term results go south pretty quickly.

    The Firefly for the most part will take the place of my Solo (Metal and Glass), Air (Metal and Glass), Magic Flight (Wood, Metal Acrylic) and my desktop The Arizer Extreme Q (Glass and Glass!) desktop unit. Please stay away from the highly rated and marketed vapes made of plastic and rubber, its toxic. The performance might be super duper but plastic and rubber when heated and inhaled into your lungs cant be a good thing. Glass and Metal is pure vaping.

    — Doctor Vape

  53. Buddy
    August 25, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    Day 7. Easiest to clean. Quality is of desktop quality and strength. I wish the battery lasting longer, but it comes with a spare. I also wish there was more than one mouthpiece. A glass one would be even nicer. I love the dock, the glass window on top (so cool to watch the process) and it gets more more ripped than the volcano with less herbs.

  54. Gene Kay
    August 24, 2016 at 8:51 pm

    Firefly 2 is the worst vape I have ever used. Where to even start? For one, there are no returns, so make sure you want one. Second, when I buy a vape, I explicitly do this because I don’t want to use a bowl. Why then would I want to stir the crap half way between uses? That kills the entire point of vaping. Third, the quality just isn’t good and it forces you to use the app, which doesn’t connect half the time. Do you use these vapes once then review? I recommend using one for at least a month before giving a review. This should be a 76/100 at best. Worst and most expensive vape ever..

    • Gene Kay
      August 24, 2016 at 8:52 pm

      Oh yeah, and I forgot to add, good luck cleaning your FF2 after a year or so of use. The whole unit is one solid piece, so once it gets clogged, it’s over..oh yeah, and there’s no returns as I said….horrible

      • Gene Kay
        August 24, 2016 at 8:54 pm

        And the heating, forgot that too! I could on and on. It burnt my fingers on every try. If you start to get a good pull the unit will inevitably start overheating to the point you need gloves lolllll

        • Vape Rx
          September 8, 2016 at 11:03 pm

          I agree. Exact same thing on my FF2.

  55. Radek
    August 22, 2016 at 9:39 am

    Hi,
    I have completely different opinion about this vaporizer.
    I sold my Crafty because there were so many reviews how excellent it is.
    And so finally I got my Firefly 2.
    But…:)
    Absolutely the biggest problem here is draw resistance. I feel like getting to die cause of choking while pulling.
    I had never such a problem, in MFLB, Crafty, Ascent and other similar.
    To be honest, the flavour is good but only at the beginning.
    In my ideal Crafty the only problem was plastic vapor path when going on with higher temperatures and longer use so you feel something plastic in taste (battery could also be better but you can use powerbank if needed).
    The unit looks nice but that is not most important.
    The loading of battery is also a issue. You can not load them separatly but only in the vape.
    So please have ths in your mind before buying.
    Greetings for You master;)

    • Vape Rx
      September 8, 2016 at 11:03 pm

      It sux.

  56. Aliyah Dwyer
    August 21, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    Day 3 – This is like Hannukah in August foe me.
    I love the vape,

    because it is as powerful as any vape I have tried, desktop or portable.

    because its very rare to see your flowers while vaping.

    because the workman ship and material are perfect, and lack the unhealthy Toxins which comprise this vapes competition.

    because I dont need my desktop units anymore, its so much easier just having this unit, my Magic Flight and Extreme Q. I don’t need those but they were so good for so long. Not like cheap plastic marketing stars. The legendary Arizer Solo and Air , Arizer Exteme and the Magic Flight Launch Box, have finally been out done, because of the Dynamic Convection Oven. — (Salute to those vapes) because the new generation will be more more advanced. It will be interesting to see how the other big companies counter. Just stay away from the well marketed, Storz & Bickel, Pax – They appear to be good for your health but they use hardened plastic which is the equivalent to a 10 ply garbage can and a shiny sticker. Your lungs deserve glass and metal.

  57. Aliyah Dwyer
    August 21, 2016 at 5:12 am

    All new vapes will be going towards the convection oven, this is one of the first and probably the entire next generation is going that way. It will be interesting to see what other companies will be doing with Convection Oven technology.

  58. Brewsky Bruce
    August 20, 2016 at 6:46 pm

    You are right on the money once again. I would add… I just got it and

    The Glass Heating Chamber is terrific, the only other ones who have that is the Arizer Solo, Arizer Aire, Arizer Extreme Q and The Magic Flight. Those are like the Holy Grail of Vaporizers.

    All Glass and Metal — Don’t buy the ones made of hardened plastic, and have terrific marketing but are not that safe RE: Pax, All of the Storz & Bickel Units, Davinci, Etc… Hardened Plastic is equivalent to a 10 ply garbage bag. Do you want to inhale that?

    The Dock is very cool, you just put it down on Dock whenever not in use. Thats the best charging system I have seen of any vape. Super Cool.

    I find the performance to be no different than my desktop units. I don’t see my self using Desktop units anymore with this Vape, its as good as any desktop.

    Its incredibly efficient, and that efficiency packs a punch to using 50% herb and double the output. Its a Combo of the Magic Flight, Arizer Air with convection!

    • Gene Kay
      August 24, 2016 at 8:55 pm

      You’re a moron, the Da Vinci Ascent is the only unit with an all -glass path. The firefly has a plastic Triton Dupont mouthpiece on the end. Are you all this dumb?

      • Vape Rx
        September 8, 2016 at 11:04 pm

        Your right. I agree it sux.

  59. Bill
    August 20, 2016 at 10:25 am

    The Firefly2 is, unfortunately, the most disappointing vaporizer I’ve ever used.

    All this talk about how great the vapor tastes, and that it is better than a desktop vape, is completely wrong. The flavor is on par with that of an $80 portable. The flavor has a metallic taste to it, which is a common failing in stainless steel bowl portables. Flowers vape unevenly. If you are considering a Firefly2 because you think you’re going to get the flavor you’d get from a Silver Surfer or Vapor Brothers, think again. Even on the low setting, flavor is severely lacking.

    Construction is hit or miss. The body itself is solid. The mouthpiece easily detaches and it will likely pop off when you’re passing it around to friends. The bowl is also poorly designed. Pieces of flower will get stuck in a slim groove where air passes, and it is impossible to get it completely clean.

    If you’re going to spend $330 for vape, it better be on point. The Firefly2 is not. Don’t drink the kool-aid and save your cash people.

    • Aliyah Dwyer
      August 21, 2016 at 10:15 pm

      The best vape. Period. Its so easy to get brand spanking new clean. Just wipe with a wet cloth and thats it. Shiny and new. Its convection with laser sized holes for the air to pass through. The effect is the same as any desktop unit. This is one of the first Dynamic Convection Oven Technology, to come out, it could be the next generation of vapes in 2016 will follow the trend, but for right now there is no competition. Convection, Glass and Metal. It doesn’t get better than this… yet. The only issue is that The Firefly 2 is on back order at stores. The more they get in the more they sell. The website also has orders backed up. I have heard nothing about defects.

  60. brad12
    August 20, 2016 at 2:52 am

    I just got my FF2 in today. I watched all your videos and comparisons. I am getting married, and we are going on 3 week road trip. So we needed something discreet. Neither of us use vapes. this is first one. we use glass in general. that said. The firefly gets hot, and I’m not getting great production on highest setting. I even use coarse ground as recommended. Any other suggestions? just starting to feel like i should go with pax. and is the heat of device supposed to be that hot?

    • Aliyah Dwyer
      August 21, 2016 at 10:18 pm

      It gets hot on the end. Its supposed to. Just move your hand. Make sure your mouthpiece is snapped in. Take it off and snap it back in, that may be your reason. Hopefully you get the most out of the best.

  61. Miguel
    August 16, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    Would you do a trade for a firefly 2 if someone offered you it for a crafty?

    Trying to make a decision and don’t know which one to pick.

    Help!

    • Aliyah Dwyer
      August 21, 2016 at 10:20 pm

      No Way, Why would anyone want to vape with a product that is made of plastic and the toxins that come along with it, when it gets hot ?

    • Aliyah Dwyer
      August 23, 2016 at 7:01 pm

      Forget the Crafty. The Firefly 2 is better than any desktop vaporizer. Period.

  62. David Stevens
    August 8, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    In concept, I love my new Firefly 2, although no matter how I grind it or simply crash it into the device… I only get one puff of vape. I’ve watched all the videos and tried all the techniques. If there is no vape am I still ingesting herb?

    • Aliyah Dwyer
      August 21, 2016 at 10:22 pm

      Not all vape draws result in a cloud, but just as much vapor just not in cloud form. It may not feel like your hitting because its invisible at time, but trust me you are.

  63. Any other vape
    August 6, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    Got my Firefly 2 in, and have to say it’s kind of disappointing. The battery compartment lid easily slides around/off to start. Trying to snap it back on isn’t intuitive and usually ends up crooked. The batteries must be charged when in the unit, on a docking station with no other option to charge. The vapor density is abysmal. All of the other vapes I’ve used, even the MFLB, produce better hits than this. The battery life is extremely short, about one bowls worth. The charge time is much more than 45 minutes, even with a higher powered outlet as recommended in their online manual.

    I so wanted this to be a good vape. I wanted something not for sessions, but for quick hits. But it just has so little flavor and power (even under it’s high setting) that it’s an underwhelming experience. No matter the grind, amount used, draw length or how hard you pull… it’s just poor.

    Highly recommend against getting this.

  64. Sweetie
    August 4, 2016 at 1:05 am

    I’m debating between the Firefly 2, Arizer Solo or Arizer Air. I don’t need to be very portable, as long as I can bring it to the balcony :)
    I’ve been a bong smoker for many years and like that the Firefly 2 is similar to a bong/bowl, but have read great things about the Arizer vapes (not sure how they compare to a bowl though).
    Any advice would be great!

    • Bill
      August 20, 2016 at 10:30 am

      If don’t care about super portability and all you need is to get to a balcony, then I recommend getting a small extension cord and sticking with a desktop like a Silver Surfer or Vapor Brothers. Your taste buds will thank you.

    • Aliyah Dwyer
      August 21, 2016 at 10:29 pm

      The Arizer Solo, Air, Extreme Q and the Magic Flight are the best of the convention ovens. The taste purity, power and build quality. The firefly is of the same but with the latest Dynamic Convection oven. The Fiefly has exceeded my high expectations. But you will never be dissapointed with the Arizer Products or Magic Flight.

    • Aliyah Dwyer
      August 23, 2016 at 6:54 pm

      I love the Air and Solo. I am interested to see if Arizer comes out with a convection oven vape. The firefly 2 like the Arizer Vapes is made of glass and metal but the convection oven is like turbo boost for a vape. The Firefly 2 is better than any vape. Especially those that are made of plastic.

  65. yari
    August 3, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    It has the display for the temperature, or works like the classic pen g???

    • Bill
      August 20, 2016 at 10:59 am

      Nope. To view and change the temp, you are forced to use a phone app. If you don’t have the app, you’re stuck.

  66. Will
    August 2, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    I pulled the trigger and ordered one because of your review. I just hope it gets here soon. Keep up the good work man!

  67. Aliyah Dwyer
    August 2, 2016 at 3:01 am

    I would love to get my greedy paws on this bad boy. I believe, that convection oven vaporizers are in a different, category of portable vaporizer. Convection oven based vaporizers assist with the inhalation process, making it stronger and an easier experience. I would say convection oven based vaporizers are at least 50% more potent and efficient than conventional based ovens. All of the new technology is headed towards convectional oven. Convectional oven technology is what powers the Volcano, Plenty, Crafty, Mighty and most desktop Vapes. With portable Vapes the trend is rolling out(pun), these are going to be the best vapes.

  68. Cisco
    July 28, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    How do you think the firefly 2 compares to the volcano in terms of vapor quality/strength/effects?

    I have been a daily combustion smoker for 15 years (heavyish user), mostly smoking from my C2 ratchet/showerhead bong. I love my bong, but I have tried/bought many vaporizers because I am concerned about the health benefits. Sadly, I have never used a vaporizer that actually left me satisfied (an intense stoned like combustion!), except for the Volcano.

    I just want to make sure I dont waste $300 on the firefly 2 just to find out that it does not satisfy me, and I’m left smoking my bong again. I would buy the volcano or plenty, but i need something way more portable and way less conspicuous than those. Please help!

  69. FijiDiver
    July 26, 2016 at 5:30 pm

    Buyer beware in dealing with Firefly. This is clearly a company that struggles with quality and operational efficiency. I’ve purchased both the original Firefly (2 years ago) and the Firefly 2 (last month). Both were delivered in an unusable condition and in both cases, the customer support was severely lacking.

    Original Firefly: delivered with a battery that, when fully charged, could not be used for more than 3-4 draws. Did the company send a new unit? No. They put me in the warranty queue and delivered a functional battery in 6 weeks. Unacceptable.

    Firefly 2: despite my experience with the first one, I rolled the dice on the new Firefly. Again, the unit was delivered in an unstable condition. The battery charger unit did not charge at all. No lights, nada. Upon contacting Firefly, I was again sent to the back of the warranty queue. no exchange permitted. Since I didn’t want to wait another 6 weeks, I simply gave up and returned the item.

    I have zero trust in this company anymore. It’s a shame because I’m sure this unit works well when it’s actually built correctly but I cannot award this kind of company with my business.

  70. Dean-OG
    July 16, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    PAX2 VS FIREFLY2

    I’ll do my best to keep this fairly brief and will use some of the Bud’s criteria found here: https://www.vapecritic.com/ratings/

    Ease of use:
    For first time users I’d say it’s pretty even really.
    For a daily driver which you are going to take with you the PAX2 wins hands down. You can load it up and put it in your pocket. The Firefly2 is much larger and holds a lot less material. In addition when you take it out of your pocket be sure to check the battery compartment door as it comes off constantly. The 2 button Not good.

    Performance:
    I don’t think the firefly2 gives half the level of vapor as the PAX2 does and the battery life is terrible. The reason they give you the extra battery is that without one customers would be very disappointed with the battery life – which makes you have to take something additional with you. I haven’t tested it yet but I think a fully charged PAX2 will have more battery life than both the Firefly2 batteries combined.

    Vapor Quality:
    It takes sooooo much work to get decent vapor from the FF2 and to do so you have to turn it up – with the PAX2 I get better vapor at the lowest heat setting than from the FF2 at the higher heat settings.

    Build Quality:
    Hands down the PAX2 feels more solid. The Firefly2 feels plastic like (and to me the taste is very plastic like). The battery door constantly comes undone and it doesn’t go on perfectly every time. I had the misfortune of a man overboard event with a PAX2 in my pocket – no issues whatsoever after being fully submerged, If that was the FF2 I highly doubt it would’ve survived. Just sayin….

    Power Supply:
    Very short life on the FF2 and if you use it away from home you need to deal with carrying the extra battery and the larger unit. PAX2 wins for me no doubt. 10 year warranty also includes the battery on the PAX2.

    Portable or desktop:
    For me, this is a desktop unit. Way big for a pocket carried device along with cell phone, keys and wallet – the PAX2 is far more portable. And due to the short battery life it’s a desktop unit (for me).

    Efficiency:
    It’s pretty close – I may give this one to the FF2 since you load less. If you are looking for a more extended session though you will have to repack the FF2 3x to just once with the PAX2.

    Reliability:
    The FF2 is new to me so it’s hard to rate reliability – I can tell you that the PAX2 has been very reliable for me. Also – the PAX2 customer service team is WAY more responsive if you ever do have any issues. I wrote simply asking for a shipping date on my FF2 order and it took days to get back to me. PAX2 customer service is so much faster in response time and response quality. Just sayin….

    Cleanliness:
    I prefer the PAX2 – the FF2 gets dirty fast and needs cleaning at almost every session. You can go at least 4x longer between cleanings with the PAX2.

    Maintenance:
    Constant cleaning with the FF2 – cleaning is maintenance. How come Bud gave it an A? It needs constant maintenance and we have no idea how long parts will last. The PAX2 is pretty bulletproof.

    Elegance:
    It’s elegant for sure – but the design to me is questionable. Again – the battery lid coming off in my pocket is pretty annoying and far from elegant – the glow in the ‘bowl’ is elegant, yes. But – it’s like a pipe – really not forward looking like the PAX2 design. It functions like a pipe, looks like a pipe.. Anyhow – it feels bulky elegant.

    Price:
    It’s not as good a unit in my opinion as the PAX2 and it’s considerably more expensive.

    Personal opinion:
    I had higher expectations of this unit – I use my PAX2 much more often and to a much higher level of satisfaction. The FF2 is not all I thought it would be.

    • Aliyah Dwyer
      August 21, 2016 at 10:37 pm

      You must work for Pax. Because I have both. I don’t like units that use plastic and rubber that are toxic especially when heated at high levels and inhaled into my lungs. The Pax is just a marketing scheme. The Firefly 2 will sell itself, look at the build quality glass and metal. The Pax has a convention oven on the bottom of the unit which needs you to draw upwards through a small straw. That same straw is needs to be lubricated with some kind of extremely unhealthy plutonium jelly. I was psyched to get the Pax 2 but it sux.

  71. Corey
    July 13, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    OK, sitting in front of an unopened firefly2, contemplating returning it because I am seeing a lot of mixed reviews. Question, is the firefly2 really such a hassle to use? Should I return it and go with the crafty?

  72. Noe Felix
    June 21, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    Hey bro got mine last May you know what the only level I use is the concentrate level and I don’t even smoke wax. It’s excellent in your flower and it gives you 4 monster clouds and that’s all you need! Believe me no combustion, I do not know why they’re sayin that. Anyways folks try it.

  73. Dragonfly
    June 18, 2016 at 12:11 pm

    I need a portable way to use concentrates. I just ordered the Firefly 2 for dry herb. But it can do concentrates too. I’m considering getting a pen like the gravity, Aurora, or Orb 3. In your opinion does the firefly 2 match or beat those pens in terms of flavor and vape quality?Also efficiency of amount used vs getting more medicated. Need to know if firefly is all I need or is a pen so much better that I need to get one also?

    • Milo Bloom
      June 19, 2016 at 12:06 am

      I’ve tried oil in mine and it does produce an amazing amount of vapor from a couple drops. I don’t know how it compares to pens but I was impressed by that and by the smoothness and coolness of the vapor.

      The down side is that on the “Concentrates” setting the battery life is really terrible. You’ll want to have your extra battery handy.

  74. Michael
    June 16, 2016 at 8:09 am

    Hey there! I greatly appreciate your reviews and helpful information. I just got a Firefly 2 yesterday and still familiarizing myself with the unit. Have been using the Arizer Air since Novermber of last year with great results (aside from portability). In fact I feel like I can get a lot more draws of vapor using it compared to the new device. Something I’ve noticed with the Firefly 2 right off the bat is that the device gets pretty hot after only a few draws. Really hot…..I’ve also noticed the battery level is not correct always saying 100%. I haven’t really heard much about other units getting super hot so wasn’t sure if that’s normal.

    • Jake
      August 26, 2016 at 3:29 am

      Mine gets extremely hot as well. Like i cant hold it because its so hot. But i am displeased with the firefly 2 in general. Worst vape purchase Ive made so far. The firefly 1 works way better. And the firefly customer service is a joke. I had to jump through hoops to get them to allow me to send it back to them and then they make that process difficult. Very dissapointed with this product.

  75. HappinessPie
    June 12, 2016 at 3:23 am

    This is the BEST vape I’ve ever owned or used. I love the on-demand heating, as I normally enjoy just a couple tokes at a time. The vapor quality really is right up there next to the Volcano… maybe better?! Of course, it does have a very specific use; which is for smaller, personal sessions. I do have a couple points that I hope the, so far excellent in my experience, customer care team can address:

    1. We need to be able to change the temperature on the unit without the app! The app is great, but a special pattern of taps should allow us to change the temperature for situations like camping, dead phone battery, lost phone, etc.; especially since one of the biggest selling point on this is its ability to produce excellent vapor with both flower and concentrate. Something like: LRLLRRLLLRRR, L Up or R Down with LED feedback, then LLLRRR to exit. This should be a cinch to program, fairly easy to remember, but complicated enough to prevent random access.

    2. The battery indicator both on device and on the app need fixing. I’m hoping this is on the software/firmware side and not due to a faulty sensor design.

    3. The next version must have on-board USB charging and throughput (whichever version, probably micro, is most available at the time). I understand why this was kept out this round, likely due to space concerns, but battery size should allow for it in a couple years.

    Kudos Firefly 2 design team! Please respond if/when you can implement these fixes and really just put that last polish on this most excellent vape.

    Cheers,
    HP

  76. Ronni
    June 8, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    Does Firefly allow resellers to discount??

    • Milo Bloom
      June 10, 2016 at 9:56 pm

      A reseller discounting it doesn’t affect Firefly’s profit. That’s a cost for the reseller.

      Regardless, Firefly makes more money per unit selling directly to customers than selling to retailers.

  77. Milo Bloom
    June 1, 2016 at 2:20 am

    I pre-ordered a FF2 (in black) on 5/29 – the Sunday before Memorial Day. The site banner said pre-orders were shipping in June and the checkout page said Spring, so I figured I’d be waiting a while.

    Surprisingly, my order shipped 5/31 – the next business day. I got free shipping (Fedex Home Delivery), which will get it to me on Thursday.

    I’m pretty amazed. I wonder if they’re delaying orders to resellers to get more direct sales or something.

    Anyway, I’m excited to get it.

    • Milo Bloom
      June 5, 2016 at 8:22 pm

      So I got my Firefly and finally got a chance to try it out. I also have a Flowermate 5.0S that I like but the vapor is noticeably cooler and smoother from the Firefly, even to a newbie like me.

      One weird thing. When I press the two buttons for warmup, usually the green light flashes until it’s ready. But sometimes if I’ve set it down for an hour, the green light goes immediately solid even though the vape is cold. If I take a pull, I don’t get vapor. Shouldn’t the light flash?

      Anyone else run into that?

      • Anonymous
        June 7, 2016 at 10:15 pm

        From user manual:
        Blinking Green: Firefly2 is heating.
        Solid Green: Firefly2 is ready to use.
        Blinking Blue: While on dock: Battery is charging.
        Solid Blue: Battery is charged.
        Blinking Red: Battery is low and needs charging.
        Solid Red: Firefly2 needs to cool down for a few minutes

        • Anonymous
          June 7, 2016 at 10:48 pm

          Also….I am using mine for the first time tonight and noticed some variation of what you are explaining….but I am getting nice vapor production…..the experience is phenomenal and find the vape critics review on par with my experience thus far….wow…what a great first impression. Love the glow….feels like a vapor pipe. Hope the firefly is working out well for you. Farewell.

        • Milo Bloom
          June 10, 2016 at 9:49 pm

          Thanks, but it shouldn’t show an immediate solid green “ready to use” light when it’s stone-cold.

          I think what’s happening is that the FF2 goes to sleep and holding both buttons just wakes it up. If I let them go and press them again, I get the expected flashing green light and preheating.

  78. Anonymous
    May 30, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    I love your reviews and count on them to make educated decisions. Will you be reviewing the Grasshopper or Grenco G Pen Elite anytime soon? Been hearing great things. Thank you!!

  79. Sherry
    May 28, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    Thanks for the awesome and thorough reviews. I just bought the FireFly2 through your link so make sure you get your credit!

  80. Ewhynot
    May 26, 2016 at 9:47 am

    Hello,
    Sick review man, I was wondering; Do you know what the price tag will be in CAD? I’ve been searching everywhere with no luck.

  81. Elizabeth Yuki
    May 26, 2016 at 2:14 am

    I’m curious what there is to gain from a desktop vape that these higher end portables don’t provide (unless you are entertaining a group)?

    • Flipz
      June 12, 2016 at 12:12 pm

      Desktop vapes for the most part just are able to give much bigger vape clouds if needed. Also it depends on whether you plan to use it on the go often or mostly at home. If at home, a desktop is good since you just plug it in not having to worry about batteries or any of that.

      It’s not a matter of which is better but more of which is more suited for your lifestyle.

  82. Jason
    May 24, 2016 at 2:21 pm

    I am highly dissatisfied with my Firefly 2. Vapor is weak and it is way to finicky with the grind and draw of it. My battery doesn’t last very long at all, and I seem to be going through more product.

    • Flipz
      May 24, 2016 at 6:22 pm

      If you watch the how to use video, there really shouldn’t be a issue. It explains everything and than some. Just some friendly advice.

      • JamesKK
        May 26, 2016 at 4:35 am

        Do you think a vaporizer with a large channel to store the vapor can help you take a great hit?

        • Flipz
          June 12, 2016 at 12:10 pm

          Not sure what your asking exactly? Can you clarify for me please? Thanks

  83. Anonymous
    May 22, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    Hey Bud, great How To vid on the ff2. Quick question on clearing up clogged holes with the air duster. I’ve cleaned out the glass bowl area with a decent amt of iso and went to air dust the holes. I’d say about 10 of my holes are clogged because a friend of mine used way too much oil at once. Now when I went to air dust the holes, the little tube that was supposed to fit right into the holes starting causing probs. The tube has a hole the size of the ff2 holes, but the entire diameter of the tube (hole and plastic material that make the hole) is about 2x-3x bigger than a ff2 hole therefore not fitting. I still tried to line the tube up with a clogged ff2 hole as close as possible and let out a couple bursts of the air duster. Unfortunately none of the clogged holes were cleared this way and the air duster even liquefied for a couple seconds while I was using it on the ff2 (much like adding too much butane to a torch). Maybe I misunderstood some info in the vid or something, do you have any idea what I can do to keep my ff2 in pristine condition? Thanks and keep up the great vids!

    • Jason
      May 23, 2016 at 4:54 pm

      I think the instructions say in that case to heat it and then BLOW into it to clear the holes. I’ve read it somewhere.

  84. AC
    May 19, 2016 at 2:28 pm

    Hey bud,

    I’ve got a dilemma. I currently own a Pax 1, but I’m considering selling it to purchase the new Firefly 2.

    Things I like about the Pax:
    – I’m not a heavy vaper so I can get 4-5 decent sessions (3-5 long hits per session) out of the Pax before changing my material. I also stir the oven in between sessions.
    – Battery life.
    – Portability and discreteness.
    – Build quality and warranty.

    Things I dislike about the Pax:
    – CLEANING! (I have to clean at least once a week to keep it running as efficiently/tasty as possible)
    – Can’t do concentrates.
    – Have to grind material twice to get it fine enough. (Time consuming)
    – Taste drops off after first couple hits.

    Because I like to only take 3-5 hits per session I am thinking the Firefly would be more efficient. Based on the type of vaper I am, would you say it’s worthwhile to make the switch?

    • Flipz
      May 24, 2016 at 6:20 pm

      If you have the original PAX 1 than I would say the switch is worth it. If you have the PAX 2 though I don’t think you really need to switch IMO.

      The firefly 2 is good because your only heating it up while you hit instead of it always vaping when not drawing. Pretty cool for people who don’t vape hardcore like myself.

      With the cleaning assuming we just talk about herb and not concentrates, it doesn’t require much cleaning. If mixing between herb and concentrates than it could get a little messy but nothing some ISO can’t get rid of.

      Be easy!
      -Flipz

  85. Mark
    May 17, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    I’ve noticed that several portable vapes (G Pro, Summit) get pretty hot to the touch when they are being used. Sometimes during a long session the mouthpiece gets to a point where it almost burns my lips. I was wondering if the Firefly 2 had any issues with over heating or being uncomfortable at all when hitting it. I suppose since it is convection, it would be less likely to overheat though?

    • Anonymous
      May 19, 2016 at 12:43 am

      I experimented with mine and found that solo use with the ff2 had rare occasions of overheat, but the ff2 will overheat in situations such as a group session where ppl are constantly hitting it. The bowl side of the unit and the little metal beads that act as sensors get uncomfortably hot, whenever this happens I just let it cool down for a min or two and it’s good to go. I also had the G Pro and know exactly what your’e talking about with the mouthpiece getting too hot. With my ff2 I’ve noticed that the mouthpiece half (including mouthpiece) of the unit is never hot, even when the unit is overheated (which rarely happens). Overall the vapor is tasty and cool and I am satisfied with my purchase.

      • Anonymous
        May 21, 2016 at 7:36 am

        Thanks! I think I’m gonna go for it!

      • Flipz
        May 24, 2016 at 6:13 pm

        Couldn’t of said it better myself!

  86. BT
    May 17, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    I read so many hot and cold reviews from
    This vape! I had to order one regardless but I’m a little scared of buyers remorse! Is this vape seriously the highest rated?

  87. donaleen
    May 17, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    I have a firefly and love it except for the battery life. I spoke to Firefly and I am not sure I would like the Firefly 2 as well even though there are several improvements. What I like about the firefly original is I can control the temperature with how I use the button. I was told by Firefly that this will not be true on the Firefly 2. I have to hold the button to draw which means the unit is controlling the temperature, not me.

    I also am unhappy with the temperature settings being available only by app. Have you heard of anyone who prefers the old model over the new model?

  88. Mikeh
    May 15, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    Hey man, how’s the battery life holding up? It’s been a couple months.

  89. Dario
    May 12, 2016 at 12:53 am

    I was about to buy the flowermate 5 mini pro.. But this review… Man now I’m confused again. I’m so overwhelmed I can’t decide :( halp

  90. Kulee
    May 11, 2016 at 2:40 pm

    HiKing,
    i am not so happy with my FF2, it’s not so good as my crafty or my solo…so much noise for poor vapor, the taste is not very long…as 3 or 4 puffs…i have good material… i feel it like Magic Flight Box but more easy to use…i am not understand your 96/100 ! i am sad !

    • Anonymous
      June 2, 2016 at 6:08 pm

      I am totally agree. I didn’t liked flavor from FF2… I am learning how to use it better, but I am very disappointed… Can’t understand neither the 96/100!?!
      I have Crafty and it has really better flavor. But Battery is really poor on crafty.
      Last thing about FF2: I haven’t appreciated the plastic taste on my first use of FF2…

  91. Jay
    May 8, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    I must have a preproduction unit because the batteries don’t charge, and the touch sensitive pads are unresponsive. Emailed FF directly, no response yet.

  92. Anonymous
    May 6, 2016 at 8:28 pm

    I just preordered my black one. Can’t wait to have it in my hands.

  93. Kinick
    May 6, 2016 at 11:33 am

    Can anyone who’s used the FF2 opine on the grip? Can you hold the unit vertically without issue or does it not work as well?

    • Flipz
      May 7, 2016 at 2:14 pm

      It works good whether holding it straight or at a angle. I’ve not noticed any difference in performance between both ways. Most of the time I use mine “vertically” so your all set lol.

  94. Lewis Hiran
    May 6, 2016 at 7:25 am

    Hi,

    I have asthma and I’m trying to decide which vape to go with that’d suit my condition best.

    I can’t decide between the Firefly2 and the Crafty, or whatever vape that’d be OK for a person with asthma.

    Could you please recommend me one?

    Thanks,

    • DJ
      May 6, 2016 at 10:57 am

      My GF has asthma, and she has both the Crafty and the FF2. The Crafty is a much less resistive draw, so if it is difficult for you to undertake a long resistive draw, then that might be a nod towards the Crafty. So far we’ve gotten denser vapor from the Crafty, and the FF2 is less inclined to trigger coughing. I think we haven’t mastered the FF2 yet as far as vapor density goes, but it does definitely provide a good end result. My sense is that that FF2 ultimately will offer you a good end result with less harshness (coughing and irritation). I do really love the Crafty however. Eagerly waiting for Bud’s video on FF2 tips to learn how to get the vapor density up.

    • Flipz
      May 7, 2016 at 2:39 pm

      I’d go with the firefly 2 since it’s “on demand heating” so you can take hits as needed. The crafty on the other hand is kinda a vape whole session unit. You could turn the crafty off and back on to use again (will still get you medicated) but I found the taste/experience isn’t as pleasurable when doing that. The FF2 lets you take 1 nice hit, put it down, do whatever and come back to it when your ready.

      The reason I bring this up is for someone with asthma, having a vaporizer you can hit at your own pace would be so much better for health reasons (I’d have to imagine) than one blowing out non stop vape until herb is done. Hope this helps, good luck ;)

  95. Dude
    May 5, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    Hey Bud! i currently own a solo with a 14mm gong that i use with my 13 inch water pipe (its got a fritted disk, if you haven’t ever hit one with a vape you’re missing out haha). im currently looking for a new portable to hook up to it, but im kind of at a loss. Im looking for a good portable that can maybe do a faster, more thorough extraction. Basically something that isnt so mediocre or practical, without being a desktop. still living with the rents, cant get my herbie and xhale yet haha. my choices right now are the grasshopper, or a cf(x) by boundless, but im open to any and all suggestions. Stay up bro!

  96. Kinick
    May 5, 2016 at 11:20 am

    Hey Bud – I’m interested in the FF2, do you have to hold the unit horizontally or can you pack it just right and hold vertically when ripping similar to the pax? I love everything I’ve read on it but a horizontal grip seems to take away from the stealth factor of it all

  97. Jeremy
    May 4, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    Awesome review as always! You’ve helped me with almost all of my vape purchases. Right now I’m using the Arizer Air, but want something new. Looking at either this unit, the Kandypen Galaxy, or the Kandypen K-Vape. I currently don’t use concentrates, but am open to trying, just don’t really want to have to have stock of herbs and oils.

    Would be open to trying the Galaxy, especially at that price. Thoughts on K-Vape? Of the three do you still recommend the Firefly 2? So many questions! As always, thanks for sharing your knowledge. You’re the man!

    Bringing only good vibes!

  98. doc
    May 4, 2016 at 9:56 am

    Great reviews! Just a quick question…I have a Pax and am really disappointed in the vapor production but am considering getting the Firefly 2. I hear that the vapor is more robust. It takes me a loooong session with the Pax to get where I want and I was wondering if the same is true with the Firefly 2. Basically I wanna get baked efficiently and that seemed impossible with the Pax. Can you shed any light?

    Thanks!!

    • Olive Green
      May 4, 2016 at 4:23 pm

      I love my Pax. Use a super fine grind and make sure your green is dried out a bit and pack it tight. I get awesome clouds, but the taste is not as good as the FF2 and the maintenance was worth it, but after so many years of weekly cleanings, it was time to move on. It seems the exact opposite for the FF2. I called FF and the rep gave me some awesome tips, like forget the grinder and break up small pieces. I am pretty sure using the Pax all these years has been the reason I’ve had a hard time getting the hang of the FF2, but now that I’ve found the right “grind” and pull I am starting to really love the FF2. The taste and the high are worth the learning curve!

    • Flipz
      May 7, 2016 at 2:21 pm

      I am assuming your talking about the PAX 1 since the PAX 2 produces very nice vapor. If you are still using the first PAX, the Firefly 2 and even PAX 2 are on different levels after all this time.

      If you are talking about the PAX 2 than something is wrong… can’t imagine or see it not producing vapor on any heat setting.

      My Firefly 2 vapes herb very efficient using the heat setting medium-high or high. Personally I do not have a issue feeling nice after a session. Hope this helps.

  99. Bud
    April 29, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    I’m gonna post a video ASAP on how to use the FF2 to make sure everyone is using it right, this vape is amazing i promise.

    Quick tips:

    – coarse grind, pack chamber full

    – take 10 to 20 second draws, and pull fast if you want a lot of vapor

    – continue your draw for 2-3 seconds after disengaging heat

    – you may not get visible vapor from the first draw or two, the oven needs to warm up a little bit for peak performance

    – pulling fast seems to really make a difference, versus taking a slow sip

    • Toked
      May 2, 2016 at 12:08 pm

      Can you compare the vapor potency vs the v2 series 3 pen?

    • Olive Green
      May 2, 2016 at 7:35 pm

      I bought the Pax over 2 years ago based on your reviews and have loved everything except the maintenance in it. I’ve been eyeing the FF and was sold on the FF2 the moment I watched your review. I’ve had mine since Friday and I can only say I’ve been discouraged. You produce more vapor on low than I do on the med high temp, so I know I’m missing something. I am getting high, no doubt, but it seems to take several bowls to get to that point and I’m not sure if I’m high off vapor or the lack of oxygen from pulling so long (I am more of a sipper than a ripper). Thanks for these extra tips! I’m not giving up and look forward to your “how to” video. I love your detailed and in depth reviews!

    • DJ
      May 4, 2016 at 11:02 am

      Awesome! Can’t wait for the FF2 best practices video.

      I’m wondering why a fast pull should produce more vapor than a slow pull. Assuming the convection air temp remains the same over the course of a fast or slow draw, then there should be no difference in vapor production. And a fast draw would be more likely to reduce the convection air temp.

      Question: Do you think that a slow draw allows the lungs more time to absorb the vapor, and that explains the thinner clouds from slow draws?

      I definitely understand the desire for dense clouds, but exhaling any amount of vapor is wasteful – isn’t it?

      • DJ
        May 4, 2016 at 11:20 am

        …but I guess pulling harder could result in more total air flow in a set amount of time, so that could also account for the observation of thicker clouds from fast (harder) draws

  100. Vapy
    April 29, 2016 at 8:26 pm

    Ehh so far from the reviews I read, not many users are satisfied with the firefly 2 vapor production or high. It seems like they are forced to like it. But for $300+ I would expect it to perform without a hassle. Well it did just release. Maybe I should keep waiting for more reviews

    • Anonymous
      April 30, 2016 at 4:07 pm

      People are just sharing their experiences too quick without actually learning how to use the device. For the first couple days I had my ff2 my experience was just as you described, not satisfied with the whispy vapor production. After learning how to actually grind and load the ff2 and also the correct breathing technique I consistently get nice clouds. Although, I would say it’s a safe bet though to wait for more reviews if your’e not comfortable investing yet.

  101. Rocco
    April 29, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    I’m new to convective vaping, and was wondering if my observations are shared by others. So I was very excited to receive my firefly2 a week ago. Short story is that I’ve been experimenting with flower and am having a hard time getting any visible vapor. That said, I am experiencing a high despite the lack of much visible vapor, but would say that I must vape at least 2-3 times the amount of flower in the firefly2 as one would need in a standard bong rip to achieve the same effect. Is this common? I’ve also noted that the high from vaping comes on a bit slower and less intense than a bong rip.

    • Anonymous
      April 30, 2016 at 3:58 pm

      The “intense” hit your used to getting from your bong is most likely from the plants being burned therefore you are breathing in plant material, CO2, and thousands of chemicals. Using the ff2 will seem less intense because your’e just burning off the thc and not the plant material itself (unless you turn it up to concentrates). It also sounds like you’re still learning what works best for you from your vapor description. If you are not already doing these, I suggest that you : use a course grind by breaking your bud up by hand instead of a fine grind from a grinder, load just enough (you don’t want it packed too tight or too loose), let the ff2 heat up for 3-5 sec before hitting it, take a deep and slow 10+sec breath, and stir the bowl every 3ish hits. These tips should get you very decent clouds every time. If you just enjoy harsh smoke too much (surprisingly alot of people do), turn your ff2 onto concentrates and it’ll combust your bud guaranteed :)

  102. John
    April 29, 2016 at 12:03 pm

    Having battery problems already I hear.

  103. Jonathan
    April 28, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    I received my ff2 in the mail yesterday and since then i have not been able to make it work properly. I do not get any clouds when it heats up. Im not sure if i have a defective ff2. I have tried different grinds like with my santa cruz shredder and even breaking it apart with my fingers like there website suggests and still no vapor. Every now and then i get some vapor, but very minimal. I have also tried preheating it, and the. Hitting with the buttons still held down but no success

    • Rocco
      April 29, 2016 at 3:09 pm

      I’m having similar results, can’t get large clouds…but do experience results, but must burn about 2x flower, compared to bong rips.

  104. yoyo
    April 28, 2016 at 10:45 pm

    You got me excited for the firefly but waiting until Late May is rough.

  105. Anonymous
    April 27, 2016 at 11:55 pm

    Just received my FF2 a couple days ago, best decision I’ve ever made lol. I noticed though that when I tap the right button 3x for battery indication after it’s been charged to full, it’ll always blink 4x (75%) rather than 5x (100%). The battery works fine, but that indicator seems wonky and I was wondering if you also have that issue? Keep up the great reviews!

    • Rocco
      April 29, 2016 at 3:07 pm

      Same for me.

    • Rocco
      April 29, 2016 at 3:08 pm

      Same for me…only 4 blinks when fully charged.

      • Bud
        April 29, 2016 at 5:34 pm

        4 blinks is normal for max charge! It goes from 1 to 4

        • Lauren Holiday
          July 19, 2016 at 10:35 pm

          I just bought the FF2 and it has never blinked it just stays solid green, so I just waited about 2 seconds before taking a draw on it. I understand that this has been a common issue with the new FF2 for a lot of them….

  106. BALO~
    April 26, 2016 at 7:30 pm

    I’m curious to know if particulates, however small, may fall through the many air vent holes at bottom of stainless bowl which would then burn off by the heating element and sucked into my lungs. Also, we still do not have information on the heaters makeup which is deliberately being withheld from those who are paying a pretty price to inhale from it. I have a pre-order but this isn’t sitting well with me.

    Lastly, I wanted to order some extra accessories like mouthpieces but they are out of stock? Doesn’t make sense…stll waiting for a reply from Firefly.

    What do you think Bud?

    • Flipz
      May 7, 2016 at 2:30 pm

      I’ve got mine last week and from looking at it, if the SMALLEST piece managed to even get under the chamber… the path that the vapor travels through wouldn’t make it to your mouth. Anything is possible but it would be a ridiculously small amount over a long period of time.

      I’ve used my fair share of vapes and the FF2 is one that actually tastes mad clean inhaling from it right outta the box. There are a bunch of vaporizers I’ve gotten & tried that tasted horrible, almost poisonous when using. Guess after knowing the difference makes me appreciate how clean the Firefly 2 is. Just my thoughts though. Have a good one.

  107. Paul
    April 25, 2016 at 2:20 am

    Hey man, you do awesome reviews. I enjoy them. You talk a bit about tier1 and tier2 vapes. My question – is the extra money for a tier 1 worth it over a tier 2. the firefly is rated 96 and $100 more than the haze which is rate 91. is the $100 worth the 5 points out of 100?

    • Bud
      April 25, 2016 at 4:37 pm

      Yes ;-)

      And thanks brotha

      • Paul
        April 27, 2016 at 7:39 pm

        Can you elaborate why its worth the $100? With respect to functionality and general superiority?

  108. silat
    April 23, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    I am seriously thinking of ordering the FF2 based only on your fantastic reviews.
    I have a few questions.
    1/ can you use the unit plugged into the charger or power brick?
    2/ can you charge spare batteries outside the unit?
    3/ how long will a spare battery hold its charge outside the unit?
    4/ does changing mouthpiece eventually weaken the contact points that hold the mouthpiece in place?

    • Bud
      April 25, 2016 at 4:39 pm

      Good thinkin! ;)

      1: negative
      2: yes with external charger
      3: not exactly sure but it holds charge longer when not left inside unit
      4: so far so good, doesn’t look to be a future problem but I will monitor closely

      Stay up!

      • silat
        April 30, 2016 at 6:35 am

        2. external charger
        Do you mean the FF1 external?
        If so you have to get the FF1 external charger and the FF1 adapter.
        Or do you mean you can charge a naked battery on the FF2 charger?

  109. Blitz
    April 21, 2016 at 6:06 pm

    I really wanted a firefly 2 but I could not wait. I got a launch box just for something to vape with and I like it. They seem to have a couple of similarities. I am sure the ff is better but how do you think the two compare when it comes to 1)Vapor Quality 2)How easy is it to use and get that big cloud of vapor? Can you get a decent hit from a short draw? 3)Is the draw resistance on the ff2 irritating?
    Would it be worth it to get the firefly 2 now so soon after purchasing the mflb? Or should I wait and see how people like them and maybe even hold out for something better?

  110. Jacques
    April 20, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    Bud, thanks for the great reviews on the Firefly 2! I ordered one using your link. Keep up the good work.

    • Bud
      April 25, 2016 at 4:41 pm

      You sir are da bomb!

  111. Adrian G
    April 16, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    Hi I am a rookie in the world of vaping, I started with the Firefly 1 and this is the best thing it’s happen to me since I roll a joint by myself long time ago.

    Now I am waiting the FF2 with big expectative since I have read all your reviews of each vape and it is noteworthy that are super informative and are at the forefront in the world of vaporizers globally

    My question is ¿which do you think is the best grinder money can buy for the Firefly 2?

    Right now I own the Black tie Grinder and I think is the best grinder money can buy, but it is just my humble opinion since I am not a vape critic like you I just follow the reviews from other stoners.

    The problem I am having with those and many more grinders is ¿How to grind very greasy sticky weed?

    Thank you very much in advance.

    • Baron23
      April 18, 2016 at 12:22 pm

      HI Adrian – Your black tie grinder looks just like my Zeus grinder (Toronto Vape and Arsenal rebrands lots of good stuff with their own name/logo) and I find it works well.

      Now I took a recommendation from Bud and am extraordinarily pleased with it. Its a New Vape fine grind unit of impeccable workmanship and quality. I just like the way it feels in my hand and it works fabulously.

      https://www.vapecritic.com/shop/finegrinder-newvape/

      Clearly, if Bud replies to you soon, then follow his guidance as I’m just a face in the crowd. But this is what I have found.

      Now, I don’t know if anything will work with Gorilla Glue and the like.

  112. Anonymous
    April 15, 2016 at 11:53 am

    Thanks for reviews, keep them coming. What about the Releaux rx200 with dry herb atomizer vs ff2? Any good box mods for dry herb vaping you recommend?

    • Baron23
      April 18, 2016 at 12:15 pm

      You will find others who are perhaps more experienced than I and who will reply, but I have come to the conclusion that in general box mods and screw on atomizers just ain’t it for dry herb.

      I have bought a Cloutank 4 Atomizer and personally consider it to just be an electric pipe with exposed coils to burn your weed.

      Divine Tribes does make a ceramic doughnut based atomizer that they say works for dry herb with a temp control or variable voltage/wattage mod. Link shown below. It does have a ceramic screen to shield the herb from the doughnut heating element but I don’t know how well this works.

      I have bought one but not yet used it as I am now really favoring good quality convective vapes for my herb. I just don’t think I can vape dry herbs to my satisfaction with one of the cheaper solutions (like box mod and coil atomizer). But the DT unit is only $24 so it ain’t a lot to risk to try it.

      Units like FF2, Crafty/Mighty/Volcano/etc are really in a different league performance-wise than batteries and coils.

      Just my almost never humble opinion LOL

      Best of luck

  113. Tyler
    April 11, 2016 at 1:43 pm

    What are your thoughts on the external charger? Firefly confirmed that it works fine with the firefly 2 battery. I was thinking just keep one battery charged and ready to go at all times and switch them out as needed. Any thoughts on this?

    • Bud
      April 15, 2016 at 9:35 am

      I def recommend it for convenience to always have that spare battery charged!

  114. Diego
    April 9, 2016 at 12:01 pm

    Great review! Is this ready for direct order or is it still only for preorders? looks like it will be my first vapo

    • Bud
      April 15, 2016 at 9:36 am

      Hey excellent choice, it’s still pre-order right now and I’m not positive when it’ll be in stock but they say by end of May and I’m thinking people will start getting them before that probably

  115. Harley Quinn
    April 7, 2016 at 4:14 am

    Wow….
    Well I’ve watched both this and that excellent 3-way comparison vid. and I gotta say you’re getting better my man! I’m like 99% sold on ordering the FF2 now.
    I’ll be at 100% if you could answer just 2 questions please….
    1. Do you need an iPhone to control the temp app. thingy,or would an iPad with wifi work?
    2. Just exactly what is the temp of the concentrates setting?
    You’re doing good work so keep the faith and STAY UP!

    Harley

    • Bud
      April 15, 2016 at 9:43 am

      Hey what’s up!

      1. iPad will work! but you do need to always use the app to change heating profiles

      2. it doesn’t really have exactly temp settings with the way it works but the concentrate profile should get up to ~450-500F

      Thanks for posting!!

  116. Chief
    April 4, 2016 at 12:53 am

    Hey Bud,
    Do you know what kind of heating element or system this uses? I know its a convection vape but was wondering what the heating element was made of or how it worked because I haven’t seen anything talk about that whatsoever.

    Thanks Bud! P.S. I bought my plenty and herbalizer based on your reviews!

    • Bud
      April 15, 2016 at 10:10 am

      Hey Chief, great question, I think they keep it kind of low key (I couldn’t find info on their site about it either) but I’m pretty sure it’s ceramic and some type of metal coil, but I think they use a slightly different metal than most other vapes which is how they get such amazing vapor quality.

      I’m going to look into this more and I think I’m gonna take mine apart also to see what’s going on in there

  117. J
    April 1, 2016 at 11:40 am

    The original firefly is super rugged! I dropped mine while driving and the car behind me ran right over the firefly. My first reaction was fock I need a new vape now! Picked it up and it worked perfectly. Only a couple scratches on the red paint!

    • Bud
      April 15, 2016 at 10:11 am

      LOL nice!!!

  118. Anonymous
    March 31, 2016 at 11:51 pm

    Hey I was wondering if you would be able to vaporize kief in the firefly 2

    • Bud
      April 15, 2016 at 10:12 am

      Hey only if you mix a little in with some herbs, you won’t be able to put that in there straight

  119. Yolo
    March 31, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    Can you get “stoneeeed” off this? is this convenient for someone with a high tolerance? And does it work just as good for both flower and wax? Better than the dr.D aura?

    • Bud
      April 15, 2016 at 10:16 am

      Yesss you cannnn

      But, if you’re a heavy hitter you’ll most likely need to re-pack it at least once because of it’s tiny capacity.

      It works very very well with both flower and wax, and it’s actually one of my favorite ways to vape concentrates now, but pens like the Aura are still cool too and very convenient

  120. Lock
    March 29, 2016 at 6:13 pm

    How is mouth piece? Is there silicone or plastic exposed to heat? Do you think there is any potential toxicity? And what about the new body?

    How would you compare that to the da Vinci ascent which has silicone around the seal and the pax 2?

    I love the firefly 1 because of stainless steel any information on the magnesium alloy?

    Thanks for the hard work!

    • Bud
      April 15, 2016 at 10:21 am

      Six question marks in one comment!! lol ;)

      The mouthpiece is actually pretty nice, it’s def the cheapest part of the vape but I have no issues with it, and I think out of all the vapes I’ve reviewed this one has one of the lowest chances of having anything unsafe in the vapor path

      Really the only materials the vapor touches is stainless steel and borosilicate glass which are both inert and safe at these temps

      The new magnesium alloy shell is cool because it’s very light and seems strong, but it does scratch fairly easily so you need to be a little mindful of where you put it

      Stay up!

  121. ShaggyCat
    March 25, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    Great review! Are you going to review the new Sidekick portable vape from 7th Floor. I’m really torn between this one and that one as I love my SSV.

    • Bud
      April 15, 2016 at 10:22 am

      Hey yes I do have that one on my list thanks for asking!

  122. ispipipi
    March 24, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    Hello from chile
    I already have the crafty , do you think one that should buy the fireflay 2 ?

    thanks

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:27 am

      Hello my friend!

      Well they are both amazing vapes and right now they’re the two highest rated on my site, but they work differently, check out this video comparison I made if you haven’t watched it yet: https://www.vapecritic.com/crafty-firefly-pax/

      Basically the Crafty is more similar to the experience of smoking a J and the Firefly 2 is closer to the experience of using a bowl.

  123. Boomin B
    March 24, 2016 at 6:43 pm

    Yo V masta C, your word means something to me and I need some solid thoughts from u man. I’m a health nut and also a cheapo. I’m considering the Firely 2 for quality convection but would rather the Galaxy pen with my own homemade concentrates (shatter). Which has safer materials and cleaner vape being inhaled? I hear titanium coil glowing is bad fow yo health.

    Thanks a ton and I’m right up there with ya brosive~

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:26 am

      Yo son what up!!

      If you want quality, and you want convection, get the Firefly, it’s worth the price. And, you can do both herbs and concentrates in it. Super high quality build construction and they only used expensive materials (odorless, flavorless, food-safe) — Vapor path is borosilicate glass and stainless steel.

      The Galaxy pen is fantastic for wax but it’s not a health-nut vape, it’s for convenient use of concentrates on-the-go. I personally feel that almost every part of it is completely harmless, but I don’t honestly know 100% for sure what the coil itself is actually made from, you can’t really trust what the factories say, my guess is a Titanium alloy. Probably harmless, the coils don’t normally glow red during a regular hit so it’s usually not getting super-heated like when you dry-burn it.

      • Boomin B
        March 25, 2016 at 11:00 am

        Master Vaper, you are king of da clouds! Thank you my main man for your time and your presence in the vape community. I shall jump on the glow bug bandwagon with a pre-order. Soon I’ll be flying with the fireflies in me backyard all danx to U.

        Your friend in time,

        Boomin B

  124. Bill
    March 24, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    Great review , exactly what I was searching for.

    I’m new to the vape world, but I managed to develop adult asthma, so I gotta vape or I cough like a b :)

    I was looking at the ascent or the firefly, but then I noticed the firefly 2. Being that I don’t have a vaporizer at the moment, is the firefly 2 worth waiting for? Or should I just get the firefly now?

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:21 am

      Absolutely wait for the FF2!

      • Anonymous
        April 21, 2016 at 1:05 pm

        Thanks for the reply. I had one other question. My main needs are a smooth coop vapor. I also tend to take a hit here or there. Naturally the FF2 seems perfect for this. But I highly prefer a joint over smoking a bowl. Pipes and bowls just are too harsh for me. Is FF2 still smooth, even though it seems to resemble more of smoking from a pipe?

        • Bud
          April 25, 2016 at 4:41 pm

          Super super smooth, one of the smoothest vapes I own!

        • Anonymous
          April 30, 2016 at 7:19 pm

          Pipes and bowls aren’t even comparable to the ff2. They combust weed and create harsh smoke. The ff2 is just vapor, it’s closer to breathing air (water vapor) than to breathing smoke.

  125. Daphne
    March 20, 2016 at 3:35 pm

    I am a beginner (never used a dry herb vale before) looking to buy my first vape. I am between the firefly 2 and the pax 2. I feel like if I could go out and buy this today, I would get the firefly 2, but A. It looks like I would have to wait to late May and B. I feel like the small sips of the Pax 2 would be better for a beginner like me. What should I do?!

  126. Steve
    March 20, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    This looks awesome, in need of a portable vape. I currently own a Volcano but in need of something silent for discrete use. Would you recommend waiting for this or just going with something like the Crafty? Really not sure if having to wait a couple months is worth it for this? Any advice would be great, this will be primarily for home use.

  127. Noley
    March 15, 2016 at 1:28 am

    I’ve been waiting on the Firefly 2.0 and thought for sure I was going to get one. However, I recently saw the Evoke. Will you be reviewing it? I like the old school and new tech. Just like to get your thoughts. Thanks for all you do!

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:20 am

      Haven’t tried it yet but I have it on my list thanks for askin!

  128. John
    March 14, 2016 at 1:53 am

    Thank you for such professional reviews, a breath of fresh air on the web today.
    But…I find some of your reviews a bit inflexible and fixed to the single set-up. For example the Ariser air has tons of after market glassworks that address most all of your drawbacks, such as draw resistance. This and the fact it is Canadian made makes it a front runner, to me.
    However I keep running into huge positive reviews and testimonials about the Pax2. My problem is the old tech, ie not convection.
    I am very much interested in the Firefly2,thanks to you it seems to be the cutting edge…I wonder what the warranty is,I’m worried about its lifespan, if good I might try to wait until it is released.It is hard to get independent views since it hasn’t been released to the public.(who can trust the hired 2 models at the vape con lol).
    The last new vape I am considering is the Haze V3, which again is new and has limited good info, I like the dual tanks and its flexibility but its an ugly mo fo .
    So do you have any more info on these vapes, especially the Firefly2 , something strong enough to help me wait :).
    Your views are valued thank you.
    J

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:19 am

      Hey check out this new hour long review I posted – Firefly 2 vs. Crafty vs. PAX 2: https://www.vapecritic.com/crafty-firefly-pax/

      There’s a ton of info in there about all 3 of those vapes

      FF2 warranty is 2 years to cover defects – it’s yet to be determined what (if any) those will be since it’s new but I’ll definitely stay on top of that

  129. Martin
    March 13, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    Wow, thanks for providing such a comprehensive review! Your review + the comparisons with the Crafty and Pax2 are exactly what I needed. I’ll be using this solo.

    I just placed a pre-order for the FF2.

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:17 am

      Quite possibly the best decision of your life, and it is my pleasure I’m super glad you found it helpful :)

  130. SYLK
    March 11, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    This was a great review! After vaping for 2 years, know what i would need to improve the experience, feel you hit all the critical points with this one. Will be ordering, THANKS #BUD!!!!!

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:16 am

      #YouDaMan!!!

  131. BigB
    March 10, 2016 at 11:05 am

    Great review as always! Just wondering if you have any opinion on the still-to-b-released Evoke vape? Hoping you’ll be reviewing it..was gonna get the Pax2 or FF2 but this new one looks very interesting…

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:16 am

      Hey thanks for your request I have that one on my radar but haven’t seen or tried it yet!

  132. Jess
    March 9, 2016 at 1:30 pm

    What kind of warranty does firefly offer with this vape?

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:16 am

      They cover defects for 2 years, they’ll repair or replace, you’d probably have to pay to ship it to them if it required service though ($6 usps)

  133. Kevin Ross
    March 9, 2016 at 11:52 am

    Great review man, going to keep my eye on the Firefly 2, thank you for all your time and effort. Any chance you get your hands on a Grasshopper? I imagine if you wrote them and told them who you were they would send you one for reviewing purposes. Anyways, thanks again and stay up!

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:14 am

      Finally got mine the other day and I don’t want to jump the gun but I’ve used it a dozen times so far and have been thoroughly unimpressed (*as a portable, seems to be good used with rig) – still going to keep testing before reaching final verdict

  134. H-dawg
    March 7, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    Is there a way to clean the vapor path in the Firefly2? I’ve been shopping around for my first vape and it’s between the Pax 2 and FF2 for me — leaning toward FF2 because of what you noted about the ability to put it down and have the rest later — and I know in Pax 2 there’s a simple way to clean the residue out of the path with a pipe cleaner, but I didn’t notice any mention of that in your video review, other than cleaning the oven/bowl/lid and mouthpiece. Just wondering about the path in between the bowl and the screen/mouthpiece — whether we should expect residue to build up there over time and whether anything can be done about it.

    • Anonymous
      March 21, 2016 at 12:16 am

      The path is in between the lid and the top plate of the FF2. You simply just wipe that off when you open the lid. Literally the easiest vape to clean! ;-)

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:12 am

      Yes absolutely, the vapor path is along the glass from the oven to the mouthpiece and all of it is very easy to clean and it’s fast.

      All you need to do to clean this vape is put a little ISO on a paper towel and wipe it down, should take no more than 30 seconds, and you can get it 99.9% clean

    • Anonymous
      September 14, 2016 at 1:43 am

      go pax2 i have both. its simple the ff2 will take some skillz

  135. Anonymous
    March 6, 2016 at 1:49 am

    I’ve made up my mind and I’m going to buy a FF2 as soon as its available in Switzerland – but that might take quite a while. I haven’t had a vaporizer yet, and I am anxious to try one out as soon as possible. Which convection vapes do you recommend that are not too expensive to buy until I can actually get the FF2? Thank you.
    [I posted this question in the FF2 release announcement, you can ignore that one.]

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:11 am

      Excellent decision ;-)

      Cheap convection portables are not something I recommend so I would maybe consider a vape like the Astral for a little over $100: https://www.vapecritic.com/astral/

  136. Two-a-days with Ricky Williams
    March 5, 2016 at 5:28 pm

    As a dissatisfied owner of the first Firefly, there is nothing about the FF2 that I would trust right off the bat. The first installment seemed promising, then with its combustion and battery issues, it became quite apparent that it really wasn’t as great as advertised. I just can’t imagine this vaporizer being able to compete with something like the Grasshopper which costs substantially less (up to half the cost), weighs next to nothing, has a lifetime warranty, amazing vapor production, is compatible with water attachments, almost equivalent heating time, etc. Don’t get me wrong the FF2 looks beautiful, but personally, I would be quite wary of purchasing one until its been out on the market for a while and has been thoroughly tested (especially for reliability). Anyways, thanks for the review champ.

    • Bud
      March 25, 2016 at 10:09 am

      Just got my preordered grasshopper the other day and do not feel thus far that it is near the same level as the Firefly2, two different tiers.

  137. Jules
    March 5, 2016 at 11:31 am

    Could you post pic of pax2 next to FF2? Size comparo? Thanks!! Love the reviews, stay up!

    • Bud
      March 16, 2016 at 11:11 am

      Check it out I posted one above in the description!

  138. Dub
    March 4, 2016 at 10:06 am

    Hey Bud. Im thankful I came across your stuff on youtube. You have attention to detail that fits how I would view things. Im a little frustrated that you sold me on a firefly 2 but the thing wont even be available till may! Do you think I should just get a pax2 or buy a $75-100 dry herb vape untill I can get a firefly.

  139. mcr1001
    March 3, 2016 at 9:22 pm

    wow better rating than crafty i got crafty your review and was super impressed XD i have first firefly may have to check this one out great review XD

  140. Howard F.
    March 3, 2016 at 7:07 am

    Can the Firefly 2’s temperatures be adjusted without a smart phone?

    • Two-a-days with Ricky Williams
      March 5, 2016 at 5:30 pm

      I don’t own one per say, but my guess would be no. Could be wrong though..

    • Bud
      March 16, 2016 at 11:06 am

      Unfortunately the heating profiles cannot be adjusted without the app, but you can at least have the vape indicate what setting it’s on without it

  141. Bud
    March 3, 2016 at 12:35 am

    I’m working on responding to everybody ASAP thank you all for posting!

  142. Adrian
    March 2, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    In your opinion witch is better for shatter the dd aruara or this 1 ? I’m looking for something that gives me a real strong hit I own a mighty and am not quite satisfied by the hit tbh the clouds are awesome but the buzz just doesn’t quite cut it for me i also have a cloud Evo I’m satisfied with the buzz it gives wish it was portable though lol

  143. Richard Fitzwell
    March 2, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    The fact that its Made in China is the only reason I’m not buying this one..

    • Anonymous
      March 3, 2016 at 4:57 pm

      Only the short-sighted and ignorant believe that all products made in China are bad products. Literally China had nothing at all to do with the quality of a product, what matters is the facility and it’s guidelines that the product was made in. The reason why many businesses produce in China is because China’s business tax rate is around 15-20%…….the U.S. has a business tax rate of almost 40%, that’s freaking insane and the only reason why we produce in China. The FF2, AT&T, Apple, GE, Best Buy, Ford, Abercombie and Finch, American Eagle Outfitters, Banana Republic, Ford, Nabisco and MANY more quality businesses make their products in China. So in the end quality businesses make quality products in quality facilities over in tax friendly China.

      • Richard Fitzwell
        March 4, 2016 at 3:26 am

        I didn’t say ALL and whats with the name calling?? I refuse to buy a vaporizer made in china.. The main reason companies make things in china is because of cheap labor not business tax rates.

        • Anonymous
          March 4, 2016 at 10:27 pm

          “The fact that its Made in China is the only reason I’m not buying” implies that you believe all products from China are poorly made……I was a bit harsh and rude in my previous comment, my bad. Cheap labor is a major factor in moving your business to China, but the lower tax rate is the main reason for big companies. Imagine that you’re a multi-million dollar company, paying more than double the tax rate in the U.S. compared to China will drastically hurt your revenue. If the FF2 was made in the U.S. it would literally be the exact same product with a more hefty price tag to make up for lost revenue, but not buying a China made vape is totally your individual choice and there’s nothing wrong with that.

          • Hank Johnson
            March 22, 2016 at 5:34 pm

            Well if you’re saving all this money on taxes and labor shouldn’t this thing be around $150 like the Arizer Air that is MADE IN CANADA??

          • Anonymous
            March 22, 2016 at 10:29 pm

            @Hank Johnson, for some reason it’s not letting me reply to your comment :P. Your question is a bit perplexing, it’s like saying why does this $1 apple not cost the same as this $2 orange….they’re literally two different products. I believe the different technology and material justify the cost difference. Also the corporate tax rates in Canada are nearly identical to China, 15%-26% :).

          • SJT
            August 13, 2016 at 10:13 pm

            Actually, he didn’t say anything at all about why he didn’t want a Chinese-made vaporizer. Maybe he objects to their politics or business practices or human rights violations or even the fact that they still test his favorite shade of lipstick on animals. You made quite the blind assumption there yourself, Captain Hypocrite. Christ……

      • silat
        May 4, 2016 at 4:02 pm

        1/ American businesses do not PAY anywhere near 40%.

      • silat
        May 4, 2016 at 4:03 pm

        2/ The reason American corps go to China is for the slave labor and the very low wages.

  144. Nobby
    March 2, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    Hiya
    Quick question, who would you advise or who are genuine authorised dealers? Many thanks, I have the original (replaced my Extreme q as my go to device) and am looking forward to getting version 2.
    All the best
    Nobby

    • Bud
      March 16, 2016 at 11:03 am

      Hey sup Nobby I’m actually not sure who the authorized dealers of the FF2 will be yet but I’ll keep you all posted!

  145. Shane Parks
    March 2, 2016 at 1:52 pm

    And where is it made? Sorry if this information is already posted, I haven’t seen it yet. Does it come with any accessories to clean it or a storage pouch?

    • Anonymous
      March 3, 2016 at 5:01 pm

      It’s made in China and does come with a cleaning kit. I’m pretty sure it does not come with a storage kit but don’t take my word for it.

    • Bud
      March 16, 2016 at 11:02 am

      Yes made in China but its really made well, not a typical china vape by any means.

      It does come with cleaning accessories (brush, picks and a couple wipes) but a carrying case is not included, they’ll have one soon though that can be added on or ordered separately

  146. Shane Parks
    March 2, 2016 at 1:48 pm

    Why the jump in pride from the FF1 to the FF2? What justifies the extra cost?

    • Anonymous
      March 3, 2016 at 5:04 pm

      Easier to clean, faster heat up time, more portable because it’s smaller and lighter, temp control with app, removable mouthpiece with filter, better designed buttons and wayyyyyyyy better battery life.

    • Jupe
      March 7, 2016 at 10:21 am

      You get an extra $30 battery and a $30 charging dock in the box.

    • Bud
      March 16, 2016 at 11:00 am

      Hey Shane I had some issues with the original model but this new one really is improved, physically as in the size and shape but also the technology behind it has been improved so its more efficient and has better battery life — they also include a few more things in the FF2 box

  147. Jupe
    March 2, 2016 at 9:18 am

    Thanks for the review!

    I bought my FF based on your reviews and for the short term it had been great. The vape quality is amazing, accepts the right amount of dry herbs for my 4-5 daily sessions and produces very little smell although I only use it at home.

    Long term though it was one of the worst vapes one could buy. As DGI above and many others have said the battery dies after about 3 months (this has been confirmed by Patrick from FF last Feb). So the 120USD per annum upkeep is accurate. Would be interesting to know how long will they keep FF/FF2 batteries on stock to support the units. The battery has a 30 day warranty.

    The bigger problem was that the heating coil snapped within 3-6 months all the time. So I had to constantly send back faulty units and paying the postal fees. So the yearly upkeep comes to about 150USD.

    The last time I had enough and picked up a Pax2 while they were repairing the FF. Smells bad, the high is different (FF is better) but at least I don’t have to constantly worry that my vape dies as I have a backup.

    Obviously this raises a lot of questions around their quality check process or may have been a design flaw (not the first: remember the two types of batteries they had? They changed manufacturer who got the size wrong so the new ones fit tighter).

    Any indication that this has been acknowledged and resolved? You mentioned the tight manufacturing and the lack of defects. How did you verify that?

    For me this is definitely a buy but I am concerned that I will have to pick up the Pax2 every 3 months for a couple of weeks.

    Thanks again for your work!

    • Analyst
      March 2, 2016 at 10:12 am

      @DGI and @Dupe – this is a completely different platform; from the energy core to the heating algorithms to the batteries.

      I trust Mark and Sasha (founders) and have heard this product is more of a revolution than an evolution.

      Twice as long per battery x 2 batteries = 4 times the life.

      That’s something like 15 bowls / 150 draws. That’s enough for anyone plus their 15 friends.

      Winner.

      • Jupe
        March 2, 2016 at 3:22 pm

        “energy core” – it does look like something out of Iron Man’s lab.

        I’d like to understand how the battery is a completely different platform. As per the website it’s using the same battery as the FF1 so maybe the use of the battery is improved in terms of efficiency but the batteries presumably did not not. They will have a short life.

        That’s probably why you are getting an extra battery (and a price increase with it) as it will prolong the perceived battery life and it’s good to have a backup. I believe the rest of the price increase is the charging dock that used to be 30USD for the FF1. That’s exactly 330USD.

        My costs with the FF1: 270USD base price, 2 batteries first year and 3 the second year – 420USD for 2 years.

        My expectations with FF2: 330USD base, 2 batteries second year – 390USD for 2 years.

        It’s definitely a clutch pick up:
        1. if you have an FF1 the batteries are compatible so if your main unit dies you have a backup until it comes back from warranty.
        2. Given that you get the charging dock and an extra battery the price increase is covered so better this than the FF (which is sold out). Believe me, you don’t want the extra battery without the dock.
        3. if you don’t have a vape it still offers the best portable vape quality, conserves a lot of material and everything Bud said.

        • Bud
          March 14, 2016 at 6:39 pm

          Hey so the deal with this new version is that they reengineered the way the vape draws power from the battery, and it draws less than the original model.

          So it’s more efficient and also puts less strain on the battery. For example with a fully charged battery (the same one) I get roughly 30 draws from my FF1 and about 50 with my FF2.

          It’s too early to say 100% that the life of the battery itself is improved but so far all signs point to yes, and this is someting I will constantly be monitoring for sure.

          In regards to manufacturing process there is more consistency with the new version, like in the heating. With the original it varied more unit to unit, some people’s would run a little hotter than others which provided mixed results.

          Also since the new one has the app that controls the heating it’s a more consistent experience, and the heat profiles can be updated and tweaked through app updates.

          This info came straight from the horses mouth and so far it is falling directly in line with my experience.

          Stay up!

  148. Rob
    March 2, 2016 at 7:25 am

    Hey Bud, like everyone else really appreciate your reviews, keep it up dude!! So I was pretty much set on either going with the crafty or the mighty, slightly leaning towards the mighty for the better battery performance but now your rating this Firefly 2 higher than those and I really don’t know which to go for. So I’ll cut to the chase, if you could only use one which one and why, crafty/mighty or firefly 2? Cheers.

    • Bud
      March 2, 2016 at 8:33 pm

      Hey thanks Rob! Ok I’m gonna break this down into the simplest terms possible and we go from there…

      All three are Tier 1 vapes with excellent performance, the biggest differentiator is gonna be the experience while using them:

      Crafty/Mighty = Smokin a J

      Firefly 2 = Smokin a bowl

      See what I’m sayin? ;-)

      • Rob
        March 3, 2016 at 5:18 am

        Cheers for the reply Bud, I get you! Gonna go with the Mighty.

  149. Da White James Bond
    March 2, 2016 at 3:48 am

    Performance, vapor quality, efficiency on the firefly2 vs mighty

    • Bud
      March 2, 2016 at 4:49 pm

      Straight A’s, both of them, just two different styles of vaping

      • Da White James Bond
        March 2, 2016 at 8:58 pm

        Thank you Guy with sunglasses stay up???

  150. flo
    March 2, 2016 at 3:06 am

    looks sexy. but when i have the 1 and a lot of other vapes I think I don´t need it.

    • Bud
      March 2, 2016 at 4:48 pm

      I feel ya flo!

  151. DGI
    March 2, 2016 at 2:07 am

    A great review, as always. I’ve had the first FF for about a half year, and I used your review in large part to make my purchase decision. You were exactly on target with many of your observations, particularly that the Firefly is a portable device only in the very limited sense that it’s easy to take from place to place. It’s anything but the “walk and toke” that some of its promotion, particularly in social media, seems to want to portray it as. That the device has its downsides is well known, but there’s one liability that you didn’t mention, and that I’m wondering if they corrected in this iteration. The batteries have a very limited number of recharges. I purchased my device with an extra battery and both batteries are now all but unusable (they can be charged, but last the duration of one use at best). At $30/pop this is almost like a $120 “annual fee” to own a version 1 Firefly. If the same is true of the new device it’s just not practical, I’m afraid. As nice as the device is, the economics should take it out of contention for most people, sad to say. Thanks again for the care and effort you put into your reviews.

    • Bud
      March 2, 2016 at 4:47 pm

      Hey thanks for posting I totally feel you!

      I’m going to keep using mine every day to see how the battery holds up and if I notice any degradation I’ll definitely post an update.

      Something with the way the original FF drew power is what I’ve been told was the main cause of premature battery wear, but they totally re-worked the new version and it draws less power now (more efficient) and the batteries themselves have been improved as well.

      I’m going to keep an eye on this but I’ve spoken to them about it and it’s definitely something they’re aware of and worked hard on improving, so we’ll see how they did, so far so good.

      • Ross
        May 16, 2016 at 5:12 am

        You will get better battery life if you charge the ff not with 2 amps of current, but 1 or 0.5 amps.

        Sure you won’t charge as fast, but I’m sure the people at ff would recommend only a 1 amp charge rate. This will prolong the battery life significantly.

    • Brandon
      June 17, 2016 at 5:11 pm

      their heaters also break often adn then you have too pay 15ish to send it and $30 to replace its not underwarrenty which would be good if it didnt happen every 2 or 3 months mine broke In 3 or4 and I barely used it. i hope they fixed this on the new heater they had too but mow we have to hope using the 500degree setting ofter. according to the staff it breaks when it reaches 420 degrees to many times. now that they shortened their warrenty the cust. better hope so that’s something id like to hear about. id def. love to check out the FF2 since ive mastered the FF1 and i know how good that unit is despite its flaws. Btw it’ll only burn if its overpacked simple fix. anyway im gettting the titanium Grasshopper and despite the flavor the only thing that im interested in is effecianty but how different are the GH vs. the FF2 effieceintcywise?

  152. Zep (Cheryl Phelan)
    March 1, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    Love my Pax2. My Firefly’s been in the drawer since I got it practically. My hubby couldn’t hit off it without burning it, the bowl amount, crappy battery time and unease of loading on the fly (lol) made it 2nd rate compared to our Paxs. We both have one. I could get good taste from the FF but all the rest still applied.
    We’re flying to L.A. In April and I had an Alfa sent there…is awaiting us for our vacation. We like to xc ski, hike & bike and we are psyched to test it out. I’ll try to get back to you on our opinion. Have you tried Cherry Bomb? Wicked tasty stuff we were getting this fall. Stay up!

    • Bud
      March 2, 2016 at 4:41 pm

      Hey I hear you about the original Firefly it definitely had its share of issues, but I do truly feel this new version is much improved. My testing of it will be ongoing to make sure reliability stacks up but the other things you mentioned, and most other stuff about it, is better!

  153. Chris Kolbasowski
    March 1, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    ..it’s awesome to be part of this evolving industry and witness these technological strides in the engineering of these newer portables.
    This ff2 is a perfect example of growth vs. the v1.
    One can only hope vapeXhales next is either a port or a digital desktop…that unit too will supercede anything before it by a large margin.

    • Bud
      March 1, 2016 at 5:17 pm

      Isn’t it?? I hope so too!

    • Anonymous
      March 1, 2016 at 5:39 pm

      yo!
      I made a sex tape of me and my crafty….

      • Bud
        March 2, 2016 at 3:49 pm

        hahaha ur nutty

      • Anonymous
        April 11, 2016 at 10:36 pm

        I did too but alas the crafty bailed at hour 162.

  154. Daniel
    March 1, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    Great review! How does this compare to the Mighty? Only a 2 year warranty for such an expensive vaporizer, compared to Pax at 10 years. Such a small oven? That would seem a bit of a hassle to have to pack constantly. Slightly better then the crafty?

    • Bud
      March 2, 2016 at 3:45 pm

      Hey the three of them are all excellent top tier vapes, but the way I look at it there’s one main distinction between them…

      With the Crafty & Mighty you pack the chamber, turn the vape on and wait 2 minutes, then vape it all in one session of about 10-12 mins with short breaks between draws. I consider these the vaporizing equivalent of smoking a J.

      With the Firefly you manually control the heater and you only engage it during your draws. This allows you to wait as long as you please between draws without wasting any or over-heating your herb, and it also means it’s a good vape for taking one or two pulls at a time and saving the rest for later. This one is the vaping equivalent of using a bowl.

      • Sean
        March 23, 2016 at 8:04 pm

        Good review of the three being compared. I’m looking forward to trying the Firefly2. What always bothered me about the Pax2 was having to vape the whole bowl. I bought the Pax2 after using a Hot Box for years. I liked the Hot Box because I could load just a small amount of material but it is a desk top vape. That’s where the Pax2 comes in – portability. Keep up the good reviews \m/

        • Mhip
          June 2, 2016 at 6:00 pm

          I’ve had my Pax2 for quite awhile.
          I fine grind, and can pack just around a 1/4 capacity by tamping it down with the flat back end of my pick.
          Works perfect, herb does not move. I can custom load just the amount I want.

      • Rayneshine
        April 29, 2016 at 4:08 am

        Most excellent review! Just what I needed to know to make my final decision. While I’ve been drawn to Crafty (and I love j’s) I also tend to fluff about alot n like to take my time between draws… so seems FF2 is gonna be the it :)

      • drmoze
        August 26, 2016 at 9:34 pm

        Doesn’t really matter. If the chamber is hot in a convection vape and you aren’t drawing, you don’t lose anything. You can take just a draw or 2 (or none!), let it cool down and heat it up later, and the psychoactive components will be there. No chemical reaction like combustion when the vape heats to sub-400F temps. The heat-on-demand may be a bit more efficient wrt battery life/usage.

      • mike
        September 3, 2016 at 9:26 am

        pax has a half pack lid now which is awesome. a good idea. they listen to feedback and make changes. thats the sign of a progressive and smart company..regardless of industry or product line, these guys are a top tier company. I had an issue with my pax2, and they replaced it in a heartbeat. no hassles, no problems. just buy from an authorized dealer.

  155. Brandon Ly
    March 1, 2016 at 3:22 pm

    Man I would absolutely love one but the price point right now isn’t doable :/

    • Bud
      March 2, 2016 at 3:17 pm

      It’s up there :\ but stick around I’m gonna be reviewing some more good ones soon that are less expensive

      • Karen Kahrs
        October 3, 2016 at 5:33 pm

        I made the decision to by the FF2 based on your review and I just got mine last week. I kind of hated it for the first 2 or 3 days and then the new technique kicked in. I can’t believe how efficient it is and I absolutely love it. Thanks for your work!

  156. mark13
    March 1, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    OMG you have eyes!!!! i dont think id recognize you without the shades hahaha. great review!! on principle, im sooo glad this thing has unseated the crappy crafty.

    i just got a lotus two weeks ago and am LOVING it! i use it with my [water pipe] empty, no water. thats how i have been getting the best results. compared to the crafty, i think the lotus is smoother and gives more flavorful hits.

    do you still think this new version of the ff compares to the lotus?

    while i know this is a really hard question — comparing apples and oranges — if you could only have one, would you get the ff2 or the cloud exhale?

    • Bud
      March 2, 2016 at 3:16 pm

      ;-)

      The new FF is still a similar concept yes, and oh my goodness that question is like backing me into a corner! haha I mean ideally you should really have both since the experiences are so different but I supposed I’d personally go with the FF2 if I HAD to for the portability, I vape away from home a lot. But it’s funny cus I’m home right now and I’m actually using the VapeXhale as I type this, I love them both!!

  157. Anonymous
    March 1, 2016 at 11:16 am

    Fuckin banging review cant wait for my blue one

    • Bud
      March 1, 2016 at 11:27 am

      The blue is hot son!

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