Pax Portable Vaporizer by Ploom

Pax The Pax vaporizer is a sleek portable unit made by a company called Ploom. This thing is pretty advanced and has some cool, unique features that set it apart from others.

The coolest things about the Pax are how convenient it is to carry around and how easy it is to use. Everything you need to do, from packing the chamber, to changing the heat setting, to taking draws, to charging it, is super easy and user-friendly.

It’s also very small and discreet, and you can turn it on and off quickly, which makes it the #1 vape I recommend for use on-the-go.

As far as efficiency goes you can get good results with this vape using as little as 0.2g of herbs in the chamber, which should get you about 10 good draws. You can also fully pack the oven with about 0.4g and get about 20 draws from it.

Battery life is good too, you can get around an hour of usage from a full charge and then it also fully recharges in about an hour.

Click here to buy a Pax from the authorized dealer I recommend. I’ve been buying vapes from them for a long time and they’ve always been reliable and have provided excellent service, definitely check them out.

IMPORTANT: This vape is very popular and unfortunately some people have taken advantage of that and created fake versions of it to sell at a lower price. Some of them look just like the real thing but these imitations do not perform nearly as well, they have many reliability issues, and you will not have the 10 year warranty through Ploom. Please, I’m begging you, make certain you buy from a true authorized dealer. DO NOT buy this on an auction site or any website that sells it for less than the MSRP, there are way too many fakes out there to risk it. The store I link to is where I got mine from and they are 100% an authorized Ploom dealer selling genuine Pax vapes with full warranties.

For more info about this vape check out my new Pax vs Firefly comparison video:

I also highly recommend checking out this blog post which has some tips & tricks on how to get maximum vapor production and how to use this vape with small amounts of material.

Keeping this unit clean and lubricated is also important for optimal performance, so I made this video showing how to clean it and apply the mouthpiece lubricant (it’s easy).

VapeRating: 88/100

Video transcription:

What it is, my friends. This video is about the Pax Vaporizer by Ploom. This thing is a new, hand held, portable vape with a list price of $249. Now, I’m quite impressed with this one, so first, I’m going to tell you everything I like about it, and how it works. Then, I’ll tell you the few things that I thought were not that great. I’ll start with the overall design of this vaporizer, which is super advanced compared to other ones that are out, and it also feels like a high quality unit, it feels luxurious, and it’s very discreet. All good things you would want in a portable vape.

Let me start from the bottom up and show you how this thing works. At the bottom of the unit, you have the herb chamber, or what they call the oven, and this part is pretty cool. So, the cap, or the cover of the oven, is magnetic, and to take it off, all you have to do is push down one side of the bottom, the other side will pop up, and then you just lift it off with your finger. And now you have access to the chamber where you pack your herbs. Now, the cool thing about this chamber is that these guys thought of the whole surface area thing that I talk about sometimes. And they designed the chamber at the bottom to maximize the surface area of the herbs that are heated. Then, after you fill the chamber, you take the bottom piece, and you just place it right back on and the magnet catches it. So, after your chamber is packed, and your cover is on, all you need to do to turn the vape on is flip it over, and gently push in the mouth piece, and then the mouth piece pops out. When you do that, the vap automatically turns on, and the light will glow purple when it’s heating up.

Now, another feature that makes everything about this vape really easy is that it only has three heat settings to choose from: low, medium, or high. And, to change the heat setting, all you do is pull out the mouth piece, there’s a little groove on the back. So, you stick your thumb nail in, and just pull out the mouth piece while it’s heating up. And then, inside there’s a little white light with a button, and when you push the button, it’ll cycle through the three heat settings. So, dark red is high, yellow is low, and orange, or the default setting when you first get it, is medium. They actually do tell you what the temperatures are for those settings. So, the low setting, they say, is 375 degrees Fahrenheit, medium setting is 390, and the high setting is 410. And again, I tried all three settings, and on the lowest setting, you’ll get lighter vapor, and on the highest setting, you’ll get a little more intense vapor, and it’ll vape it up faster.

I thought all three settings were good, so definitely just experiment on your own and see what you like. After you select your desired heat setting, all you have to do is pop the mouth piece back in, like that, and then it resumes heating up. Now, through my testing, I’ve found that actual heat-up times are just about a minute, and that’s pretty quick compared to most vapes. Even when the battery starts to get really low, it still heats up in just over a minute, which is pretty cool. So, as you can see now, the light’s green, which means that the vape reached the preset temperature, and it’s ready to go. And all you do to start vaping is start taking your draw from the mouth piece.

Now, this leads me to one of the things that I wasn’t too thrilled about. It’s really not a big issue, everybody has a different opinion on this, but I just personally don’t thoroughly enjoy it. That is, when you’re taking your draw, you’re going to feel some resistance, like it’s not super easy to pull. And I’d say that the closest vape that feels like that is the Solo vape. That one has a similar feeling, where, when you’re taking your draw, you feel some resistance. It’s harder to pull than other vapes where you feel like you’re inhaling free air. So, that’s just a slight negative in my book.

Just as a side note, sometimes the vape will start doing this, and all I can tell you is, don’t worry, it’s normal, it’s not broken.

One of the other really cool, advanced features of this thing is that it can sense when you’re using it. It obviously has some kind of motion detector thing inside. If you put the vape down, and it sits perfectly still for 20 seconds, the light on the front will turn blue, from green, and this means that the vape entered power save mode automatically. So, how cool is that? If you just decide you want to put it down for a few minutes, it’ll know and it’ll just put itself into power save mode. And then, when you’re ready to come back and start vaping again, you just pick it up, and it knows you picked it up, and it just reengages the heater. So that I was pretty impressed with, because no other vapes I’ve tried so far had that feature.

I found that, with a full chamber, you can get quite a few draws out of this thing. It feels like it just keeps going and going. But, this leads me to something that’s not really a negative, but it’s sort of a neutral thing. And, that is that the draws that you get out of this thing are light to medium density, at the most. It’s really difficult to get a huge draw out of this thing, or blow out a lot of vapor. It’s not really one of those vapes, it’s meant to take smaller draws than usual. But, the draws are really only small compared to at-home units. Compared to other portable vaporizers, it’s right on par with those. So, all I’m saying is that if you’re used to an at-home unit like the Extreme Q, or the Volcano, or the Plenty, any one of those, and you get one of these things, just be prepared for the draws to not be as intense or strong. They’re a little lighter. And the cool part of that is that you get a lot of them. You could get up to 20, from a single chamber. So, given that it’s pretty efficient, and it does produce a lot of draws, I would say that it is good for one to two people max. And, I’d have to say that if you’re really looking for the full experience, it’s probably more like one chamber per person. So, just keep that in mind if you plan on using it with multiple people.

One of the other things you can do with this vape, if you want to see what battery life you have left at any time, just shake the vape, and it’ll blink a color on the screen. So, red means that mine’s going to die soon. When it’s fully charged, I’m pretty sure that the light is green, and when it’s in the middle, it’s yellow or orange. So, when the vape finally does die, all you do to turn it off is push in the mouth piece, so it’s super easy. And then, this is the charging dock that it comes with, so you take it, and you turn it upside down, and place it right on top of the dock, like that. And, what I found through my testing, is that if the battery is fully depleted, you can realistically expect it to get back to a full charge in just about an hour and a half or so. If it’s not fully depleted yet, it won’t take that long, but if you run it until it’s dead, expect it to take, at least, 90 minutes. But that’s actually a pretty good number, and it’s below average.

Another thing you do need to keep in mind with the Pax is that it’s not a vape that you could use while it’s charging. So, some other portable models, if you needed to, you could actually use it while it’s plugged in. But with the Pax, if it dies, you have to stop using it and put it on the charger. Not a huge deal, just something that you need to keep in mind.

Before I wrap it up, I just wanted to show you guys the vape up close, and mention a few more things. So, this is the bottom of the vape, this is the cover I was talking about, the magnetic cover to get to the oven, or the herb chamber. Really cool design with this, I like it a lot. And, up here on the other side, there’s the mouth piece. This is what it looks like when it’s in the off position, when it’s pushed in. And to turn it on, you just click it in, it pops out, and it starts heating up. So, that’s really it, and the only other thing to do, if you want to change the heat temperature, is you pull the mouth piece off, like this, when it’s on, and that’s the button with the white light, that you would push to change the heat setting. And then once you pick the setting you want, you just take the mouth piece, snap it right back in, and it resumes heating up.

Now, as far as how long a full charge lasts, or how long you can actually vape with it, in my real life testing, I got about an hour of actual usage before it died. So, if you figure roughly ten minutes a session or so, maybe 12 minutes, you could probably get six sessions per charge. And, being that it does recharge in only 90 minutes, that’s pretty good. And the last thing I wanted to mention was the vapor quality and the taste. Even though it’s a little on the light side, like I mentioned earlier, the taste is definitely good, and I personally thought that the potency was just about average. Not too light, but not extremely heavy, either.

Overall, I’m really impressed with this thing and I really like it. What I like most about it is that it really, truly is portable, and super easy to use. And, when you’re trying to vape on the go, that’s exactly what you want, a vape that’s really portable and easy to use. It looks cool, it’s high quality, and it does the job it’s supposed to do. So, I highly recommend the Pax, and I know that I’ll be using it quite often. So, if you’re looking to buy a new portable vape that is above average in most areas and exceptional in some, go to PaxVape.info, and what that’ll do is redirect you right to the authorized dealer, that I got mine from, and the store that I recommend you shop at if you’re going to buy vapes online. So, definitely let me know if you have any questions. I really appreciate you watching my stuff, and stay up.

This video is a full vape session with a few tips & FAQ:

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  1. Excellent review. Thanks. Now the portable vape pricepoint just jumped. The thing is pocket friendly and discreet without glass and gives a decent vapor. Check x3. Since I doubled the price I was willing to spend, I’ll save up a bit.

    • Hi There,

      I am interested in purchasing a vaporizer, however I have no experience with the process nor the equipment needed to get the desired result. I watched your video on the “Pax” portable unit and I also read the reviews on the “Plenty” or the “Volcano”. I really do not need the ability to carry it with me so the portable aspect of the “Pax” to me has not a lot of value. I am much more interested in the ease of use/maintenance and quality/ease of the draw. It seems like the “Plenty or the Volcano” may be the best answer. What would you recommend for a rookie like me. Again thanks for doing what you do.
      Plz advise
      LUIGI

      • Hey Luigi,

        This is currently my favorite portable overall but if portability is not a feature you’re looking for then the Volcano and the Plenty are excellent choices.

        They’re both very easy to use, require very little maintenance, are very easy to draw from, and produce high quality vapor.

        There are some others that I also like but if you’re looking for the best I’d go with either of those.

  2. …thanks for the review, I have ordered this device and your revew has me anticipating its arrival..living in s.f. I’m also pleased to be helping a local buis.

  3. I was looking forward to purchasing this device from the shop you recommended but doesn’t seem to be shipping outside of US/Canada atm.

    But thank you for the review, it was a great read/watch.

    • Hey thanks I’m really glad you liked the review, and I do apologize that it’s not shipping to other countries right now, I believe it’s because of some formality with the company that makes this specific vape, but hopefully that changes soon.

      • Hi Vapecritic,

        I have a Vapir NO2 and I would like to know if the Pax is much better than my unit concerning vapor quality, quantity and density?? I know it’s way more portable and easier on the go. The Vapir No2 is not something you can carry inside your pocket, but still it’s a nice vaping device.

        I can really compare with other units, since the Vapir No2 is the 1st and only vaporizer I’ve ever used and it was enough for me to quit nasty smoking. I am loving to vape my herbs, really good feeling and the [effects are] clean and much better.

        I’ve just ordered the Plenty Vaporizer based in your reviews, so you see that I really pay attention to your reviews and you said the Plenty was your 2nd best vape of all time, only behind the Volcano. I was looking for the best whip vaporizing in the market, so I think I made a good choice getting the Plenty. I haven’t tried it cause I’ve just ordered it. But coming from a Vapir No2, I think and I hope to feel a big deal of difference in vapor quality, taste and density, big clouds!!!!

        Now, the big question, if you had a Vapir NO2 like me and also just ordered a more professional unit like the Plenty for home use, would you get a the Pax? I am only considering buying the Pax becuse it looks so nice, Apple design, and it’s so small compared to the NO2, but I really need to know if the vapor quality is much better ot just about the same as the Vapir??? Actually I don;t feel any resistance in my draws when using the NO2, and I get lots of vapor and it’s smooth and tasty, at least the 1st draws. I heard that the Pax produces hot vapor and that’s not really good, is it??? Let me know about your findings and experience on the Pax vs the NO2….

        Have a good one, love your reviews…

        • Hey Franco,

          Excellent choice with the Plenty, I’m sure you’ll notice a huge difference.

          I do consider the vapor quality from the Pax to be slightly better than the NO2, but as you mentioned the main advantages are in it’s design, size and functionality.

          I never really brought my NO2 outside of my home, but my Pax I almost strictly use when I’m on-the-go.

          If you’re going to mainly be using it around the house I would say you probably won’t notice a huge benefit over the NO2, but if you want a good vape to carry around with you I do think the Pax is an awesome option.

          • Thanks for replying to my enquire.

            Actually I’ve decided to buy the Pax and it’s on it’s way as I type this message.

            I’m a new vaper, but I liked so much that I decided to buy 3 different models already, the NO2, Pax and Plenty.

            BTW, is it possible to use concentrates with the Plenty Vaporizer and if so, what’s the best way to do it, mixing it with herbs? I know you can’t using portable devices like the Pax and NO2, but maybe a home unit can do concentrates besides just dried herbs?

            I’ve just ordered a water tool kit for the Vapir NO2, have you ever used it? Do you think water can take a little bit of the taste that comes with the vapor? I got interested in that water kit cause it cools down the vape, so that’s good news, isn’t?

            I’ll let you know when I get my Plenty and Pax units and I’ll comment about my likings on it, can’t hardly wait to try them out.

          • Hey Franco how are you liking the Pax and Plenty vapes?

            Let me know if you’ve figured out how to use the liquid pad with the Plenty for concentrates.

  4. Hey Great review!! I love your videos btw, I’d recommend your videos to my friends.
    Anyways, I have a question,,
    When you vape with this, does smell leak from this device? If yes, which vape is the best for not leaking smell.
    Thanks!

    • Hey man I’m glad you like em!

      If I understand you correctly I think you’re referring to the “sidestream” vapor when you’re not actually taking a draw right?

      The vapor itself that you blow out will have a little bit of a smell from any vaporizer, but the Pax does a pretty good job of minimizing vapor leakage. Vapes like the Solo and NO2 leak a little more, and a vape like the Launch Box is probably the least because when you’re not actively taking a draw the heater is not engaged.

      • I have seen the head shops in the West Village here in Manhattan now are selling the PAX. Which is great because I can by screens for it there. Bought the PAX because of the review here and it has replaced by ExtremeQ. Plus, it was GREAT on a train ride across country!

        • I see them sprouting up all over the place in Milwaukee in various glass and tobacco shops. Seems like everyone wants to get their hands on the Pax. Love the reviews by the way, keep it up!

  5. First off, thanks a lot for all of this useful information! I am new to vaporizers all together and I am looking for something that will give me a nice euphoric high. I was really leaning towards the Launch Box, but after this review, the Pax seems to be the best option. Do you think it is worth it to purchase the Pax or should I just go with the Launch Box for $75.00 on amazon? I usually smoke alone around 4 nights a week for only a session or two at the most and I want something that is also portable. Also, my main goal is to use the healthiest method possible (vaporizing over smoking) because I am very active with weight training and cardio about 6 days a week. I have heard that the Launch Box can possibly turn to smoke if heated too long. If you can give me any advice on which would be the better purchase I would greatly appreciate it. I am willing to spend the extra money for the Pax if it gets the job done!

    Thanks,
    Draven

    • Hey Draven,

      The Pax is the vape I consider to be the best overall out of the portables. Compared to the Launch Box I’d say that it’s definitely easier to use and it’s way more advanced, and if I need a vape when I leave my house it’s the one I go for first.

      I do like the MFLB also, but in your case I’m leaning towards the Pax as a better option. It is true that you could possibly heat the herbs to point of combustion in the Launch Box, there’s definitely a little bit of a learning curve to it to really get a feel for how to use it.

      One other thing about the Pax that I think you’ll like is that you can choose between 3 temp settings: low, medium or high. So if you find that you prefer lighter vapor you can keep it on low, and if there’s times when you want to really vape your herbs hard you can bump it up to medium or high. You can get different vapor densities from the LB also but there’s no temp settings so you really have to pay attention when you’re using it to make sure you only keep the heater engaged as long as necessary.

      So overall, I’d probably go with the Pax.

      Thanks for posting!
      -Bud

  6. Hey Bud- how would you compare the Pax to the davinci? I currently have the iolite but was about to upgrade to the davinci to get away from the butane as well as ease of use. I mainly use as a solo vape but sometimes share with a group of people so I’m looking for something that’s easy to load and quick to get the job done. So what are your thoughts verse the davinci?

    • Hey Scott,

      If you’re torn between the Pax and the DaVinci, I would absolutely recommend the Pax as the better choice.

      I’m really not that crazy about the DaVinci performance-wise, I think the only real benefit it has is that it looks fairly cool.

      Overall the Pax is more advanced, easier to use, and produces more enjoyable vapor – definitely the one I’d go with.

      Stay up!

      • Just got both pax and davinci…pax is easier to load/unload, davinci hits bigger because no resistance when you inhale, pax feels like breathing through a clogged straw- not impressed at all with pax. Davinci works better!

        • Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree the DaVinci has less draw resistance, but I do not feel it produces bigger draws, and I find the vapor quality to be lower.

          Use them both for a few more weeks and let me know if you still feel the same.

          P.S. make sure the Pax oven is fully packed and you’re taking long, slow draws.

  7. Hey Bud,
    I have a few other quick questions because I am definitely going to get the Pax. It doesn’t take much for me to get the desired effect from actual smoking. How do I know when the herbs are all used up? Will the vapor just stop? Also, if I don’t use all of the herb that is contained in the oven during a session, is it okay to just turn it on later and finish? I am asking these questions because I am a beginner and just want to make sure I am not wasting anything.

    Thanks again,
    Draven

    • Hey,

      Yes it is perfectly ok with the Pax to shut it off mid-session and resume vaping later. This particular vape is one that works best when the chamber is full, so you’ll probably be doing this often.

      You’ll know the herbs are spent when it stops producing vapor, like you said. After you get used to it you’ll be able to tell just by the taste when it’s starting to near the end.

      Let me know if you have any more questions!

      -Bud

      • Bud,
        I actually do have one more question about the Pax. Do the herbs need to be ground up really fine like the Launch Box or does it not matter?

        Thanks,
        Draven

        • No prob, with this one it doesn’t matter too much how finely ground up the herbs are… generally most vapes may work a little bit better with a super fine grind but like you said it’s really only a big deal with a vape like the Launch Box, the Pax can handle regular size grinds.

          • So would a 2-piece Space Case grinder be good enough? I would like to get the 4 piece but it’s really expensive. Is there a really big difference?

          • When you say it is perfectly fine to resume using later, does this mean that a light user could potentially pack the chamber and make it last for 4-5 days? The use over these days would consist of 2-3 drags per day.

          • I would only recommend stopping and starting sessions once for best taste and performance, so two sessions total on a full packing.

  8. @Draven:

    Yes a 2-piece space case will definitely do the job, you don’t have to get the 4-pc they’re both really good.

    The 2-pc model just won’t have the pollen catcher but it’s no big deal, u can live without it if u don’t wanna spend that much.

  9. so if you had to choose between this and the arizer solo, which would you prefer? mostly in terms of vapor quality/potency.

    • Potency I’d say is roughly the same with both, but the Solo has a slight advantage with taste.

      Overall though if I had to pick one vape, I’d choose the Pax for being designed better and producing the same quantity of vapor.

  10. Just received my pax in the mail and was wondering how tightly to pack down my herbs for best use? also the mouth piece seemed to get pretty warm while pulling draws almost uncomfortable, is that normal? and I’m I better off taking fast hard pulls or long slow pulls on this device for the best vape?

    • Hey the Pax works best when you tightly pack the chamber, and by that I mean just push it down a little with your pinky finger so that there’s not a lot of empty space.

      The only part that gets a bit warm for me is the bottom lid to the oven, but that’s not a part you normally have to touch while it’s running… I haven’t had issues with the mouthpiece heating up. If it continues to be a problem for you contact Ploom and they should be able to help you out. If you do email them let me know what they say.

      With this vape I found that long slow pulls will yield the most vapor

      Stay up!

  11. Hey Bud,
    I need your vaping expertise on this. I’m new to the vaping game and I’m considering between a MFLB & the Pax. Smell-wise, which one produces less odour (while in use & just sitting there; I heard some people need to keep the MFLB in a smelly proof bag? is it true & is it the same with Pax)? Also, battery life-wise, which one would last longer? Pax or the two batteries with the MFLB? I’m guessing the Pax is also more convenient since you just have to charge it? And a overall which one is more efficient?
    Thanks for your time!

    • Hey Dean,

      I’d say they both produce roughly the same amount of odor while in use, but the MFLB will be a little smellier afterwards, it tends to build up residue a little faster. So after a bunch of uses you’ll probably want to keep it inside the tin it comes in or in a bag like you mentioned. The Pax doesn’t really smell too much after use, I don’t find that it needs to be kept inside anything.

      I get approx. an hour of usage from the Pax on a full charge, which is more than what you’ll get from two MFLB batteries. I typically vape about 2 trench-fulls with each fully charged launch box battery, so it’s not terrible, just not as long as the Pax.

      I do find the Pax to be more convenient and easier to use, but it does work best will a fully packed chamber. The MFLB can used with just a tiny pinch if you wanted to, so overall I’d say that it may be a little more efficient than the Pax, but they’re both good.

      Stay up!

    • bro. i had a magic flight box and i ended up selling it for the Pax. the smell is not to bad but recognizable and the two batteries suckkkkkkk. they last like 30 min together. YOu could always be chargin one while the toher one is in use but still……not as good as pax

  12. I got my Pax vaporizer in the mail on Thursday. I used it Thursday night with three other people on the highest heat setting and it destroyed everyone one of us. Then I used it last night with my wife and we got annihilated also. This thing is the most amazing invention ever. Seriously, it has exceeded my expectations. There is nothing negative I can say about it. This is the only vaporizer I own but it is also the only one I will ever need. It’s so easy and convenient that it’s scary. I also got a 4 piece titanium space case grinder which is awesome. Thanks so much for your help Bud. You are the main reason for both of my puchases. Again, for everyone reading this thread, this device is simply too good to be true and you will not be disappointed. Trust me! -Draven

  13. After three days, the spring loaded mouthpiece stopped working. It’s stuck in the body now, rendering the piece useless. This is all the more frustrating because, as soon as I pulled it out of the box and saw how it worked I remarked that I could easily see that becoming a problem in the future. I just thought it would take more than three days.

    • Don’t worry man this is why there is a 10 year warranty. This is the 1st generation of product. People who buy later won’t get the warranty. So we might have to deal with a higher than normal red ring type deal, but it won’t cost us a dime, just time.

      But then you have like 9 more years of free fixes!

  14. I have a question which on vaporizer i should get next. I already have the launch box, now i want either Pax by Ploom, or Arizer Solo. I know those are the best and i want you to tell me witch one i can get a better “high” off of.

    • Hey sup,

      In my opinion the strength of the vapor and the effects is just about the same with both units, they differ most in how they work and their portability.

  15. Hey Bud,
    how’s it going man! I know it seems like my questions never end haha. Is the high setting of 410 high enough to bring some of the bad effects from smoking into the vaper? I remember watching your video about temperatures and according to it 410 is too high. My main concern is to use the Pax at a temperature setting that will not have any bad effects that you would get from smoking. Please shed some light on this when you get a chance. Thanks man

    • Haha sup Draven,

      With most other vapes I would say a heat setting of 410 degrees is too high, but the Pax seems to be calibrated a little differently.

      Even at the highest heat setting (410) there is no combustion so there won’t be any bi-products from that in your vapor. At that setting it just really, really vapes the herbs a lot, and they will turn a darker brown than usual.

      I still think it’s safe to vape at that temp if you like how the vapor feels, but I personally have found that the default Medium setting is probably the best place to be, and is my personal favorite.

      Based on your concerns I would recommend vaping with it at the Low or Medium settings.

      Hope this helps!

      -Bud

  16. Quick question, I bought an MFLB, and love it. The Pax came out only a little after I bought the MFLB and now I really want a Pax, seeing as the Pax fixes my ONLY problems with my MFLB. Do I spend the money to upgrade, or go without? I can not get a tabletop, only portables.

    • Hey Wilson,

      Tough call… the Pax is definitely a better vape overall but the Launch Box is still one that I consider to be very good.

      Describe for me the main problems you have with your MFLB and I should have a better idea of if it’s worth it for you to upgrade or not.

      Thanks!

      • External parts. Mainly the batteries. Also, I don’t like the part where it lacks a heat control.

        Another question. Since the heating chamber is on continually, does that mean it smells more than the MFLB?

          • Thanks for the info – in your case I would say that yes, it is probably worth it for you to upgrade.

            The few things that bother you with the Launch Box aren’t an issue with the Pax, so you should really enjoy it.

            Plus, since you have the option of selling your LB and getting your money back it won’t be too much of a hit to upgrade.

            As for your question about the smell, the Pax actually does a good job of minimizing “sidestream” odor. Virtually no vapor escapes from the Pax during use but sometimes you may notice a light odor coming from the oven area (bottom of the unit) if you hold that part close to your face. After you’re done vaping though and the unit cools down it basically doesn’t have any odor at all – I say that because in my opinion the MFLB is one of the few vapes that builds up residue in many areas which can cause it to smell a little bit even when not in use.

            Hope this helps!

  17. Nice review man! I have the solo, and I was curious if you can get huge clouds from the pax like you can on the solo. What do you think? Also, if I’m using the pax with a small group of people will it get the job done?

    • Sup Jordan,

      In my opinion the Pax and the Solo are very similar in regards to how they feel when vaping and the quality & quantity of vapor produced. The Solo vapor might be a tiny bit tastier, but if you take a nice long pull you can get a good amount of vapor from either.

      Depending on how many draws each person is content with, I’d say that a single chamber packing is good for 1-2 people. If there are more people than that vaping you’ll probably have to re-pack halfway through the session, but luckily it’s a fast and easy thing to do.

  18. Your review on the Plenty gave me the confidence to make that purchase and I regret ABSOLUTELY nothing…its an amazing device. Ive owned the original iolite and the NO2 Vapir, both decent but not spectacular. However from what you are saying about this Pax it seems like the perfect compliment for my Plenty which remains at home. For someone like me who has owned portable vapes in the past, would you recommend this over the rest?

    • Hey sup,

      Very glad to hear you’re enjoying the Plenty, it’s one of my favorite.

      As you mentioned, most portables (like the ones you’ve tried) are decent but just can’t compare to good home units in vapor production. I’ve reviewed 9 portable vapes now and I would definitely say that overall, with every aspect considered, the Pax is on top.

      Now even though I think it’s the best portable, I want to mention again that the vapor production will not compare to a vape like the Plenty, but if you’re looking for a very good unit to take on-the-go, I highly recommend it, and I do think you’ll enjoy it more than the iolite or NO2.

      Hope this helps!

      • Sup Bud,

        It most certainly does help man. Much appreciated. Pretty sure I will end up getting one in the near future. Thanks!

  19. Hey bro,how ya doing?
    First,thank you for all the work you put in to get the knowledge out….we appreciate all that you do!
    Question,in your opinion would the Pax work with “regular”tobacco?
    I’ve done tons of research and want the Pax,do you think it can help me to kick the ciggy habit?
    Thanx in advance!
    Shane

    • Sup Shane,

      Doin pretty good, glad you dig the vids!

      While I haven’t really tested the Pax for that specific purpose myself I’m pretty sure it would work just as well.

      The main benefit of it of course when compared to a regular e-cig is that you can use actual tobacco in it, but I just want to make sure you’re aware of and cool with the fact that you’ll need to take slower, longer draws from this than you would normally.

      So if you don’t mind slowing down your intake a little bit I think you’ll like it a lot.

      • Thanks for the info! Now just gotta see who has them in stock.

        Side note…I’ve been following your posts for a couple months now,from learning to master my MFLB to deciding on which “hi end” vape to get next. Thanks man,I’ve learned a lot and saved even more….you fucking rule bro!

        Shane

    • Hey Nik,

      Yea I definitely like the Pax much better overall. Before I get into the main differences I just want to mention that buying vapes on ebay or amazon below the manufacturer’s set price is risky, because most mfg’s won’t honor the warranty if not purchased from an authorized dealer, so even though it might be a few extra bux it’s worth the peace of mind to buy from a legit store.

      The Pax has a more advanced design and is actually easier to use, even though the Wispr is quite simple itself.

      I like the vapor production and quality from the Pax better also, as I find the vapor from the Wispr to be a little on the hot side and not very strong.

      If you check out my Wispr page on this site you’ll see that a few people have posted comments saying that their Wispr or iolite stopped working after a few months to a year. I get a lot of comments from people about all different vapes but I get the most of those types of messages on the iolite products. It seems there’s a little bit of a reliability issue with them, and although the manufacturer seems to be pretty good at replacing faulty units under warranty (when purchased from an authorized dealer) they are based in Ireland so the shipping back and forth can be a little delayed.

      Hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.

      Stay up!

    • Sup Mike,

      Performance-wise they’re really close – the taste of the vapor from the Solo might be a tiny bit better, but to me they produce the same quantity of vapor with the same potency.

      Overall I think the Pax is cooler and more fun to use, and definitely more portable, but the Solo does have the one other benefit of being able to fit inside most water pipes for extra filtration, if that is something you’re into.

  20. Pax compared to the Plenty. The Plenty has a coiled cooling tube. A very nice feature. Any ideas for placing a cooling tube onto a Pax? Would it be hard to create a good seal onto the mouthpiece?

    • Hey sup,

      Two different beasts – both excellent, but for different purposes.

      Because of its design I can’t really imagine being able to make any modifications to the Pax, and I don’t think you need to, it would take away from it being extremely portable and discreet. But to directly answer your question, yes I think it would be difficult to get any kind of seal on the mouthpiece.

      The Plenty is awesome though and I love it, huge amounts of vapor that is super smooth.

  21. So if there was any protable vaporizer that you would recommend would it be the plax? If so can this be used discretely in a house without causing any type of lingering herb smell? I have to be really careful when it comes to using my “herbal blend” wink wink, I need to be sure that I am not leaving any smell behind at all whatsoever on my breath clothes, room, or hands. So would you recomend this product for that purpose? How effective would this be in doing al of mentioned above?

    • Hey sup,

      There are 3 portable vapes that I really like and recommend the most: the Pax, Solo & Launch Box, with the Pax being the highest rated out of the 3.

      When you vaporize with any vape there is less odor than smoking, and it dissipates much faster, but the smell is noticeable for at least a little while. It doesn’t stink up your clothes or hands like smoke would but it will smell up the room you’re vaping in for a little while until it clears out.

      Some people use spoofs or air fresheners to control odor when vaping indoors, and they generally work pretty well. However, if someone is in a nearby room you’d have to be extra careful for them not to smell it a little bit.

      • Hey so following up on what you posted, In my situation, I use to vape with the mflb in my room at night with my door closed, fan on and window closed and in the morning, there is no odor. Do you think this will also apply for the Pax? Thank You

  22. Hey Bud, your reviews are fantastic, i watched all of the portable vape reviews to help me choose one. I’m pretty sure that i’ve landed on the PAX, but i have one quick question. What is the maintenance like in regards to cleaning the vape, and how often does it need to be cleaned?

    • Hey Trace,

      Thanks I’m really glad u like em!

      The maintenance is low with the Pax, it should only need to be cleaned once every few weeks or months, depending on usage.

      Brushing out the oven after each use is good practice and when you do decide to do a thorough cleaning it’s fairly easy. All you do is remove the oven lid and mouthpiece (they both pop right off) and then you dip a single pipe cleaner into rubbing alcohol and stick it down into the main vapor tube. That’ll get rid of any residue buildup and since it has a good design there are few areas where that happens.

  23. Hi Bud!
    First, thanks for the awesome videos!
    I am looking to buy a portable vape in the near future. This one looks great, but price point is a bit high for me.
    Currently, my top contenders are the MFLB and Vapir Oxygen.
    MFLB is covered at length, here and elsewhere, but I didn’t find so much info on the Vapir Oxygen… Do you have any experience of it or other thoughts ?

    Thanks!

    • Sup fool,

      My pleasure! :P

      I don’t have first-hand experience with the Oxygen but I’ve used a few other Vapir products and my educated guess is that the MFLB is a better choice between the two.

      The things I like about the launch box are that it’s really small, it’s very quick (vaping in 5 seconds) and it works good with small amounts of herbs. Despite the low price point it’s also a very made product in my opinion.

  24. I recently picked up the Pax and I’m having great difficulty getting any vapor. I have tried a few different things from making sure the charge is good, trying different amounts of herbs in the oven, adjusting the temperature, and even trying different herbs all together. I am still unable to get any vapor to come out of the mouthpiece. To add to this big problem, during the first few uses, the heat would burn the inside of my mouth. I have since figured out how to avoid the issue with my mouth, but still no luck with any vapor. I have heard great things about the Pax and everyone says it works great, so I haven’t lost hope, but it is getting increasingly frustrating. I’m not new to vaporizers and have had success in the past with the Easy Vape and Whisper. Any suggestions to help aid my vapor woes?

    • Hey Tim,

      Sorry to hear you’re having some troubles, I have a few things you can try…

      First make sure you’re using dry herbs, if they have a lot of moisture left in them they tend to not vape as well. Also, try grinding them finer than you have been, sometimes you can get better results with some vapes with a finer grind.

      Lastly, try packing the herbs in the chamber tighter than usual, as sometimes it’s harder to get good draws with this one when it’s loosely packed. Also, make sure you take a nice slow, long draw. Your pull should last anywhere from 5 to 10 seconds with this one for best results. I’ve found it works best for me on medium heat, so try keeping it on that setting while you’re testing these different things.

      Let me know how you make out!

      • hey great tips with this response! i have the pax and am fairly new to vaporizers in general so this was great information, thanks!

        Also, to respond to the original poster, Tim, i would say that you have a defective unit and should contact Ploom to get an exchange or refund (you should go for the exchange, its worth it). I have had mine for a week now and even on the highest setting it hasn’t gotten close to burning my mouth or even feeling ‘hot’, just a nice warm. i guess moist herbs could heat the water and scald your mouth but otherwise, i would say its defective. To get the mouthpeice to work, try the cleaning method provided in the instructions, its worked really well for me so far. if you were using a damp blend before, it might take several pipe cleaners to get the job done.

      • I’ve had my PAX for 5 days now, and having the same issue. I’m using high grade herbs and when i take my drag it is not only hard to draw, but i do not seem to get much vapors. literary no smoke gets exhaled. I’m new to vaping so i wasn’t sure if no smoke is normal… my mouth piece also get warm. I’m thinking I may also have a defective unit.

        Should I be releasing smoke? I get below average [effects] and was expecting much more. especially with the nice herbs I’m using. hope you can shed some light. love the reviews they were very helpful when making my purchase.

        • Hey Brandon,

          Sorry to hear you’re having troubles!

          This vape does have some draw resistance, so it’s normal for it to be a little harder to pull.

          To get good vapor production you do really need to fully pack the herb chamber, and even push it down a little to make sure it’s tight in the oven.

          It also works best when your material is fully dried out and finely ground up.

          If you follow those steps and take a nice slow, long draw (about 10-15 seconds) you should get a good amount of vapor.

          Try drawing from it as slow as you can, if you pull too fast it doesn’t have enough time to thoroughly vaporize the material.

          To see if you’re getting any vapor try using it under a light, it should become very visible.

          Let me know how you make out!

          • Completely solved my problem! Packing very tight and taking light slow draws is KEY! You don’t even have to pack it all the way full, just push down really hard and make it compact seems to do the trick for me. Thanks so much, you are awesome!!!

  25. If you wanted to vape just a small amount of herbs, how does that work with a Pax, I keep reading that it has a large oven chamber comparative to the Launch Box. Thanks.

    • Hey Darin,

      Because of the chamber design of the Pax it actually works best when the oven is full, so if you only wanted to vape a small amount it is recommended to fill the chamber and just shut it off after a few draws, saving the rest for later (packing once for two sessions instead of packing a small amount twice). If you try vaping with only a pinch in there it might be a little harder to get good vapor.

      The oven door is magnetic and it stays closed until you want to open it, so even if you stick the vape in your pocket with some herbs left in there for later it is highly unlikely that they will fall out.

      The Launch Box on the other hand is a vape that does work just as well with only a tiny bit of herbs in the chamber, so that’s one of the benefits it has. Overall though the Pax is a much more advanced unit and I think it’s an excellent portable vape.

  26. Hey bud i got my pax on mOnday. And i barely get any visible vapor. I can feel the vapor during my pull but in peoples videos they get clouds and i dont get that. Althoigh i havent tried this with actual ‘herb’. Also after im done . A couple hours later my lips feel sort of burnt

    • Hey,

      Ok let’s see if we can troubleshoot this – I’ll explain how I use it to get good results and then you can compare to what you’re doing…

      I’m not totally sure what you mean when you say you haven’t tried it with actual herb but the first step is to fully pack the oven with herbs. This vape works best when the chamber is full and also when you pack them down a little bit to make it a tight fit. Also make sure your herbs are dry and finely ground, if they are too moist it could cause issues.

      After packing I turn it on and let it heat up until green, then my first draw or two is sort of just to get it going, and I don’t expect too much vapor yet. I usually leave it on the default medium heat setting.

      Then after it’s heated up and primed I start taking normal draws, anywhere from 5 to 10 seconds each. At this point I’ll see visible vapor on the exhale and I’ll get about 10-20 draws in total by the time it’s totally spent. My typical sessions last between 10 and 15 minutes.

      Depending on if you do anything differently you could get different results. You should be able to get some visible vapor by following those steps, but if you can’t let me know. Also about your lips feeling burnt I haven’t experienced that myself but I heard it a few times – I haven’t pinpointed the cause yet but I’m thinking it might be from either too much moisture in your herbs (which could cause hot steam to form) or your session could be going on for too long. I’ve noticed that if the Pax is left on for more than 15 minutes it can start to get pretty hot in certain areas.

      If these tips don’t help please let me know if there’s anything else you’re doing differently.

      Stay up!

  27. great review but i have one question about the video at 3:40 where the light changes colors during use. Mine has done that several times, both while heating, purple, and sometimes when its ready to use ‘green’. it mostly happens when its heating, the light just changes from purple to red/orange (just one color, i can’t tell if its red or orange though), if i move it around or if i’m holding it, it rarely happens but when i set it down or hold it really still, sometimes the light changes to that orange color and i cannot find anything online that explains the lights fully. i’m thinking it might have something to do with the oven/cap seal, like the light comes on when the cap is loose due to too much material in the oven or debris around the rim. any ideas?

    • Hey sup,

      In my video the flashing light thing that happens at 3:40 is what Ploom calls “party mode”, which happens at random and has no real function besides trippin you out. The vape still functions as it should the LED light just goes crazy for a little while.

      As far as I know there isn’t an indicator light for anything related to the oven lid, but do you think it could be the battery level indicator? Any time the Pax is on if you give it a little shake it will blink to let you know how much battery you have left, and the color it blinks varies depending on how much power is left. So if you shake it and the battery is close to being depleted it will flash an orange or red color.

      I’m not sure what else it could be… when you hold it still or set it down the only thing that should happen is it should go from green to blue to indicate it went into power-save mode.

      If what I said isn’t it I would suggest sending Ploom an email and describing what’s happening, they should be able to help.

      Thanks for posting!

      • just to follow up on my original question/problem, i have been working with Ploom to resolve the weird light issue/heating issue and the cause of the problem is an unstable connection between the body and the mouthpiece. When the connection becomes too weak for the sensor to detect, the light changes to the current heat temp color. In other words, the body thinks the mouthpiece is removed and acts accordingly by showing the temp color. The real problem is when the lid is off, the oven stops heating which means I have to babysit the Pax while I use it to make sure the connection is made and the light stays green, ‘ready to use’. Ploom said this has happened to other customers and first suggested a thorough cleaning of the body and the mouthpiece which proved ineffective. They are now sending me a new mouthpiece which they said has resolved the problem for almost all other customers. very happy with the Pax overall and the customer support is very nice. If the mouthpiece doesn’t work, i have no doubt they will repair/replace my Pax free of charge.

        • Hey thanks for following up I appreciate all the details. I’m glad to hear that Ploom was responsive and did the right thing, and also that they have an effective solution (hopefully). Definitely let me know if it doesn’t work or if any other issues arise, otherwise vape it up!

          • I have the same problem where the Pax thinks the lid is off and reads whichever solid color temp setting that the vape is currently set to (Yellow, Orange and Red). This happened after the first time gently cleaning my Pax. It’s time to call Ploom. Thanks for the post and advice guys!

  28. I’ve had my Pax unit for a few days now, and it is working very nicely. It takes about a minute to heat up and then it’s ready to go.

    Because there is a little bit of a restriction to the airflow while inhaling, I find that the best way to draw-in the concentrated vapors is similar to a beverage straw, and then alternatively take in a breath of fresh air.

  29. Hey there,

    Just wanted to thank you for all the info you put out there! I spent a lot of time trying to decide which vape to purchase as my first one and you saved me from 2 duds (the PALM and Puffit). I tried to think about it like getting your first guitar — you want something that’s not so expensive that it’s unreasonable, but not so cheap that you’ll grow out of it quickly.

    I changed my mind more times than I can count but I finally settled on the Pax. It was about $100 more than I wanted to spend (I was originally set on the MFLB) but I came to the conclusion that the extra cost was worth it for the upgrade. I wanted my vape to be easy to use straight out of the box, stealthy enough to use around the rents, and not a hassle to charge and in the end, the MFLB wasn’t meeting any of those goals in the long term. I’m not sure when I’ll be able to accommodate a home vape so in the mean time I wanted something that is on par with that.

    Switching to vape is something I’m looking at as a health investment (it’s the only way I can sleep at nice with that price tag) as I have asthma and smoking has not helped with that. I find it worth mentioning that the only thing you disliked about the Pax (draw resistance) is something that I was actually hoping for in a vape because it helps me distinguish when I’m running low on herb. So thanks for what you do, it was a really big help and folks like me really appreciate it! I can’t wait for my Pax to ship!

    Stay classy!

    • Hey Jackie,

      I’m really glad to hear that I helped point you in the right direction! Your rationale is spot on.

      You made a good choice with the Pax and I think that you’ll thoroughly enjoy it.

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts and keep in touch!

      -Bud

  30. Hey! I love your reviews bro! I bought the Pax in Blue today and it should arrive by this Friday! Im pretty excited to say the least!

    P.S. I’m sick of my incredibowl! I don’t know why it gets reviewed so highly by people, I think they suck and thats why I’m switching to the Pax!!

  31. Hey man,
    So I have read and watched A LOT of your reviews, especially in reference to my purchases. I bought my Extreme Q after looking up your info on it (I actually favored it over getting the Volcano, not due to just the price, but some of its distinct features as well. Remote is awesome as well as the look, and I personally LOVE the whip). Anyways I am looking to order the MFLB soon and just had a few questions. I know you say plug-in home vaporizer users can get spoiled by the much bigger draws than the portables. As I have yet to use a portable vaporizer, I was wondering how negligible this difference was. Will I still be able to get totally baked from the MFLB or will I have to pack a major bowl? I am used to using about .25 grams and getting annihilated by my Extreme Q… Also how long will the MFLB batteries last usually? I mean do you have to replace them every few months because that seems like it could be a little expensive after awhile. (This would be my only reason for considering the Pax) Although I plan to use it mostly through power cord and car adapter to save batteries, but I would still like to use it with batteries once or twice a day.

    In my situation then would you recommend the Pax or MFLB? My main concerns that effect my decision I believe would be effectiveness, longevity, and price pretty much. Don’t care too much about other things like taste or look, and both are pretty sleek and portable as well. So which of all the portable vaporizers is best in each of these categories in your opinion?

    Thanks so much man!!! Youre a real hero lol
    Ha anyway keep up the good work, God bless, and happy vaping.

    • Sup Dylan,

      I merged your posts and left out a few words just to keep it G-rated, hope you don’t mind.

      Glad to hear you’re enjoying the EQ!

      Your question is a good one – I personally think that there is a fairly significant difference between the vapor strength and density from a home unit and a portable. Portables tend to produce smaller draws that are less dense, so you’ll have to take more of them to reach the same level.

      So what I would say is that while both the Pax and the MFLB are great portable vapes I don’t think you’ll feel that they are as strong as what you’re used to. If you know what to expect I don’t think you’ll be disappointed, because they can both still get the job done, it’s just going to be a different experience.

      The advantages of the Pax are that it’s highly advanced, it’s very easy to use, and it’s very easy to carry around and conceal. The main downsides are the draw resistance (kinda hard to pull) and that it works best when the herb chamber is full, so it’s not great for using very small amounts and just taking a few draws.

      The MFLB is cool because it’s tiny, it’s cheap, and it’s really fast. Once the battery is engaged you’ll be vaping within 5 seconds. This vape works better with tiny amounts of herb, and you have the ability to take quick draws without waiting for it heat up. It doesn’t produce as much vapor as the Pax does, but in my opinion the vapor that it does produce is just as potent. The batteries should last about 3-6 months depending on how much you use them and your charging habits. Replacements are $10 for a 2-pack. The power adapter thing that they make for it is cool and it is obviously stronger than the batteries.

      They’re really two very different vapes, so if there’s any other questions you have about how they work definitely let me know, but overall I like them both.

      Stay up!

      • A pretty famous internet blogger who replies back to a random commentor in less than 12 hours. I gotta say man your quick and detailed response really blew me away1 I really appreciate it. There isnt a whole lot of information out there on the casual scene about vaporizers (I’m actually still the only one of my friends to purchase a vaporizer, and have way less smoking experience) so I think everyone would agree with me when I say that we are all very grateful for your wealth of knowledge and spreading that information on a wide scale. Otherwise we would have to depend on Yahoo Answers! Anyways that’s cool that batteries are well priced, so that solves that concern. I think I will buy the MFLB as it most suits my needs. It also has had multiple models to get most of the bugs out and I’ve heard its longevity is also well noted. Also while I do like the extremely sleek design of the Pax, something about the simplistic look and feel of the MFLB interests me a little more. I know you have also said that while perhaps mildly inferior to the Pax, it is still very reliable and of great value itself. All in all, I guess I’ll just have to get used to the less potent, but higher quantity toke characteristic of the portable vaporizer. No big deal though! I also don’t quite understand why more medicinal herb users don’t use vaporizers more often. It saves a lot of herb and is a much healthier alternative to smoking. While I do enjoy a couple joints or major bong rip from time to time, a completely embrace the tradition, it seems like vaporizing and edibles are definitely the better choice long term. Plus, correct me if I am totally out of place here, but I think that we may kind of be shooting ourselves and the herb movement in the foot by not evolving with current days technological health advances in the herb industry, however, I see vaporizing steadily gaining popularity. Afterall, it is medicine, I think we should treat it as such, and thus use responsibly. Anyways I again want to thank you, and will be looking forward to your future updates and advice. Lead us into the next generation as the “Tommy Chong” of safe smoking. God bless bro!

        • Hey man,

          No problem, it is my pleasure to help spread information about vapes, and it makes me glad when I hear from people like you who appreciate it!

          Even though it’s inexpensive the MFLB is a great little vape and I think you’ll like it. If at first you’re not getting the results you want let me know and I may be able to give you some tips to help. If you love it right away let me know also :P

          It would definitely be nice to see more people embrace vaping, but you know what after reviewing a bunch of vapes my opinion now is that it’s partly the vape manufacturer’s faults. It surprises me a little bit that out of all the vapes I have there’s only a handful that I use regularly and recommend. I think too many companies got caught up producing units that look cool, but lack the performance to really get people to keep using them.

          So whenever I have to post a bad review, which is not fun, I hope in the back of my mind that maybe it will help a future company decide to make their product a little better before releasing it to everybody. I think if there were more great vapes out there that were affordable a lot more people would embrace vaping – it’s slowly happening though!

          Vape it up!

          • Wow I hadn’t considered the manufactuerer’s role in all this, but that sounds like a solid point!. Although it seems that we only have better vapes to look forward to in the near future, especially if Ploom, Magic Flight, etc try to expand their product lines like Arizer and Stores & Bickel have. Anyways after much debating between the Pax, MFLB, and Solo, I decided to get the MFLB which came in a few days ago. As soon as I took it out of the box I was absolutely fascinated how simple yet amazingly cool it looked! I vaped it with a friend who was as blown away by the quality and convenience of it as I was. So much so that he offered to buy it from me. After sleepin on it, I decided to sell it to him since he was so interested. (plus he is a heavy smoker, so I was partially inspired to give him a healthy alternative) So immediately afterwards I began looking at your reviews again, and have now decided to go with the Solo. Don’t. get me wrong, I LOVED the MFLB for the short time I had it, but I realized that saving up a little more money for the Solo might be the better choice, so that I could have a portable with its own internal rechargeable battery. Another reason I decided to order the Solo as well was because I also have the Extreme Q, and thus have pretty much fallen in love with Arizer, so I figured I’d put my trust in them one more time. Nothing against the Pax either, but as I said, I kind of already have developed a trust with Arizer, much like your reviews lol. Anyways when the Solo comes in, I’ll be sure to let you know how I like it. Also this is unrelated a bit, but I am also interested in saving some money to buy a Plenty at the end of the year, and was wondering if you had any advice or words of caution for me before I do. Hearing from you and so many other people how hard it hits, this seems to be the best whip-style vape (which I slightly favor over the bag system) on the market so far right? And yes, I know it looks totally ridiculous, but I absolutely love it!!! Vaping out of a power drill/Mars gun looks incredibly badass

  32. Hey Bud, I have enjoyed your reviews and agree 100% with your critiques re volcano, the plenty and the pax. Including the magic 365 for the Volcano, 6 for the plenty and the medium setting for the pax. I also own a vivape which I find belongs in the top tier of vaporizers. I am anxiously awaiting a mivape delivery. please review both as your videos are so Steve Jobs like.
    Thank you and stay strong man!

    • Hey Butch,

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and for the review request!

      I have the viVape on my list of future possibilities and was hoping to get my hands on one soon. Let me know what you think of the miVape

      Stay up!

  33. @Dylan:

    Cool man, the Solo is a great vape, I think you’ll like it, but definitely let me know for sure.

    Ah the Plenty, one of my favorites. That is a really excellent vape. Aside from the Volcano I think it’s definitely the next best vape, which would also make it the best whip style vape I’ve tried so far overall.

    It’s easy to use, it produces monster draws on high heat, the vapor is very smooth and tasty, and it stays very clean even after multiple sessions.

    It also has a huge herb chamber so it can used by yourself or with a group of up to 4 people without needing to be re-packed.

    There are two downsides to consider though… One is that even though it’s more efficient than smoking it does go through herbs faster than most vapes. This is because it’s amazing at vaping the herbs and the huge draws it produces, so I personally don’t mind it at all. The other thing is that once you pack it and heat it up you really need to vape the whole thing in one session. Not a problem for most people, but I do recommend committing to a full session to get the most of out it and have it be the most efficient it can be.

    Storz & Bickel really knows what they’re doing, both of their vapes are bonkers in my opinion.

    • Haha “bonkers”! That’s awesome man.
      I’m probably going to be growing my own personal supply soon (legal here in Cali [up to 6 plants anyways] with my card) so I don’t think the fact that the Plenty uses a little more herb will deter me too much. Ugh all this talk about it, I’m ready to go out and buy one today!!! But I think I’ll probably have to wait until Christmas (Gotta love vaporizers, especially free ones aha!). Anyways, still waiting on my Solo, but I’ll let you know how I like it once it comes in. I’m sure it’ll be just as great as I’m anticipating, your advice hasn’t let me down yet!! Also man, don’t know if you’ve thought of it before, or don’t like the idea, but I think you should start a donation fund. Then hopefully all us fans could raise you enough money to get and review like every vape on the market!! Haha anyways lookin forward to hearing from you again as always. Thanks!

  34. So I got the Arizer Solo and have been exclusively vaporizing out of that for the past 3 days. I have to say I pretty much agree with just about everything you said about it, but I would have to say that the Solo hits really hard compared to the Magic Flight Launch Box, and I actually believed it hit a little harder than even the Extreme Q (But maybe this is just me being inexperienced or something with the other, more-complex vapes). After receiving the Solo in the mail, I proceeded by cutting and inserting an Extreme Q spare screen into the bowl of the straw stem (Which I did, and suggest doing, due to too finely grounded herb being shot through the holes in the bowl of the straw stem and straight into my mouth! lol.) After this simple fix, I would say that this has quickly become my favorite vape I have yet to try or have seen, besides the Stores and Bickel’s two powerhouses of course. And I also think that the Solo would be the perfect portable in combination with the Plenty at home. I could be buzzing pretty hard all day long! (Not that I plan to do that too, too often). I do, however, agree with you about the draw resistance on the Solo. It does seem a bit much. But I kind of got the hunch that after twisting and turning the stem to stir up the bowl, maybe there is something I’m not doing 100% efficiently. I am going to contact Arizer and ask them if there is a way to get more consistently easy draws, maybe by twisting and pointing the straw to the right angle, or taking a certain type of draw, or something. I’ll let you know if I hear anything back, but either way as of right now I would say that I view the Arizer Solo as the best overall vape over both the MFLB and Extreme Q. But then again that’s just my crazy opinion lol! Oh yeah, I almost forgot! What is YOUR favorite temperature to use on the Solo? I have experimented with 4, 5, 6 so far feeling that 5 was the highest temp to go before herb starts getting burnt or combusting or something, (That might also be my imagination too) but let me know if you are aware of which temperature, if any starts burning the herb, but I wouldn’t be surprised if all the preset temperatures are safe. Anyway, until next time, take it sleazy! haha

    • Hey man I’m really glad to hear you’re enjoying the Solo, it’s definitely a good one and one of my faves.

      It definitely produces a different kind of draw than the MFLB does, and I agree that it’s better in some ways but there’s def somethin about the launch box that I like also bc I keep using that one too, I think it’s the quickness. But hey with vapes it’s all about personal preference so if you’re diggin the Solo roll with it man!

      With the Extreme-Q I can get bigger draws and there’s very little resistance, but for a portable the Solo does a great job and the vapor has a great taste. I rate them the same overall bc I think they both have their advantages just in different ways.

      You’re dead on with the temperature – I normally vape with it set on 5, any higher than that I’ve found is too much. Sometimes I’ll go down to 4 if I’m in the mood for cooler vapor but 5 is usually the number.

      Vape it up!!

  35. Bud, thanks for the valuable information. You helped me make my mind about what to invest in next: a Plenty and a Pax. I was about to place an order on VW but I noticed that the Pax’s are backordered. Do you happen to know what the wait time is? Also, is VW an authorized reseller for both products? I don’t want to miss on the manufacturer’s warranty. Thanks for the info, dude. Keep making us informed members of society; knowledge belongs to the world.

    • Hey Jensey,

      Great choices!

      I’m not sure exactly how long the wait currently is but I’m pretty sure they’ve been getting shipments every few weeks, so I wouldn’t expect it to take much longer than that.

      Yes VW is an authorized dealer for all the vapes they sell including the Plenty and the Pax, and I got both of mine from there.

      Stay up!

      • Bud, I got my shipment yesterday and I haven’t done anything else but party with my new Plenty and Pax. The Plenty is a beast and works beyond expectation. The Pax is a cool, sleek gadget and very convenient to have on the go (meaning when one’s not home power tooling with the Plenty).

        However, I have three particular comments that I would like to share about the Pax:

        1) It gets HOT!! Is it just me? And I mean ‘uncomfortably hot’. The only place that I can manage to hold it is above the X, which seems awkward.

        2) I did not find the oven big in size, which makes me wonder about the quantity of herbs that you’re packing into the oven. Also, how tight are you packing it?

        3) When I slowly rotate my Pax, I hear something loosely clinging inside it. Do you feel it too?

        Overall, both vapes are amazing, with the only drawback being the temperature of the Pax. I think I’m going to measure the surface temperature with a laser thermometer. I bet it’s ridiculously high.

        Anyways, take care and keep’em coming!

        • Nice!

          Glad to hear you’re enjoying them.

          About the Pax:

          Hmm, the only part that gets hot on mine is the bottom oven cover, the rest only gets slightly warm. You may want to email Ploom and check with them, I’m sure if something is wrong with your unit they’ll replace it for you.

          Believe it or not it actually has a fairly large herb chamber compared to most other portable vapes, but I can understand why that would be surprising (especially if the Plenty if your other vape) :P

          This unit works best when the oven is full, and also when the material is packed down a bit. I would say to experiment on your own to find what works best for you, but definitely make sure the chamber is full and packed down at least a little bit.

          That sound you’re hearing should be normal – there’s a ring sensor on the stem that sticks out from the mouthpiece and I think that’s what you’re probably hearing.

          Let me know how you make out and if your issues get fixed quickly.

          Vape it up!

  36. Hey Bud-

    I recently got the pax… first off this thing is unbelievable best investment i’ve ever made towards cannabis, on a side not i would like to ask about your mouthpiece… my mouthpiece seems to be getting stuck and is very diffcult to turn on( open the mouthpiece) ive tried to clean the downstem to the mouthpiece and the tube where the vapor comes up i cant seem to slide anything in to the slit the mouthpiece sits in…. do you have any suggestions please Help Me !

    Thanks

    -Jon

    • Sup Jon,

      Glad you like it, but sorry to hear you’re having an issue with the mouthpiece!

      Do you think it’s sticking because of buildup or do you think it might be defective?

  37. Bud, your review tipped the scales in favor of the Pax. Mine arrived this morning and not three hours later I took a quick taste before my session tonight (I couldn’t wait to try my new toy!) Medium setting seems best for me. I bumped it up to the highest and got a little combustion, or maybe it was just a stronger vapor than I’m used to.

    The mouthpiece doesn’t get hot and the vapor was a lot smoother than I expected, and a heck of a lot smoother than my MFLB.

    Thanks for the reviews! Love em.

  38. bud, i read this review and bought the pax. love this damn thing. this might be a stupid question but when shut off and herb in oven can you put it on the charger? love your reviews.

  39. Hi, I am trying to decide between portable vapes. I see that you have not reviewed the ThermoVape T1 but it is $50 less than the Pax and uses external rechargeable batteries rather than internal. Do you have any experience with the T1 that you could comment on? Would you ever consider doing a review on it? I do like the Pax but I am hesitant because you cannot, at least I believe, replace the battery. My main concern is eventual battery capacity decreasing over time similar to a cell phone or other rechargeables. Thanks!

    • Hey Keith,

      I’ve had the ThermoVape T1 high on my list of future vapes to review but I held off buying one recently because word has it they’ll be releasing an updated T2 model sometime in the near future. When it becomes available I definitely plan on getting one to make a review.

      Thanks for the request!

  40. Hi Bud,

    First off let me say thanks for running such an awesome site. You have created hands down the best resource for people wanting to research more about vapes on the web – bravo dude!

    My question is about the Pax versus tabletop vaporizers. My wife and I have finally decided to make the switch to vaporizing. I really like the looks of the Pax, it seems like it’s the best portable vaporizer right now. However, I was wondering how the Pax stacks up to tabletop vaporizers around the same price range. We almost always medicate at home, so I’m not sure the portability would be a huge benefit to us. If you were looking to spend $250 on a vaporizer and you could only pick one, which one would you recommend?

    Thanks!

    • Hey Alex,

      Thanks for the kind words, I greatly appreciate it and I’m really glad you found my content helpful.

      Good question – the Pax is an excellent portable unit, and I like it a lot, but I mainly use it when I’m on-the-go.

      When I’m home I’ve found that there are better options for stronger vapor.

      For just about the same price I like the Silver Surfer vape a lot. I would advise against going for a cheaper unit like the Extreme-Q, it’s just not as high quality.

      The SSV is very well made and produces strong, great tasting vapor. If I had to choose one home unit, and I couldn’t spend more than $300, that’s the one I would stick with.

      I like the Plenty and Volcano more but the price jumps a bit. So my recommendation is to definitely check out the SSV.

      Let me know if you have any questions about it!

  41. WARNING: The Pax is a piece of junk. It does NOT flow vapor into the mouthpiece as advertised causing the user to suck hard on it, which results in the mouthpiece heating quickly and burning the users lips. The company does NOT stand behind the product with a 30-day money back guarantee.. and there’s a reason for it.. It’s a scam of a product.

  42. hey bud

    i really like your reviews and i would just like to ask a quick question…well i have had a collapsed lung in the past so i stopped smoking..but i really enjoy herb and heard that a vaporizer would be way better healthwise and that it gets you the desired effect of cannabis so im willing to drop 250 on a portable vaporizer as long as its effective so my question is do u think the pax is good healthwise like does it produce 100 vapor and no combustion occurs? well i would greatly appritiate it if you got back with me soon about this because its a great concern of mine well thanks!!

    • Hey sup,

      The Pax does produce high quality vapor with no combustion. If you use it on the high heat setting it’ll brown your material pretty dark but the light and medium heat settings work great and it evenly vaporizes the entire load.

  43. Hey Bud, I recently purchased the Pax because I been looking for an alterative to smoking. A friend of mine brought the easy vape to my house to try out an it was horrible. i seemed like i was wasting alot of my herb. Reading through a bunch of your blogs im not sure if i made the right purchase with the Pax. I bought it with the intention to use it with 2 to 3 of my friends. Im starting to think I should have went with the volcano or the extreme Q. What do you think? Also do you think the extra cost for the volcano is worth paying or should I go with the extreme Q if I decided to make another purchase. Thanks

    • Hey man,

      I’m not a big fan of the Easy Vape either…

      I do think the Pax is an excellent portable vape and it has a large enough herb chamber for use by a couple of people.

      In general though, portable vapes tend to produce lighter vapor than some of the better home units.

      If you’re going to use the vape only at home you might be better off with a larger unit to get stronger vapor draws. However, if you want the flexibility to take the vape with you on-the-go then the Pax is currently your best choice.

      When I’m home I typically prefer to use either the Volcano, Plenty or SSV, but any time I want to take a vape with me somewhere else I pick up my Pax.

      I do think the Volcano is worth the extra cost over the Extreme-Q. The EQ is good and does the job but the V provides a better experience overall in my opinion. I rarely use my EQ anymore with the better options available, but there was a time I used it on a regular basis and got decent results from it.

      Hope this helps!

  44. Hi Bud,
    Some questions.
    What does the 10 year warranty includes?
    I have noticed you wrote that it’s working best when chamber is full.
    Can I smoke [concentrates] with it? Where I come from its kind of rocky and not liqiud.
    If I put a small piece in chamber (a piece not bigger then 5-7% of chamber) just to make 2 puffs in between. Will this still do the job?

    The fact that the pax is very descreet is the most important for me.
    Thanks inadvance.

    • Hey,

      I’m pretty sure the 10 year warranty covers anything except for the battery – batteries in general are hard to warranty because there are so many variables that affect their performance over time.

      This vape is designed for use with dried botanicals, I would be cautious trying anything else in there.

      It’s designed to work at peak performance with a full chamber, and I do recommend you fully pack it every time. Even if you only want a few draws it’s better to fully pack the chamber and only vape some of it, saving the rest for later.

      If you only put a tiny bit of material into the Pax you won’t get the best results, and you might have issues with the mouthpiece getting hot.

      Overall I rate the Pax the highest so far out of the portables I have, and I find it to be very easy to use and very discreet. But, if you really want a vape that works well with just a very tiny pinch of herbs that would be the Launch Box.

  45. Love your site, thanks so much for sharing all of your info!
    Just a quick question. I want to buy my first vapo – but have a question…
    I don’t smoke all that much, but want to know what the best bang for the buck would be. I’m tossed between the portable Pax, and the Herbal Aire…
    I wouldn’t be packing it on a daily basis, and you said that the pax need to have a bit more to make it worthwhile, but, what is the efficiency of the pax? I like the idea of having a portable unit, but I’ve heard that the H.A is actually better than the Volcano in some aspects!
    Thanks for your time man!

    • Hey thanks!

      The Pax is very efficient but it does need to be fully packed for the best results and performance.

      Is portability a big concern for you?

      If you’re only going to use the vape at home then you may find that a home unit produces stronger vapor. This goes for all portables though.

      However, if you want the ability to carry it around it really is the best option right now.

      I haven’t personally tried the HA yet, I’ve heard decent things about it, but I doubt it is better than the V overall.

      A vape like the Pax will also be a lot easier to use than most others.

      Stay up!

  46. Thank you man. Lastly, where would you suggest i purchase the volcano from. There are so many different sites to buy it with the price ranging and which one would you suggest. Solid valve or Easy valve???

  47. Nevermind. I see the link on your page. Your the man bro. Keep enlightening! One final question. Do you know how vaping actually compares to smoking from a health standpoint?

    • Cool man glad u found what u needed!

      There have been various studies done that show how vaporizing eliminates a variety of harmful and toxic compounds.

      Nothing formal was ever done by the FDA or anything but most people agree that vaping is much cleaner and healthier.

      Stay up dude!

  48. hey i was just wondering if you use the same amount of herb out of this and a [water pipe] which you think would get you more medicated

    • It’s hard to say…

      I think that the end result is basically the same, it’s just a different experience while you’re doing it.

      I personally prefer using vapes over water pipes.

  49. I love my Pax… had some issues smoking lower grade out of it, but everything is always swell after a good cleaning. The bowl is good size. Defiantly believe it’s very easy to burn the entire bowl everytime you use it. What I mean by that is it’s very hard to put down once you start vaping. I went from smoking a Helix Bong to the Pax and I would say the high compares greatly. (even with reggie may take more) Dro is another story completely. One bowl. You’re pleased. Can you imagine what work is like for me? My occupation isn’t even important, but break and lunch time is great. I even save gas. No more going home to get high. The fact that everyone is always confused when they see it leaves you with no paranoia. Money well spent.

  50. I wanna buy this vape because most things I’ve seen about it, including your review and a co-worker who has one, are always positive. I usually smoke blunts or joints, and the discreetness of this vape is a big deal to me. But I just have a few questions. Like, switching from smoking to vaping, especially with a portable vape, will the experience be that much different? And does vaping use more/less/the same amount of herbs as smoking does? Also, I read that people have problems with the mouthpiece getting stuck or too hot, have you encountered any of those problems?

    • Sup David,

      The experience will definitely be different than what you’re used to, but I think it’s in a good way. It’s going to feel lighter and cleaner, but generally the end result is fairly similar. When you first start vaping it may seem very different but after you get used to it I’ve found that it’s pretty much just like any other method as far as the effects.

      The main thing that I think takes some getting used to is taking longer, slower draws when you vape. When you smoke you don’t realize how quickly you draw but with vaping you need to slow everything down a bit to get the best results.

      Generally vaping uses less material. The Pax is a vape that works best when it’s fully packed, and it can hold a good amount of material, but it’s still more efficient.

      I haven’t experienced any of those issues with the mouthpiece and after looking into it I’m pretty sure the deal is that the mouthpiece only gets hot if you try using it when the chamber isn’t completely full. Some people try to use it with just a pinch of herbs but it’s not a vape that works well like that, it really needs to be packed full to not only get the best results, but also to avoid any issues like the mouthpiece heating up.

      Stay up!

      • Hey! Great review. Just purchased one.

        A few questions, the first you might not be able to answer:

        1) What would you recommend in terms of the best vape for bubble?

        2) I’m having similar issues with the mouth piece sticking… But it may be due to me trying to vape less than a full oven chamber. Any idea why this would happen?

        3) On that note, are there any other vapes you would recommend for vaping just a pinch? Also, maybe just a little bit of bubble?

        Overall, I like the Pax, but as you say the chamber IS big, and I ideally wanted to use something for a dab of bubble, or a few hits of flowers….

        • Hey Aaron,

          Sweet, here’s my input:

          1) It’s not currently my area of expertise but I’ve heard the Persei is one of the best vapes for oils/concentrates. Unfortunately I don’t know many details beyond that at this point in time.

          2) Definitely fill the chamber all the way up for best results and to avoid issues, but your mouthpiece sticking is most likely due to residue buildup. Try using a small interdental brush like I show in my most recent Pax video and cleaning around all the mouthpiece connections. Make sure you warm up the vape first then dip the brush in alcohol and scrub every metal surface you see. If thoroughly cleaned this really should stop the mouthpiece from sticking.

          3) For vaping small amounts of material I recommend the MFLB, it seems to perform the best for that purpose. However, you can’t put concentrates or oils in there.

          • VapeCritic! Thanks for your reply… It’s been a few weeks of using the Pax, and since I’m completely new to vaping, I thought I’d ask a few more questions…

            1) I can’t really sit and milk hit after hit, even though the light stays green… I would imagine only a higher end, not portable device would allow that?
            2) The top of the chamber, closest to the patch that covers the oven, doesn’t seem to vape as much as what’s at the bottom… Any thoughts?
            3) Any sort of concentrate just gums up the works… Has this been your experience?
            4) Lastly, given that when I smoke I’m used to reducing any herb to ash, what are flowers supposed to look like when they’re good and spent in a vape?

            Thanks again for your responses. This is a great site!

          • Hey Aaron,

            Generally desktop vapes do produce more vapor than portables, but you should be able to get a decent amount from the Pax if you have it packed right.

            Grind your material up real fine, fully dry it out, and pack it down inside the oven.

            The material closest to the oven cover is the last part to vaporize, but after a full session of ~20 draws the whole chamber should be vaporized fairly evenly.

            It’s not really made for use with concentrates so it’s tough to avoid that issue, the only thing I could recommend is using less concentrate and mixing it in well with flower material.

            Spent herbs from this vape will be a very dark brown, this is something that varies a little from vape to vape.

  51. I discussed the Pax with a smoke shop in Southern California a little over a week ago and was told by the owner that the company made modifications to the device to increase the ability to more freely take in a full draw. His shipment had been delayed for weeks and he had spoken at length directly with company representative who so advised him. They had finally just arrived in mid-October and he got one out and showed it off to me. The owner had tried it out with something, not sure what, and seemed to feel they had improved this issue and he really liked it. I can’t confirm this any further but perhaps someone can check with the company.

  52. Hey Bud,

    Firstly, thank you for this amazing website, it is thanks to this site that im going with the PAX over the solo. I just have a few questions as to the shipping and how tightly to pack the herbs. When ordering the PAX from Ploom directly, do you know how long the shipping takes from the US to Canada? And when you say tightly packed herbs, is there a standard amount? Like a weight that i could always use for optimal results?

    Thanks for your time and this amazing website,
    Chris

    • Sup Chris,

      Really glad you found the site helpful. I’m not sure about the shipping time to Canada or the exact weight for best results, but as long as the chamber is fully packed and your material is making contact with all sides of the oven you should be aces. After using it a few times you’ll be able to gauge the right amount.

      Stay up!

  53. Hi, first of all thank you for reviewing all those vaporizers.
    I was wondering if you already tried the Thermovape T1 and if you actually think the Pax vaporizer is better than the Thermovape T1?
    If this is not the case thank you anyway for your job your site is very helpful for me.
    Greetings from Switzerland,

    • Hey,

      I haven’t tried a T1 but I do plan on getting one of their newer models that they should be releasing in the near future.

      I appreciate the request!

      • Ok great, and thank you again for your reviews and so i’m a big fan of vaporisation and it s always a pleasure to come have a look on your website,
        Keep the good work on

  54. Hey Bud,

    I have been using the Arizer Solo for a few months now and my only negative thing I can think of the Solo is it is a bit bulky on the road and after watching your PAX review I am planning to get the PAX few weeks from now. Question is can it keep up with the Solo when it comes to vapor density? I have seen online demos and heat up times looks really quick even faster than the Solo. BTW I haven’t seen any Concentrates Vape review here in your site.

    • Sup RJ,

      I think the vapor produced by the Solo may be slightly denser, but I think overall there are more advantages to the Pax which is why I rate it a little higher. It’s not a huge difference, and I like them both a lot. Heat times are roughly the same also, usually 60-90 seconds.

      As of right now I focus mainly on herbal vaporizers but some time in the near future I’ll probably expand and cover models for concentrates also.

  55. Hey thanks for the review Vapecritic

    I was wondering if this unit that could primarily be used as my only vape. I want a vape that’s portable but good enough to be the only vape I use at home too. Does it have that kind of potential?

    • Hey Mike,

      For me personally I really only use the Pax when I’m on-the-go, but that’s mainly because I have better options at home. I think that it does have the potential to be a good only-vape because it does have a lot of good things going for it, and it’s enjoyable to use. The draws may not be as large or potent as desktop units but it’s definitely not puny either, you’ll just have to take more draws with the Pax to reach the same level that you would with fewer pulls from a good home unit.

  56. Ran into the sticking mouthpiece problem. Deal is the resin can accumulate on the bottom of the metal tube of the mouthpiece. I can only imagine nearly everyone has run into this as it was merely three ovens and I thought I’d never get it fixed.

    I found the solutions for me. First, don’t charge it while hot after roasting some sticky icky. The bowl just let the goodness drain into the unit since you change it oven up. Second, take the mouthpiece out and use copious amounts of rubbing alcohol from a cleaning swab on the metal tube of the mouthpiece and the ring it enters in the unit.

    Worked for me and it was the only draw back. TOTALLY LOVE THIS THING! Thanks for the vid which helped me choose.

      • Hey Bud!

        Thanks for the great reviews and videos. I found your site and quickly became dependent on your reviews when selecting my first vape. I went with the PAX and am LOVING it. There is only one issue…. the mouthpiece has started to stick. I have had the pax for about two months- no problems. I thought it was easy to use and quickly got the hang of it. I use my pax as my main/only vape, nightly- usually one full oven and some weekends I use it a few times per day. I am using high grade medical herbs… slightly sticky- maybe this is the problem. It took me a while to get the hang of the mouthpiece when I wanted to turn it off but now I have just the right touch. The new issues are 1) the colors change constantly, it will go through a series of red, orange colors while heating up and then go green, and continue changing colors through out my vape session. 2) the mouthpiece is sticking. Usually it just click it up and click it down- no i press it and nothing happens- I have to stick my thumb nail in the side and try to pull it up… like there is glue or something holding it down. The same thing happens when I want to turn it off, I press it down and its really tough to get it down and then even harder to make it click in place and turn off. 3) I’ve noticed it getting hotter than usual the last few nights. Usually it gets warm on the bottom but lately it has been really hot all the way up. Do you think I need to clean it before each use or is it a bigger problem? Is this not the right device to use for daily sessions for one person at home for the most part? Help! I love my pax!

        • Hey what’s up,

          Glad to hear you’re enjoying the vape.

          The issues you described are most likely caused by residue buildup inside the unit.

          The easiest way to keep it gunk-free is to give it a light cleaning every 3 or 4 sessions.

          First warm up the vape for a minute, then remove the mouthpiece, then using an interdental brush (shown in my Pax vape session video) dipped in rubbing alcohol simply scrub all the metal connections.

          It’s important to get every surface, and the tiny brush is the perfect size to get in all the crevices. It’s also very important to clean it while the unit is warm, if you try scrubbing when it’s cold you’ll barely get any residue to come off.

          You may also want to clean out the vapor path, which is done using a pipe cleaner dipped in alcohol. It fits right down the main vapor tube coming from the oven and it’ll scrub out any built up residue inside.

          To slow down the rate of buildup you can try drying out your material more before packing the oven, by laying out your grinds on a sheet of paper for 15 mins or so.

          • Thanks Bud!

            The issue is fixed. It was indeed residue building up causing the mouthpiece to stick. I have started grinding enough herb for a few sessions and then letting it air out for a bit- sometimes even over night… Drying the herbs as well as cleaning the pax every 3-5 times (depending on the use) has fixed all of the issues. Thanks again!

  57. Hey bud, so im really diggin the pax but i would like it to work for my situation. Regarding to the odor, I use to use the mflb in my room at night with the door closed, fan on and window closed and it disapated by morning. I was just wondering if the pax would work out the same as the LB. Thanks

      • Thanks so much and I believe the reason why people are complaining about the mouthpiece being too hot can be that there not putting enough herb in the chamber which could cause it to heat up faster and I don’t think you have any trouble with the mouthpiece because you probably pack a full chamber everytime.

  58. First off, let me state that I’m interested in a portable vape more than a desktop vape for specific reasons. And I know you probably already answered this before, but I’m worried the pax won’t get me stoned enough since I’ve actually never “vaped” before and don’t know what its like, so before I order it, how nice of a high does it actually get you with a .5 of herb or even more? And I’m also wondering if the pax produces a smell which is extremely noticable, for example if I were toking in my room and someone walked in, would the smell come off strong and is the smell easy to be aired out? and I’m also wondering if it can be shared between 4 people to actually get stoned with? Thank you, and I love your reviews! I hope to be vaping soon!

    • Sup Mike,

      If you’ve never vaped before there is a short period of getting used to it regardless of which vape you choose. Most people agree that once you get the hang of vaping you can get pretty close to the same level as other methods.

      Vaping does produce some odor but generally vapor only smells half as strong as smoke and it dissipates or goes away twice as fast. It’s fairly easy to control the odor but it is possible someone could smell it if they walk in mid-session.

      Sharing it with 4 people would be a bit of a stretch with any portable vape, as most are really only good for 1 or 2 people, Pax included.

    • It’s pretty efficient and it doesn’t waste much material at all, however it does perform best when the chamber is packed full so you can’t really use it with just a pinch of herbs.

  59. Hey dude, first off, your videos are fantastic, please keep them coming!

    I have my heart set on the pax but unfortunately in good old Scotland i cant get my hands on this fine device yet, what would be the next best portable vape you would recommend?

    I also really want to purchase a volcano after trying it in amsterdam, would you say there is much difference between the classic dial one and the digital one other than price?

    • Sup Jamie,

      Thanks!

      The next best portable I would recommend would be the Arizer Solo, are you familiar with that one at all?

      It’s well-built and produces great vapor, it just has some draw resistance and is a little bulky to carry in your pocket.

      Great choice with the Volcano – the main difference between the Classic and Digit models, aside from the screen and price, is that the digital model keeps a slightly more precise temperature throughout your session.

      The heating element turns on and off while the unit is powered up – the Classic model maintains a temperature that is +/- 9°F what the dial is set on, and the Digit model only fluctuates +/- 2.7°F.

      This doesn’t really make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things though while you’re vaping.

  60. Thanks so much for putting together this site! I was getting really disappointed that their isn’t much information out there until I ran into your site! Now to my purchase lol. I bought a PAX from ploom directly and recieved it on Friday. I’m having an issue with the mouthpiece not staying in the locked/down position and I wrote ploom about it not to worried there, I’m sure they will help me resolve it. It worked flawlessly minus the mouthpiece taking 8 to 10 attempts to stay down/shut it off after use. I wasn’t getting any vapor at all so kept hitting it over and over and finally realized I’m getting totally stoned. should you always see vapor when you exhale? I’m going to try packing it even tighter than I did the first time and see if that makes the difference. Keep up the good work man!

    • Hey sup,

      Great choice with the Pax!

      The mouthpiece can definitely be a little tricky in the beginning, because if you push it too far down it won’t lock into position.

      Have you tried closing it really slowly to feel exactly when it catches? It’s def possible that something could be wrong but a few other people have mentioned this issue and it ended up just being from them pushing the mouthpiece down too fast or hard.

      You won’t always see a ton of vapor but there will always be a “priming” period for the first few draws, meaning the first few pulls really just help get the heat flowin and usually by about the 3rd draw or so you’ll start to see vapor.

      Let me know how you make out!

  61. Hey, looking into getting a vape for the first time. I’m torn between the PAX and the MFLB. I read through the previous comments on both. I only smoke once or twice a week. My wife is allergic (terrible! :( ) to the usual smoke, so not sure if this would be any different. She’s generally not a huge fan of the after smell. I am thinking that vapors would dissipate much faster and not stick around for long. The price point is pretty big with me as well. However, I want something that is easy to use. The battery life on the MFLB seems low too. Any advice?

    • Hey Tim,

      In your situation I think the Pax would make more sense.

      Even though it’s more expensive it is definitely easier to use, has better battery life, looks nicer, and in my opinion is just a more mature device.

      I think you’re making a smart decision to try out vaping, and your wife’s in luck too because generally vapor smells only half as strong as smoke and it dissipates twice as fast.

  62. Hey Bud,

    After watching your review, I ordered my Pax from your recommended store and received it last week. I’m having some issues with it though, and thought maybe you might be able to give me some insight.

    Basically, when I use the Pax, I get barely any effects from the herb that I put in the oven. I know that it is not the herb quality, because when I smoke it, the effects are very strong. I also do get pretty decent vapor on the first draws. I’ve used the Pax about 10 times so far.

    I’ve tried different loads in the oven, from just covering the bottom to completely packing it, but the results are the same (I feel like I am wasting my herb with this). I have only tried the medium and high temperature settings (since I already barely get any effect from the thicker hits, I didn’t even bother with the low setting). I do get visible vapor, so I don’t think its the heating element (the bottom of the device gets really warm).

    I’ve noticed, on the medium setting, that I might be able to take 5-10 hits before the vapor production is very low, and the plant material is very brown. Compared to my friends V-Tower, I feel that the same amount of herb lasts way longer in his and provides a lot stronger effects. I do understand that the Pax is meant to be portable and thus won’t be as efficient as a tabletop device, but I feel that to get the desired effects I might need anywhere from 3 to 5 oven fulls, which is way more herb than needed to get the full effects when using my friend’s vape or just smoking it.

    Do you think its possible I may have a defective device? Or is the Pax notorious for needing many oven fulls to reach the desired effects? Also, I don’t think I’m hitting it wrong; I take slow, long draws and do get visible vapor (but maybe there is some trick that I haven’t found out yet).

    If it might be a defective device, how is Pax with their customer service? I heard they were good, but if I send them an email or live chat with a representative, will I be frowned upon or “blacklisted” for saying I’m not getting the effects of my non-tobacco product?

    Sorry for the very long post, I just wanted to make sure I gave enough information to try and troubleshoot what the problem is.

    Thanks for all your hard work and happy Thanksgiving!

    • Hey Nick,

      Thanks for posting, and I’m sorry to hear you’re not getting the best results with your unit.

      By everything you’ve described it doesn’t sound to me like you have a defective unit, but hey anything is possible so I won’t completely disregard that thought.

      I have a few tips you can try to see if you get better results. I do want to also mention that in my personal opinion no portable vapes that I own perform at the same level as desktop units. Meaning the vapor is not as strong or comfortable – it’s sort of a tradeoff for having portability.

      When I use my Pax the way I’m about to describe I get roughly 15-20 total draws from a fully-packed herb chamber. However, these draws are fairly light compared to what’s produced by home units, so to maximize the impact they have you really have to savor each draw (hold it in longer).

      So I mainly use mine on the Medium heat setting. I find that Low is a little too light, and High is a little too hot.

      I also always fully pack the oven, and I even push it down a little bit to compact it in there. Since this is a conduction vape it performs best when your material is pressed against all of the surfaces that heat up (the walls of the oven).

      Now another very important thing to do is grind up your material SUPER FINE, and also lay your grinds out for a little while until they’re BONE DRY. Your herbs must be very dry and very finely ground up for your unit to produce the strongest, densest vapor.

      It sounds like you’re drawing on it correctly, long and slow, usually about 10-15 seconds per draw. You can also try holding the vapor in a little longer as I mentioned earlier, since the volume of vapor that is produced is not astronomical it’s important to get the most out of it.

      When I follow the steps above and vape a full oven by myself the effects are on par with almost any other method, maybe a tiny bit lighter but that’s all you can really expect from a portable.

      Try it out a few more times and let me know if you get any better results.

      Happy thanksgiving – Stay up!

      • Hey Bud,

        I wanted to comment back to let you know how the whole Pax situation is going. I’ve had quite a few issues with mine ever since this post, between the mouthpiece getting completely locked inside the unit twice, to the unit not heating up unless I push the mouthpiece down slightly, etc.

        I take the blame on the first time the mouthpiece got stuck for lack of cleaning (even though I might have used it 10 times before that).

        After that happened VW told me about cleaning the spring/connection area, so I bought some interdental brushes and made sure to clean that out while it was still warm, as well as dipping the mouthpiece in alcohol and clicking it 10 times in the unit. Even after that the unit seems to sometimes not heat up unless I push it down, and sticks a bit too.

        As for the whole vapor potency issue, I’ve tried varying different techniques for hitting it, holding it in longer, packing it tighter, but nothing really changed for me though, I still feel like I’m using a lot of material for almost nothing.

        After talking to some people at VW, I sent back the unit and they will check to see if it is defective. They also gave me the choice to exchange the Pax for another unit since I was having all these issues with it, so that was really awesome!

        I’m currently looking at the EQ, SSV, Solo and Herbalaire h2.2 (I was also looking at the Da Buddha but it seems 7th floor can’t keep up with the demand). Since potency is an issue, I’m looking into the home units, although the Solo would be nice for when I go out to play sports. I don’t know if you have any experience with the h2.2, but would you have any recommendations between that, the SSV and EQ? And do you think if I decide to get the Solo I might have the same vapor potency problem as the Pax, as well as be a decent “home” unit? And finally is the SSV really worth it over the DBV?

        Thanks again for all your help and also answering so fast. And sorry if I hadn’t given you an update until now, I had some downtime where I had to buy a new mouthpiece because the other one broke after being stuck in the unit, as well as just trying to get more experience to see if it was my problem, not the unit’s.

        Nick

        • Hey Nick,

          Thanks for staying in touch and giving updates on your situation.

          Definitely sorry to hear the Pax didn’t really work out for you, but very cool that you’re able to swap it for a different model if you want.

          I’ve actually been testing and reviewing the HerbalAire and the Da Buddha for a couple weeks now, and was hoping to get my full reviews up within a couple more weeks.

          So far I’m not very impressed with the h2.2, it’s definitely pretty cool but I don’t think it performs as well as the other models you mentioned, and it has a few other issues too.

          The Da Buddha is cool and I like it, I’m pretty sure I’m gonna end up giving it the same overall rating as the EQ, but still deciding on that.

          In my opinion the SSV is the best of the bunch, and I do think it is actually worth the extra cost over the Da Buddha, the small enhancements it has do make the vaping experience slightly more enjoyable.

          To me the Pax and the Solo are fairly similar in how they perform, so I’m just not totally sure if that would be the best option for you. It’s definitely possible that you might like it more, but I think the chances of you liking a desktop unit more are higher.

          Hope this helps a little!

  63. Hey Bud,

    First off, thanks for doing all your video reviews. I am a long time owner of a Volcano and completley agree with your review of it. I then saw your Pax review and that was enough to push me to purchase it. I just got my pax an hour ago and am charging it as I type thie.
    Just wanted to give you and your users some info on the Pax from what I’ve been able to dig up. I’ve been reading a lot on other forums, some of them get up to over 200 pages long.
    The party mode. It will start doing that if you twist the pax like a screw driver or like you are rolling a joint/cigarette (3 times). When activated Party mode will not go into standby so you can safely pass the Pax around without the worry of it cooling down.
    Secondly the mouth piece issues some ppl are having. Ploom has developed a second mouth piece (Vers 2.0 I guess) that’s supposed to fix some of the issues some ppl are encountering, if you chat with Ploom’s customer service and describe your problem they will normally send you a free new mouth piece. If your mouthpiece is stuck in the retracted position, you can either wiggle it around and very slowly push down until you hear the click and then very slowly let it rise up. If it’s really stuck, I’ve read that some ppl have had success using a hair dryer to unstick it. According to Ploom, you should then dip the metal end of the mouth peice in some rubbing alcohol and then click the mouth piece up and down about a dozen times to clean out any resin on the mouth piece action.
    From what I’ve read, DO NOT GET ISO ON THE TEMP BUTTON!!! Have read if you do, the temp button seems to have a tendency of sticking and preventing you from changing temps.
    Also for those who want to use less herb, then just pack in half an oven full, but make sure it’s packed down tight and you should have no issues.
    Happy Vaping!

  64. Quick question… Do you ever have to stir the herb to get an even burn in the Pax? Most vapes I know needs some kind of stirring or mixing to acheive best result for an entire bowl? In fact many vapes come with or you can purchase stir sticks…
    Thanks for the reviews! So cool!

    • Hey sup,

      I know what you mean about having to stir your herbs with most vapes, but with the Pax it’s actually not required, it does a good job of evenly vaping the entire chamber.

  65. Complete newbie question:

    Brand new to this–I just received my PAX vaporizer. It’s beautifully designed and works nicely. My newbie question is this: How do you know when to change the herbs in the oven? Every use? Every X minutes? Can you leave the herbs in the oven and then use them again next time?

    Thanks for the great resource! It was totally on your review that we decided on the PAX.

    –Sharp

    • Hey Sharp,

      Great choice!

      Typically if you fully pack the chamber you can expect about 10-20 minutes of vaping and about 15-20 draws total.

      You’ll know your herbs are spent when you stop getting much vapor and the taste changes to something like burnt popcorn.

      If you completely fill the oven and only take a few draws, then shut it off, you should be able to turn it back on at a later time and finish vaping the rest of the material.

      Stay up!

  66. Im looking at the Pax. I think it is what I’m going to go with but I have concern about the mouthpiece. Is the sticking mouthpiece problem happening alot and the hot mouth piece problem are holding me from buying. Any info would be helpful.

    • Sup Tatum,

      After some use the vape could build up some residue around the mouthpiece connections, and if not cleaned out this could cause it to start sticking or acting weird.

      I’ve found that if you keep it clean you’re much less likely to have any issues. The only tricky part is that you kinda need a very small brush to get into all the nooks and crannies.

      I use two things, a single pipe cleaner (those fuzzy, bendable sicks) and a small inter-dental brush (designed to get in between teeth, most supermarkets & drug stores have them).

      Just dip both brushes in some 91% rubbing alcohol and gently clean out any residue in and around the mouthpiece connection and vapor path.

      As far as the mouthpiece heating up, I’m pretty sure this only happens when you don’t fully pack the herb chamber. The way this vape is designed it really only functions properly when the oven is full. I’ve never personally had mine get hot or uncomfortable.

      Hope this helps!

  67. Hey Bud,
    You’ve somewhat addressed this question in regards to how to pack the oven. But my needs are probably pretty unique among this community. And there are thus – I do not need much herd to be medicated. I find that I usually pack a very small amount, often less than 0.1g of herb in my whip style vape (Topoo 100) and that amount is plenty, if not too potent for me. In order to not over-medicate with this product I’m wondering if I would be best to somehow pack a very small amount (which really wouldn’t be “packed” at all) or maybe mix it with some less potent herbal mixtures, like mints? Or would simply packed the 0.2-0.3g it requires be best and take very light draws from it? I ask because I’m blessed in the sense that a very small amount of herb is effective for me, but at the same time I don’t have a lot of vape experience and don’t know if taking one small draw everything hour or so would be wasteful? Maybe there is a different portable vape that is better for me? I looked at the MFLB and really quite prefer this product for a lot of reasons, but mostly like the construction, warranty, temp settings, size and overall look. I’m open to suggestions, but would be very willing to give this product a go if there is a way for me to vape my 0.1g or less effectively and not waste half of what I pack. Does the vapor that is not drawn from the heated chamber/oven dissipate? Or does it remain active even 20-40 minutes later? Maybe vaping isn’t ideal for such a light user (although, I’m kind of thinking it’s best). Any thoughts on this unit for me? Thanks so much, this site is an awesome resource, my friend.

    • I should also add that 0.3g (which you’ve sited previously as being the amount necessary to fill the oven) is about 2-3 days worth of material for me. This is why I ask about the viability of maybe packing non-medicinal herbs in there as well; not packing it full; or, just packing it with the required 0.3g and using that over the course of a day to three days. What sounds like it would work best? Or is this not the vape for me? Thanks again, Bud. Peace

      • Hey what’s up,

        What I’ve found is that the Pax really works best when the chamber is packed full. If you try putting only a tiny bit of material in the oven you won’t get much vapor, and the unit could overheat a little causing the mouthpiece to get hot.

        So what I usually tell people is that if they want to use the Pax to only vape a small amount the best way to about it is to fully pack it anyway and just shut the vape off mid-session, saving the rest of the load for later.

        This isn’t the most efficient way to use this vape though, as some will be wasted during the heating up/cooling down phases of turning it on and off. So the most efficient way to use this vape is to pack it full and vape the whole thing in one session.

        Now if you typically vape a very small amount as you mentioned, I really think the MFLB is your best option. I know it’s not as sexy and appealing as the Pax, but based on what you described to me that is the vape you’re looking for.

        It works well with tiny amounts of herbs and you can take as long of a break as you want in between draws because the heating element is only engaged when you push in the battery.

        I’ve found that there aren’t many vapes that work well with tiny amounts of material, and believe it or not you have a better chance of getting good results with a desktop unit than a portable when only packing a pinch.

        So in summary, if you want to vape only .1g at a time, the Launch Box is what will work best IMO.

        I do also want to mention though that you’re idea of mixing your .1g with other inert materials will probably work too. As long as the chamber is full it should work well, doesn’t matter too much what is in there.

        Hope this helps!

  68. ok i talked with you before about the atmos raw, well it burned out on me and im looking for a new vaporizer, i just came aross the pax and wanted to know your thoughts between the two. for me the atmos was a so so unit and from what im seening the pax seems alot better but wanted to know what you think before i spend 250 thanks for your time

    • Sup I definitely think the Pax is the better unit, it actually vaporizes! lol

      It’s not perfect, and you can still get stronger/tastier vapor from a desktop unit, but it’s currently the highest rated portable I’ve reviewed.

  69. my buddy just got this vape and man the draws are nice!

    I really only dislike 2 things about it.

    first the mouthpiece is actually really poorly designed and actually feels cheap as hell because the frickin air hole is on the side instead of the middle and it gets sticky and guncked up way too fast

    second the abv is awful and it gets supper black around the outsides of the heater while the middle is still a yellow green kinda colour

    • I disagree about the mouthpiece being poorly designed, I actually think it feels like a solid quality unit, especially compared to some other portable models.

      I know what you mean about the spent material though, it does come out pretty dark, but normally it’s not black on the edges and green in the middle, you might want to try a different heat setting or packing method.

      • i am now waiting for my pax to come in on monday, just wanted to know how the pax compares to the Atom raw. and if you have any tips for me with the pax
        thank for your time

        • Much better than the Atmos, this one will actually vaporize your material :P

          I just posted a new video about the Pax last night, I talk about some important tips so definitely check it out and let me know how it works for you.

  70. Hey Bud thanks for your review! Here is my honest review about the Pax by Ploom, first of this is a horrible vaporizing tool, its made in China and feels, Cheap, Cheap, Cheap. An Iphone is awesome and doesn’t have a cheap and light feel to it, this is not the Iphone of Vapes. I returned this unit for a full refund (which was a pain btw, b/c their costumer service hardly wants to help you. They go crazy when you say anything is wrong with the Pax or their company) I’d give the Pax a 20/100 score, it wastes herb and turns it black, burned my hands and lips! The Pax isn’t worth the effort, time, nor money.

    • Sup Ryan,

      I’m not sure how many other vapes you’ve tried before the Pax, but it certainly doesn’t feel cheap, especially compared to others.

      Maybe your expectations were just not realistic and that’s why you were disappointed, I don’t refer to it as the iphone of vapes.

      I think it works great when you consider the features and performance of most units on the market, but I do not think this vape is perfect, it’s just one of the best portables available at this point in time.

      As I mention in a few of my videos, portable vapes in general are lagging behind desktop units in the performance area, it’s sort of a trade-off for the portability.

      I just posted a new video of the Pax yesterday showing how well it works along with some tips to get the best results.

      If you were using it with small amounts of material that might explain your displeasure, and the burned lips.

      Sorry to hear you were disappointed.

  71. Hi Bud, thank you for yours comments…I had a n02, but after 6 months the thermostat was crazy and jumped from 300 to 270 and then 270 and finally burned the grass. I am in doubt of PAX, but would like to know the difference in quality steam with a VOLCANO CLASSIC.what is this difference? ? taste, intensity ? And my problem is price 250 x 539. the difference of the steam quality is as large as the value of each?

    • Hey Marcelo,

      Sorry to hear about your NO2!

      The Pax is a great portable vape, but just keep in mind that portable vapes in general don’t perform as well as desktop (home) units.

      A model like the Volcano provides one of the best overall vaporizing experiences, and it’s one of the highest quality vapes.

      Vapor taste and intensity is just one area I consider when I rate each vape, and it is fairly different between these two models.

      The Pax vapor is good, especially for a portable, but the V will produce stronger vapor that tastes better, and more of it. Another main difference is that you need to take at least a 10 second draw from the P to get a good amount of vapor, and you only need to draw from the V balloon for 2 seconds.

      There are many other differences also, let me know if you have specific questions about any other aspects of these units.

      If you’re only going to be using your vaporizer at home I would first recommend a desktop unit, but if you want a vape to take with you on-the-go the P is a great option.

  72. I think it needs another go around. While it may produce much more vapor, many people have had issues with the mouth piece jamming because of resin build up, even if they cleaned it with the equipment. I like the pax at first, but since it was new many of its problems weren’t known

    • Yes it’s definitely not perfect, it’s just better overall than just about all of the other portables I’ve reviewed so far.

      Cleaning it when it’s warm is very important, as cold residue is very difficult to remove from any device.

  73. Hello Good Sir,

    I just a got a Pax, I was so excited. But to my dismay
    I’m finding it really difficult to get a decent drag. And even though
    Its brand new, I still cleaned it. Its still a really chore to get a solid drag.

    I have to figgit with the chamber door ever so slightly in order to get
    a drag going and let some air through.

    I have been using the Vapir NOS2 and when i went back
    to that it was very easy to drag and I havent cleaned it in while.

    Since you have experience with this (and many other) Vapes
    I was hoping you may be able to shed some light on this before
    I contact PLOOM directly .

    Thanks for your help

    • Hey what’s up,

      What you’re describing is actually normal with this vape, it requires some draw resistance to operate properly since it’s a conduction style vaporizer.

      Even though it’s not ideal, I’m not a big fan of a hard pull either, there’s really nothing you can do to get rid of it without affecting the performance on your unit.

      You can try slowing down your draw speed, as this will lessen the feeling of resistance and will help the unit produce more vapor.

      Some other vapes feel very similar to the Pax, and some are even harder to pull, but as you mentioned the NO2 is not one of them, that vape has much less resistance.

  74. Hey Bud,
    The Pax seems like a great unit considering its portability and relatively large amount of vapor production, but i do have a few concerns, especially in regards to the battery. I know the unit has a ten year warranty which is great, except for the fact that i have heard that the warranty does not cover a battery that eventually dies after a few years. This could be a problem as there is no real means of replacing the battery by yourself. I have heard of a program in which you can send in the Pax to have the battery replaced for a small fee, however i have been unable to find any information on any such program. Have you heard any information on this? Thank you for your help and also for your very helpful reviews!

    • Hey sup,

      Your concern regarding the battery is justified, and you are correct that it’s not covered under warranty.

      The Pax was just released about 4 months ago so I’m assuming that’s the reason they haven’t developed a system yet for battery replacements.

      I haven’t heard anything about how it will work yet, but I would expect them to make this info available in the near future, as this seems to be a common concern that they’re aware of.

      Thanks for the question!

  75. Hey – thanks for the info and review. Have you heard of this issue: when I click out my mouth piece, the heating light, not purple light goes on, and it is only when I push the mouth piece partway in that the purple light goes on and it heats.

    • Hey Bob,

      Yes that is a common issue caused by residue buildup around the mouthpiece connections.

      The easiest way to keep it gunk-free is to give it a light cleaning every 3 or 4 sessions.

      First warm up the vape for a minute, then remove the mouthpiece, then using an interdental brush (shown in my Pax vape session video) dipped in rubbing alcohol simply scrub all the metal connections.

      It’s important to get every surface, and the tiny brush is the perfect size to get in all the crevices.

  76. Sir Bud! Hows it?

    Great review and I’m loving your videos. Your Pax review made me want to buy one. But I had a problem as they only ship within the US so I had to put my thinking cap on and have it shipped to Australia via a drop shipping company. So now I’m waiting for my sweet sweet Pax but had to ask an important question.

    What is the voltage rating on your Pax’s charger? As Australia have 240 volts I know the states has 110. If you could help me with the situation I would be very thankful. Cheers Bud

    • Sup Andrew,

      Thanks for the kind words.

      My charger says input 100V-120V and output 9V.

      Be very careful with how you charge the unit, you might want to contact Ploom and ask about it, I heard one story of someone using this vape overseas and the way they charged it caused it to malfunction.

      I’m not sure about the details of what they used, so just research it before you try anything, I’d hate to hear about anything going wrong with your unit.

      Otherwise enjoy it! :P

  77. Hi. Thanks for the great reviews. If you don’t finish everything in the chamber in one sitting, any issue leaving it there for future use? Thanks.

    • Hey, it is possible to shut the vape off halfway through a session and resume it later, but it’s not ideal for max efficiency.

      During the heating up/cooling down process a little bit of material may be wasted, and the second session may not be as satisfying.

      It’s totally possible, and I occasionally do it myself, but it does work better when you vape it all in one session.

  78. hey bud,

    1) I read one review that said using the pax allowed them to spend half as much money on herb compared to using a regular pipe. Is this true?

    2) What is the best portable vape for conserving herb? (saving the most money on herb)

    3) about how much herb fits into the oven compared to a loaded bowl in a pipe?

    4) do you know if ploom is planning on releasing a newer version of the pax anytime soon and is worth waiting for?

    Thanks!

    • Hey Emily,

      Thanks for your questions, here are my answers:

      1) While vaporizing in general is more efficient than smoking, the Pax isn’t a particularly efficient vape compared to some others. I only say this because you do need to fill the chamber for best results and it can fit a good amount of material. Over time though you’ll definitely cut down on herb use if you vaporize.

      2) I’d say the most efficient portable vapes I’ve reviewed are probably the Solo and the MFLB.

      3) A full oven is roughly equivalent to a full packing in a standard sized pipe, approx .2-.3g.

      4) As of today I haven’t heard of any new version in production.

      Stay up!

  79. Hey man I was wondering if tobacco flavoring could be used along with the pax. How many drops should I use along with the herbs?

  80. Hey bud,

    I got the pax yesterday based off of your review along with some others on YouTube. Yours was very thorough so thanks for that.

    I am finding that even when I do different variations of drag methods (10+secs and slow, like a cigar with short hard puffs and also how you would try hitting a regular glass piece, etc.), i am still either not producing any significant vapor clouds or I am not seeing them. In videos I watched there is an ass load more of vapor coming from the unit and what I’m blowing looks like barely tainted air. Do I have a faulty unit or are there any recommendations to produce more vapor? I’m mainly using it on the medium setting w a full battery charge. I’m also packing it entirely and packing it tight. How many draws can you get from one fully packed oven?

    I’m def getting high but not as faded as I was expecting. Mouthpiece also seems to get a bit hot. Appreciate any advice you may have that can help me enjoy it more.

    • Hey Drew,

      Thank for commenting.

      It sounds like you’re doing everything you should be doing – medium heat setting, finely ground material that is fully dried out, fully packed chamber that is compacted, taking long slow draws.

      The Pax isn’t really a heavy vapor producer, I mention it in my main review how the draws are pretty light compared to desktop units. If this is your first vape just keep in mind that portable models produce lighter vapor, there’s a trade-off for having that portability.

      In my session videos it looks like huge clouds because the lighting is setup to enhance the visible vapor. So even though you may not see that much yourself, the vape is still producing it, and if you had the same lighting setup you’d see the same amount. Under most conditions and in most lighting you won’t see much vapor with this model.

      I usually get about 20 draws from this vape on a full packing.

      With vaporizers in general if you want stronger effects try holding in the vapor longer, that’ll usually do the job.

      Oh and the mouthpiece shouldn’t be getting hot if you’re fully packing the oven, you might just wanna make sure your lips aren’t covering the hole in the mouthpiece, sometimes direct contact with the vapor coming out can be uncomfortable.

      Hope this helps a little bit. If you’re still disappointed with the vapor production I would recommend looking into a desktop unit, most of the other portables I’ve reviewed produce the same or less vapor than this one.

    • Bottom line about the mouthpiece getting too hot: If it gets hot, your hitting it too hard, simple as that. I have absolutely zero issues with the mouthpiece getting hot even if it is half packed oven, no issues. Slow your draws for maximum results. Remember you need to let it have time to reproduce more vapor as well so drawing slower will maximize vapor production. Hope this helps everyone.

  81. Love the reviews!
    You have been my go to for vape info on my search for a new one.
    Im considering the thermovape t1 over the pax due to the cleaning issue. I know im not going to clean it as often as it should and sounds like it would create a problem. I currently use the no2 and love it just want something a little smaller. Will you be reviewing the t1?

    • Coo!

      The T1 was actually discontinued so I decided not to review it. The company that makes it has a new model coming out soon but it looks a bit different and is a little pricier.

  82. hey bud,

    i decided to get the pax which is working fine but when i was cleaning it i took out the screen and noticed that the design is just indents on it and dont actually go through the screen just wondering if yours is the same

    • Hey sup yes that is actually the way it’s supposed to be, I was surprised at first also.

      It made sense after I thought about it though, since it’s a conduction vape the oven needs to heat up enough to vaporize the material, which can only happen when there’s very little airflow through the chamber. So the screen is really like a plate, because it’s designed to help heat the material and not just block it from passing through.

      I was bored one day and drilled a tiny hole in one of my screens to see what would happen if there was more airflow in the chamber. It made it a tiny bit easier to draw but I also got less vapor, so it became apparent that it needs that resistance to heat the herbs properly.

    • The odor is all in the vapor. The vapor’s on the lighter side with this unit but you’ll still smell it if there’s no ventilation.

      Generally vapor smells only half as strong as smoke and it dissipates twice as fast.

  83. hey bud, loved the video. Very informative!
    I usually dont smoke very much at a time (usually just a few bowls in the evening). Would I be able to pack the chamber full, smoke a bit, then leave it in there til the next day?

    • Hey sup I’m glad you found it helpful.

      Technically yes, you can always shut the vape off at any point during your session and save the rest for another time.

      The second session is usually not as satisfying as the first because most of the flavor comes through in the first half of the session, as well as most of the desired compounds.

      I’m not saying it can’t be done, a lot of people use it this way, but I’ve personally found the experience to be the most enjoyable if it’s all vaped in one shot.

  84. Hey, Bud. First of all, you keep *the* most comprehensive and informative vape blog I’ve found. I spent the last few weeks researching vapes to decide which would be my first one. After reading this entire post top to bottom, and your other reviews, I decided to invest in the Pax for my first. I’m so in love and can’t help but show it off to everyone like it’s my baby.

    I have an answer, and then a question. For the lightweights like me who only need a pinch to get the job done – I’ve found that mixing herbs works really well. I use 1 part green with 2 parts mint (from the smoke shop). It packs the chamber full enough for optimal performance, without losing any efficiency through reheating multiple times, as you said.

    And a question – I can NOT figure out how to activate the party mode so that it doesn’t go into power-save between pulls. I tried twisting it “like a screw driver or rolling a cigarette” as mentioned above, but no matter what I do it just thinks I’m testing the battery. Any word on that?

    Thanks,
    JustSomeGirl

    P.S. – After a lot of trial and error, I’m convinced that almost all of the complaints people listed above are due to user error or improper care.

    • Hey what’s up,

      Really glad you found the site helpful, and also that you’re enjoying the vape!

      You know I’m not sure why I never thought of your solution for having to fully pack the oven, but I like it, that’s actually a great idea.

      I’m not exactly sure about the party mode either! The few times it’s done it for me was by accident, and I’ve heard the same thing that twisting it makes it go into this mode, but I wasn’t able to replicate it myself.

      Hopefully someone who knows how will read this and enlighten us :P

      Thanks for posting!

      • Oh, I almost forgot! If someone is using herbs from the smoke shop, make sure you grind those up too, and be careful what kind of herbal blend you buy. I got a couple of packs of herbal blends made by Juicy Jays – one pack had some sticks in it that my Diamond Grind wasn’t able to grind up (a coffee bean grinder might work), and the other bag just turned to dust in my grinder. I tossed out both packs and just picked up some bulk herbs in the clear jars (so I could actually see what I was buying) at another smoke shop. That worked out perfectly.

        Hopefully someone will learn from my mistakes! :)

        • Hey there, I found mine goes into party-mode when I roll it back and forth, over a table for instance. Or when I hold it like a screwdriver and twist back and forth, like 3 times. Twist it exactly like you would twist a screwdriver, just go back and forth. Like 1/2 turn tighty, 1/2 turn loosey, … repeat 3 times, not too quick, not too slow, and there you are.

          Hope that helps

  85. i have a question about maintenance, how often do screens need to be changed? what other supplementary items will i need to buy? thanks man!

    • The screen doesn’t need to be replaced often, maybe once every few months depending how often you use it. It’s actually not really a screen at all, it’s more of a plate, there’s no holes in it.

      It’s removable when you clean it so unless it gets bent or damaged during cleaning each one should last a while.

      The only thing I would recommend buying if you get the Pax is a package of inter-dental brushes from your local supermarket or drug store, and some pipe cleaners. They work really well for cleaning all the hard to reach areas in the mouthpiece area. Other than that everything you need will come with the unit.

      Keeping the mouthpiece connections clean is where the maintenance really is with this vape. It’s recommended to give it a light scrubbing with some rubbing alcohol every 3-4 uses or so to avoid any issues.

      • Hi Bud,

        I’m Paulo from Costa Rica. Thank you very much for this web site. I didn’t know anything about vaporizers until I watched your videos and read your reviews. I fell in love with Pax, so I just bought one. This thing is amazing!!! Now, I want a Volcano! Well, who doesn’t?!

        You’re doing a great job! Congrants!

        Pura Vida!

  86. GREAT review!
    I bought my Pax based on your review.
    I absolutely love this thing! could not be happier. One of the biggest thing I love about it is the draw resistance it has. I am used to taking big “louis Armstrong” type hits, if you do that on the Pax the mouthpiece will get uncomfortable hot! With the resistance you are forced to take a slow, steady, soft drag which i believe produces a better vape.
    I draw slow enough on this for maybe 20-30 seconds and the mouthpiece dosent get hot and the vaper is wonderful!

    • And I just watched your session vid all the way through and started packing the oven better as you suggested. big difference! mouthpiece doesn’t get hot! no matter how I draw. middle heat setting works best for me!

  87. Hey man how are you? I was wondering if you could help me make a decision.

    The only vaporizer I have ever used in my life is the Vapor Brothers Vaporizer a few years ago. I am trying to get back into the game but I am not sure which vaporizer to get. I am wondering how today’s portable Pax vaporizer compares to yesterdays Vapor Brothers Vaporizer (a home unit). I hope its some where near the same quality. the thing is; I have to take my hits very discretely at home, which is why I am considering a portable unit as I can take my hit real fast and put the thing away just as fast. What has me on the ropes is the possibility that the Pax is no where near as good as the Vapor Bros. Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer my question, I greatly appreciative it!

    • Hey sup,

      I haven’t reviewed a VaporBrothers unit yet but based on what I know about it I would say that it probably produces a higher volume of vapor than the Pax.

      The Pax, and a handful of other portables, are great but you do sacrifice a little bit of performance for that portability.

      From what you described it sounds like you might like a vape like the MFLB. It’s the best vape for taking quick draws and putting it back away because it only takes 5 seconds to heat up.

      I like the Pax a lot, and when I leave home it’s my vape of choice to take with me, but you do need to dedicate some time for a full session to get the best use out of it in my opinion, I wouldn’t recommend turning it on and off multiple times with one oven packing.

  88. Hey Bud.
    I am a health freak and i am trying to decide between the solo and pax. I like how i could attach the solo to a water pipe but is that really necessary? Will it make it anymore healthy? I’ve also heard that the vapour that comes out of the solo is cooler and more healthy. Have you heard anything like this before?Which would you recommend?

    • Hey what’s up,

      I personally don’t feel that vaping through water is necessary or that it makes it any healthier.

      The Solo and the Pax are similar in performance but are different in their best uses.

      The Pax is much easier and more convenient to carry with you and use on-the-go, the Solo is a little bulkier and heavier and has that glass stem.

      But they both produce pretty good vapor so I think it comes down to where you will use it the most. If you’re mainly going to use it at home the Solo might make more sense, but if you plan on taking the vape with you when you leave home I would go with the Pax.

  89. Hi!

    I just bought this vape based on your recommendation and was wondering if this unit should be run through that initial burn off process you sometimes describe in your other reviews.

    Thanks!

    • Hey David,

      Yes if you have the time and patience it can’t hurt to let it run empty for a little while before packing it.

      The only thing with this vape is that if you put it down it will go into power save mode and lower the heat, so you’ll need to hold it in your hand during the dry run.

  90. Having purchased the device based partially on this review, I’d like to give my “first 30 days” review…

    Overall, this device does everything that a lower-priced vape does. It obviously has a ton of additional features, but the basic design of the product falls short of “it just works”.

    The good:

    - Variable heat settings
    - Motion-detector to save battery
    - Rechargeable, dock included

    The bad:

    - Defective by nature. Ploom advises routine maintenance with poorly-packaged food-grade lubricant to maintain the simplest mechanism (heating up)
    - Poor mouthpiece design. The mouthpiece is the switch. It’s plastic connected to metal. The switch breaks (see aforementioned lubricant maintenance) and the mouthpiece gets very hot.

    Overall, I suspect the design team started with all the mega-features and forgot to nail the basics. Sure it’s awesome, but it’s not decent. I regret my purchase.

  91. Hi:

    I really liked your review. Very informative, but Pax also gets very hot, both the body and the mouthpiece. Are there glass mouthpieces on personal vaporizers? I was disappointed about the draw too. What’s the best small/personal vaporizer on the market in your opinion?

    • Hey what’s up,

      I’ve found that most complaints about this vape overheating are by people trying to use it without the oven being fully packed. You really need to fill it up and even compact it for best performance.

      The draw resistance is definitely something I don’t particularly enjoy, and other small conduction vapes seem to have a similar issue (the Solo resistance is even worse).

      The Solo has a glass mouthpiece, helps provide slightly tastier vapor (just a lil bit), but also makes it more fragile.

      Out of the models I’ve reviewed so far I currently rate the Pax, Solo and MFLB the highest.

  92. What’s up Bud

    I apologize if you have already answered this but there were too many comments for me to read.

    While in use my pax changes from green to temperature color and stops producing vapor. Then it goes back and forth to purple and green. It only produces vapor on green. I clean it every night after heavy use, and I make sure its fully charged. Do you think there could be a glitch?

    • Hey sup,

      Normally this issue is caused by residue buildup, but if you’re already keeping it very clean there’s something else you could try.

      Ploom has recently said that to resolve this issue all you need to do is add a few drops of lubricant to the mouthpiece connections, more specifically a food-grade propylene glycol (safe to use).

      I have some on the way to me now to try it myself, and if it works I’ll post an update. You should also be able to get a small packet of it from Ploom if you contact them and ask.

  93. This vape is the truth. Watching your review made me want to buy the pax. Def worth the 250 I spent. I got everyone I know sweating my pax and when the ladies see this thing they go crazy.

  94. Hey Bud,

    Love your reviews. I am thinking about getting the PAX as a portable vaporizer and am sorry if this question has already been answered — I didn’t see it when skimming the questions, but:

    How does the PAX work for you now? Is its still decent after a couple months of use and taking care of the product? (cleaning it, not dropping, etc.)

    I have heard a lot of negatives after a month or more of use.

    Thanks

    • Hey Andy,

      It’s actually working great still, just used it twice today on a long car ride, but I do run into that “temp light” issue sometimes, where the mouthpiece thinks it’s disconnected.

      I’ve always been able to make it go away within a minute or so, but that’s really the only problem I’ve had.

      Cleaning it is normally what helps get rid of the issue but recently I found out Ploom had a new solution, they started offering a lubricant for the mouthpiece connections that supposedly makes the problem go away.

      I’m expecting to get some in the next few days to give it a try myself. It’s a food-grade propylene glycol and apparently you only need a couple of drops, hopefully it works.

      After I get it and test it out I’ll post an update and share the results. I’m pretty sure anyone who already owns the Pax can contact Ploom or VW to get some.

      Aside from this issue, I still think it’s a great vape when you’re on-the-go, and I use mine all the time.

  95. I’ve been watching this thread for Some time as I posted earlier. My experience with the Pax has been very different. I made the decision to vape after watching someone close to me die of lung cancer and wanted to do something that helped at least cut the risk of going through that. Bought the ExtremeQ. As you read, it is a great device at a great price. But it always has been little bit of a pain for me. Big a clunky and a lot of work in my opinion. I saw the first review of the Pax here and bought it online when it first came available. I have rarely made such a great purchase. It is what I use 90% of the time. It goes everywhere with me. I get that it drags hard. Guess I don’t have a problem with that. And I don’t use all the product in one sitting. I can turn it off and come back to it numerous times. You easily can tell when it is spent. The Pax is just the best in my opinion. Never had a problem. It’s discreet cool and works like a charm. Changed my life

  96. Hey, great site and youtube, very clarifying, i immediately notice that you understand what you are talking about and that you really like what you do, and for me thats a huge thing.

    Now for my questions:
    In the FAQ video you said that the launch box is better for a small amount, but it is okay do turn on the PAX take a fews draws and turn it off for latter usage?
    I saw that phil do it without any problems.

    Can you please do a vaping 101? I want to start vaping but i dont really know how to do it, when the herb is out and things like that.

    The last thing is more like a suggestion for your site.
    Put the comments from the most recent to the oldest, and the comment box on the top of the thread.

    Keep the great job.
    Cheers from Brazil

    • Hey thanks,

      Yes it is absolutely ok to take a few draws from this vape and then turn it off to save the rest for later, it’s just not the most efficient way to use it. Many people use it this way and so do I sometimes but I find myself enjoying it more when I vape it all in one session.

      I’ll definitely consider making more beginner guides, I appreciate the request.

      Generally speaking with most vapes your material is spent when you stop getting vapor from it – sometimes you can tell by how the taste changes also.

      Thanks for the website suggestion as well.

      -Bud

      • Im with Tomas 100% i love what you do Bud keep it up !! i understand your really busy so to save you some kind of time ill let you know that i sent a comment yesterday that involved the same suggestion Tomas said, Since i am making the switch myself id like a Vaping 101 video so i know exactly what im doing and not finding out the hard way if you do not mind

  97. Thanks for the info, your site is great, and your reviews are very thorough. Pax is the second portable vape I’ve purchased, the first being Palm, and It’s definitely worth the extra money. I have been reading up on the issues people are having, since I always like to be well informed before purchasing something this expensive. I bought directly from the company, and they now are shipping them with 2 packets of the lubricant, and a cleaning kit.
    The packet they’re shipping the lubricant in isn’t ideal for application, but the lubricant itself doesn’t affect the taste at all. I found that when you lubricate the inside of the mouthpiece, as instructed by their website, you’ll have to run a pipe cleaner through once or it will clog the air passage (which is tight enough to begin with). I also recommend cleaning and lubricating it right out of the box. Mine was very hard to draw off, but as soon as I cleaned it, it made a huge difference and the vapor flows much better now.
    I have only had it 24 hours, but I already notice a huge difference over the Palm. The vapor feels more equivalent to a stationary unit, than the cheaper portables. I’ll let you know how long the lubricant keeps me from running in to the flashing light problem, I haven’t had that yet after a few uses.
    Are there any herb blends you recommend for vaping that are non-tobacco, non-medicinal? I’m not a tobacco user, and I’m looking for something tasty to vape when I’m not medicating.

    • Hey thanks for posting your experiences so far.

      Actually a reader recently turned me on to vaping chamomile, and I have to say it’s pretty cool, it has a nice mellow flavor.

      This herb has a very similar temperature range that it vaporizes in, in relation to your regular material, so you can even experiment with mixing the two together.

  98. Very happy with the Pax, I gave my Flight box away the next day. After reading the complaints, I respectfully disagree . The issues I read about can be corrected. If your mouthpiece is getting hot, that’s because there is not enough product in the oven. I use a second screen to mash the product tight, repack it and do it again. The oven lid should barely fit. Draw too difficult? remove your screen, when you put it back, only tamp down the side opposite the draw hole. The other end over the draw hole will tilt up slightly leaving a tiny space underneath that makes the air flow easier. If your mouthpiece sticks clean the outside of the mouthpiece tube for sure, but dont forget to swab around the outside of the mouthpiece in the main unit. Yes its hard to get in there, hold the unit upside down and use a pipe cleaner to swab around the tube with a higher grade alcohol, holding it upside down will keep excess alcohol from running down into the electronics. Dry it off and consider a tiny amount of lubricant on the outside of the mouthpiece tube. Some are recommending Propylene Glycol, if that is not food grade it is a toxin so be careful about that. Propylene Glycol is basically mineral oil and alcohol. I am experimenting with some vegetable oils right now. [edited]

  99. Maybe I’m behind the times, but how is the Pax (or any other portable vaporizer) better than the old school dugout and pinch hitter? I’m old (and grumpy) but I’ve found over the last 30 years that 1-3 pinch hits gets me where I want to be. A dugout is compact, convenient, economical, quick and fairly discreet, and about $20 to replace if it gets lost or destroyed.

    I get the basic advantages of vaporizing over smoking — less odor, no combustion byproducts, but is the effect so much better than it’s worth spending $250 on?

    • As far as effects goes that wouldn’t really be a main reason to vaporize, it’s not very different from smoking IMO.

      The main advantages are the things you mentioned, so it just depends on how much you care about that stuff.

      If you typically take only 1-3 draws at a time I would recommend looking into the Magic-Flight Launch Box if you decide to pursue vaporizing further, it’s probably more up your alley and it’s fairly inexpensive.

  100. Hey bud, iv decided to make the switch from smoke to vape. Iv decided to invest in the PAX, i had a friend bring one to a party but unfortunately he believed his was defective but after watching your videos i learned he just didn’t set it up correctly plus its not a “Party” vape but i still ended up falling in love with it. I just wanted to know if you could reply or even post a video about how to vape successfully. If not ill be trying to vape as if i am hitting a bowl lol.
    Ex: i heard taking quicker pulls cool down the vapor, is that true ?

    • Hey Ken not sure if you’ve seen it yet but near the top of this page I posted a second Pax video where I talk about how to get the best performance from it.

      Check it out and let me know if you still have any questions about using it.

  101. Hey Bud,
    In your video about cleaning the Pax, do you re-use your pipe cleaners even after dipping them in alcohol? And when you use alcohol on the mouthpiece area, does it affect the taste of anything? How long do you wait to vape after you clean it? Also, after you charge your Pax fully, about how many sessions do you get in until its completely dead?

    Thanks!

    • Sup Justin,

      I use one pipe cleaner per cleaning session and I dip it in alcohol a couple of times in the process, then throw it away when I’m done. The inter-dental brush I do save and re-use multiple times before throwing away.

      As long as you let the alcohol evaporate off of all parts before vaping again there will be no residual taste afterwards. It usually doesn’t take more than a few minutes for this to happen.

      On average I get about an hour of actual usage per charge, so depending on how long each session is I get about 4-5 sessions usually.

    • It’s kind of a tricky thing these portable vapes, because none of them really have the capacity or ability to produce enough vapor for multiple people.

      However, the Pax and the Solo do produce the most vapor out of the portables I’ve reviewed, so those would still be your best options IMO.

      Sometimes me and my girl will share a fully loaded Pax, and most of the time it’ll do the job for the both of us (if we’re just looking for something light). But, if you’re looking for heavy duty effects for multiple people I’d say you’d probably need to go with a good desktop unit.

  102. Bud,

    After much research on your site I decided to get the Pax. This thing is awesome! I have vaped 2 loads full out of it so far and washed the mouthpiece with dish soap and water. I am using the default setting, medium and I am noticing a strange taste, almost a chemical or plastic taste. Maybe it’s just the botanicals I am using but it doesn’t seem like it. I haven’t noticed this bad taste in my friend’s Extreme Q and NO2.

    What do you think could be the issue? I’m concerned I’m inhaling some kind of carcinogen from the plastic, metal pipe/oven or the electronics.

    Should I return it to the local shop I bought it from , or contact Ploom? Any advice would be great as everything else about the Pax is phenomenal!

    Thanks In advance Bud!

    • Hey great choice, thank for posting an update and I’m glad to hear you like it.

      I’m not sure where that foul taste could be coming from, I never experienced it with mine or received any complaints about that.

      This is probably a stupid question, but did you make sure you fully washed all of the soap out of all the mouthpiece crevices?

      The vapor doesn’t really come in contact with anything besides stainless steel inside the vape, which normally doesn’t affect taste.

      It’s possible that it’s just temporary and will go away on it’s own, but if you still experience it every time you use it I would bring it back to where you bought it and see what’s up.

      • Bud,

        It’s been almost 2 months since I commented, I gotta say the Pax has revolutionized my sessions. The odd flavor really ended up being a combination of:

        - New to vaporizing
        - The botanicals just happened to have a chemically taste
        - The new plastic smell was able to be tasted for the first few weeks, it eventually dissipated. (or I am used to it)

        The Pax has also changed the types of herbs I enjoy, some that I enjoyed the taste of while combusting, I did not enjoy the taste of vaporizing and vice versa. After about a month of straight Pax use, I tried combusting, it tasted like I was licking a camp fire… it was crazy. I didn’t like it. I am done smoking for good!

        I wanted to share some of the observations I have had with the Pax.

        Cleaning the Pax with alcohol is best but I find vaporizing for the first few days it tastes like rubbing alcohol. So I have been heating up the Pax and just using water on a pipe cleaner to do a nominal cleaning. I do this every few days or so as it delays having to clean the Pax with rubbing alcohol. I haven’t had to use the mouthpiece lubricant at all.

        After I finish an oven load, I kick the Pax on high and leave the oven lid off, the Pax will begin to smoke/vaporize from what I am is guessing is the resin in the tube that travels to the mouthpiece. So it’s become a practice of mine after emptying an oven load, to kick it on high with the oven lid off and let it burn out until I don’t see the smoke/vapor pouring out the oven.

        Concerning loading the oven. I have tried half oven loads, full oven and super full oven loads(tightly packed loads that are flush with the plastic of the oven slot) . It does work better tightly packed, the tighter the better it seems. Ovens that are super packed are easier to take pulls off of because the oven lid doesn’t close all the way, creating more airflow. This also supports the observations of others who open the oven lid on one side, creating an air flow for an easier hit. I actually find doing this cools the oven a bit when on low or medium and I find that it’s counterproductive to producing vapor. It also heats the mouthpiece up when you do this, the Pax is really meant to be drawn on slowly. Really, I can take a 3-5 second pull on medium and get a really nice vapor cloud.

        The Pax is a solo vaporizer. It get way too hot, especially the mouthpiece, if you pass it between more than 2 people.

        High setting is too hot, I don’t use it at all.

        Definitely stir the bowl. I usually start on low, take 5-7 hits, open the open oven lid and tap out the herbs, it comes out in the shape of the bowl, i just put it back in, green side down, without stirring. Then I’ll usually put it on medium, take another 5-7 hit, then tap out the herbs, this time I stir it around in my hand, then get another 5-7 hits out before I then just tap it out and add it to the ABV bag.

        Battery life is good, it actually will charge fast for a quick fix if it’s dead. I can toss the Pax on the charger for 5 minutes and get enough juice to get a session in. I usually just charge it at night every other night or so.

        Like I said, the Pax has revolutionized enjoying herb. I can sit on the beach, wind? no problem. Bathroom and the in-laws? Totally doable. Best thing ever. I don’t even know if I will ever need a desktop vaporizer. Thanks so much Bud!

  103. I wanted to first of all say thanks for your work, I’ve spent the last two days researching portable vapes, I’m new to vaping so I didn’t know where to jump in. Your site & youtube channel were beyond awesome. Thanks a million times over. Co-sign on the idea for a Vaping 101 beginner’s guide too.

    I wanted to ask, is it ok for the herb to shift around in the chamber, or does the unit need to be held level when its loaded?

    Also, I know the vapor is virtually odorless compared to regular herb smoke but exactly how subtle is it? Could a non-smoker walk into the room and know what was going down? I read that the smell compares to popcorn but I’m not sure if that’s true.

    I’m sure I could think of other noob questions, but those are my main ones. Gotta say thanks again for everything. If you’ve in central MO. the green is on me.

    • Hey thanks for posting and I’m really glad you found my stuff helpful.

      This vape performs best when the oven (herb chamber) is packed full, and even compressed a bit to make it tight in there. So basically if it’s properly packed your material won’t move around inside the oven at all no matter what position the vape is in.

      Generally I’ve found that vapor smells about half as strong as smoke and it dissipates twice as fast. It’s not completely odorless, so if you’re vaping in an enclosed area it is possible for people to smell what you’re doing. For most of the session it will smell just like normal smoke would, just less intense, and as you near the end it does start to smell a little bit like burnt popcorn.

      Any other questions just let me know

      Stay up!

    • Hey yea I mean the NO2 is definitely a decent vape but I consider the Pax great to excellent.

      If you vape mainly at home, it might not be completely worth it to upgrade, but if you want the ability to carry a vape around with you in your pocket and use on-the-go the Pax is awesome.

      It’s a fraction of the size of the NO2, and produces slightly better vapor. So I don’t know if it would be completely worth the upgrade if you only consider vapor quality, but if you want something more compact I absolutely recommend this one.

  104. Hey Bud,

    Do you ever get a funky smell from the oven before your about to clean it? I just cleaned mine for the first time and I’m hoping when I use it that funky stench will be gone. Did you experience any funky smell before your first time cleaning it? ( Side note: I had some vaped [herb] sitting in the chamber overnight)

    • Hey Justin,

      What I’ve noticed with mine is that during use, in the middle of a session, there will be a funky odor sometimes that comes from the oven, at the very bottom where the cover is.

      I can only smell it if I hold the oven up close to my nose, which I normally don’t do, so the odor usually goes unnoticed.

      Once it’s turned off and has a minute to cool down any smell it was producing is virtually gone, it doesn’t seem to linger on mine.

      If you left vaped material in there overnight there definitely could be some residual odor from that though.

  105. Hello! I am a big fan of your site man, I’ve given serious thoughts to buying a pax and came very close to buying it untill I noticed a common complaint, the mouthpiece getting stuck, now obviously you say this is a very nice vaporizer what with the taste and the discreetness of it all and the general quality of the unit, but I don’t know, everyone says if your mouthpiece gets stuck the unit it essentially worthless. before I go on a rant I just want to ask 1 question, have you encountered this problem? (okay two questions) and of you have is it indeed a vape ending problem? Thanks in advance friend. :)

    • Sup Jake,

      I only experienced a sticking mouthpiece once, and I’ve had my Pax for about 8 months.

      To get it unstuck I just had to push it a few extra times, and it’s been working fine ever since.

      I’m not totally sure what exactly is happening to the people who have this complaint, but I would imagine that if their vapes really did stop working they would be entitled to a replacement or repair under warranty.

      The most common issues I hear about are avoided by just keeping the unit clean, and applying the mouthpiece lubricant they now provide.

  106. Hey its ken again !
    I saw online of a picture of a Pax with a Skin around it. Iv always wanted to have my own skin or even alittle case around the unit. I did some searching but no luck. I just thought it was AMAZING having a personalized skin around the unit. Do you know where to find one ?

  107. Hey Man
    Love the site. Question: love my Pax, but ive used it for a few days and now the light shines red sometimes and it does not heat up. Any idea what that is? Also the mouthpiece doesnt pop up like before. Seems slow and clogged. What do you think?

  108. Hey bud, What do you think is the best way to keep the battery of the pax in perfect condition when not in use ? Is it better to just let it die out over the day or should i leave it on the charger when it is not being used

    • Hey Ken,

      Believe it or not it’s actually recommended by the mfg to just keep your Pax on the charger when you’re not using it.

      Apparently it’s better for these types of batteries to be “topped off” between uses, and not run down until it’s dead.

      This specific vape has some kind of sensor inside that knows when the battery is full, so even if you leave it on the charger for a long time it won’t over-charge or cause any damage.

  109. Loved your review. One comment to significantly improve performance of the Pax. Fill the chamber 1/3 to 1/2 full, then fill the remaining space with a piece of stainless steel wool, similar to what the Plenty does for small loads. I think the steel wool heats up b/c touching the chamber walls (that are hot), and it helps cook the material from the top down. The steel wool makes it easier to draw though, and no stirring at all is necessary. Nice hits from start to finish. The material comes out totally spent in a nice little brown mini brown brick.

    Cheers!! Wouldn’t vape with this thing any other way…

  110. I recently purchased a Pax from a local shop, and after only 1 use I’ve been having issues. I placed it on the charger right out of the box, and after maybe 10 minuets it said green and was good to go, so packed her with my “herbal blend” and used it for maybe 3-4 sessions (wasn’t completely dead when I was done), and has been on the charger ever since. It wasn’t flashing a yellow light while on the charger, and would still turn on, just seemed to be taking a long time to charge. I figured I’d let it charge over night, but when I woke up this morning I was greeted by a flashing green light, and a Pax that will not turn on at all. I haven’t found any help on any of the forums, and I’m still waiting to hear back from the company themselves, but overall I’m fairly disappointed to say the least.. considering the fact that I now have a $250 paper weight. Please get back to me as soon as you can, thank you.

    • Hey Mike,

      Did you ever get this straightened out with your Pax?

      Sometimes the charger has a tendency to not click in right which will prevent it from charging, is that what happened or was there something wrong with your unit?

  111. Hey Bud,

    I really love your reviews and videos and the credibility you give to vaping in general. I’ve always been interested in the science side of vaping vs. combustion and your video on temperatures was really interesting to me (along with those really cool USB microscope pics!).

    I’m new to vaping and went with the Pax for all the reasons you mentioned. I think the trade offs you make are more than justified by the benefits, and if you follow your tips on cleaning and maintenance most of the problems mentioned in this thread evaporate.

    One thing you mentioned in the vape temp video was that you eventually started to increase the temp of your Volcano to get more out of your herbs at the end of the session. With all things considered (vapor quality, complete vaporization, etc.), would you ever consider dong that to your Pax? Like if you started vaping on medium, does it make any sense to change the temp to high at the end of the session?

    I’ve tried it but haven’t really figured out if it makes a difference or not. I’d love to hear what you think. Thanks for the good work man.

    • Hey what’s up,

      Thanks for posting and for your kind words, I’m happy you enjoyed the vids.

      After experimenting a lot with higher temperatures in a bunch of different vapes, lately I’ve been vaping back down in the lower temps for the most comfortable vapor.

      You may squeeze out a little more from your material with the high temps, but it does change the taste and smoothness of the vapor so it’s not for everybody.

      The medium heat setting on the Pax is fairly intense IMO, so I don’t know if going to high heat is even necessary, but I have been experimenting with the low setting recently although with this vape I still think medium is probably best.

      Stay up!

  112. Hey, i am a big fan of the site. It convinced me to get my mflb. It works great but i use it daily and feel as if i need to upgrade. Money is not an issue however i was leaning towards portables because of the discreetness. Nobody knows i smoke so most of the time im not home when i do. What im asking is what is the best vaporizer to use daily on the go, that wont have a significant smell?

  113. Hey Bud….took your advice and got the Pax. It was great for about a month and died. We had two and my brother’s did exactly the same. VW was great. While I waited for my replacement I bought an MFLB, and a Arizer. Glad to have the Pax back. It’s the best. You mentioned a hard draw on both the Pax and Arizer. I noticed the same. I was able to fix the Pax by making sure the little cover inside the oven sits up on the side with the draw hole. If you have a Pax you know what I mean. The cover sits slightly ajar. It gives more space on the draw side and works great.

  114. Hey Bud,

    I just ordered the Pax, really excited based on all the things I’ve read. I’m wondering if it is relatively easy to get it virtually clean. I was thinking of taking this thing on an airplane but would want to make sure it was thoroughly cleaned beforehand. Also, does the highest temp setting burn the material? I have a vape that if you move the material around while in use, the material gets closer to the heat and burns it. I’m wondering if there is any sort of concern like this for this device. Thanks.

    • Hey Ben,

      It’s fairly easy to clean this vape, and I actually have a full tutorial video now on how to do it, but I can’t really comment on traveling with it, you’d have to determine that yourself after going through the cleaning process.

      The highest heat setting doesn’t burn your material but it does overheat it in my opinion, making the vapor a little hot, so I mainly keep mine on the default medium setting.

      This vape performs best when the oven is fully packed and if it is you won’t have any issues with your material moving around inside there.

      Let me know how you like it!

  115. Hey man great work. I just bought the pax and love it. The battery will only last about two sessions at med. heat on a full charge. Does cold weather affect battery? Any suggestions?

  116. After 30 years of smoking, my lungs just couldn’t take it anymore. I first tried a vaporizer about ten years ago,,, first gereration type big wood box, and really liked it, but never got one for myself. Around Christmas time, I decided to get one as a present to myself,, ended up getting a piece of junk, called a VAPE-OR-SMOKE, from my local smoke shop. I was attracted by the idea of a portable device, but it really was nothing more than a $130 pipe with a built in lighter. It kinda of turned me off to the wholle vaporizer scene, but after a recent chest cold, it was time to do something. This time I did a little more research, and your site was an amazing source & wealth of information.

  117. — I was going to get either the Plenty or the PAX, and went to the local head shop yesterday to check one out. When I mentioned the PAX his eyes lit up, and was very familiar with it. They didn’t have any, but as luck would have it, they were expecting some to come in today. You can probably guess by my rambling that they did come in today, and I got one, sleek black. I absolutely love it! Thanx again for your and everybody’s input here

  118. Hey man, really like your reviews. I have a question, how much herb fors it take to fill up the chamber completely? 0.5g? 1g?

    • Hey to completely fill the oven takes from about .25g to .4g depending on the fluffiness of the material

      It can be used with less material if it’s tightly packed down, but performance is best when it’s packed full

  119. I got the pax ploom! Overall i like it a lot. You definelty have to pack it into the oven tight. My first run with it i just put finely grinded herbs in w/o packing and it didn’t work too well. Works great as long as its packed. Only negative so far is that you do feel the heat on your lips not enough to burn but sometimes uncomfortably hot.

  120. Excellent site and great reviews, well done. I’m a novice and estimate you saved me a week’s worth of time researching vaporizers. Thanks.

    I think I’m going to go with the Pax. Its mid priced, portable and most important looks simple.

  121. Hey man I got to say I liked the review I thought it was very helpful and had a question, can you mix up the herb well the Pax is on? Another question does the herb need to be mixed up at any point during a session?

    • Hey Scott glad to hear!

      Technically yes, you can open the oven any time you want, even if the vape is on, and mix up your material. It’s super easy to turn the vape off and on though, so if you were to do this I would recommended quickly clicking it off before opening the chamber, just to be safe.

      I don’t personally find that it’s really necessary though, I rarely do it myself, but some people have told me that they do, and it definitely can’t hurt.

      • Hey Bud,

        One thing I would recommend if you open the oven during use…don’t use the oven lid to tamp down the material into the oven. On the high setting (and sometimes on the medium setting) the oven sides are hot enough to melt the plastic on the back of the oven lid. My lid has a few melt marks from doing this. Only superficial, and if it bothers you they sell new oven lids for $20. The plastic they use is heat resistant, but when you are talking temps of 400+ make sure to be careful cause melting can occur.

  122. Hey Bud, I bought the Pax this past weekend and it is great. The shop I bought it from recommended applying avocado oil, which I didn’t really follow what he was talking about at the time. I saw a video that Pax provides a mouthpiece lubrication but mine didn’t come with that. I am wondering if the avocado oil that was referenced is for this…to lubricate slightly the metal parts of the mouthpiece when doing my overall cleaning of the unit in order to prevent it sticking.
    Any thoughts/opinion? Thank you.

    • Sup Jake,

      Glad you’re diggin the vape.

      My guess would be that yes they were referring to using it as the mouthpiece lubricant.

      I’ve only used the Ploom lube on mine (pretty sure it’s food-grade propylene glycol), so I’m not 100% sure how avocado oil would work, but if you end up trying it definitely let me know how it works out!

      Applying lubricant after cleaning it with rubbing alcohol is important to avoid any issues – I made a cleaning tutorial not too long ago if you need any tips on how to do it:

      http://www.vapecritic.com/blog/2013/03/12/pax-cleaning/

  123. Hi Bud,
    Recently bought a Pax – very happy with it, but have a quick question:
    My Pax tends to get VERY hot to hold after a while. Is this normal? I have it set to the medium temperature setting.
    Oh, boy, it sure is hard to get screens for this vape. OUT OF STOCK! (must be pretty popular!).
    Thanks for taking the time to respond.

    • Hey Reggie,

      It shouldn’t be getting so hot that it’s uncomfortable, just slightly warm.

      One cause I can think of is if the oven isn’t fully packed and tightly patted down – is there any empty space in your chamber when you use it or is your material loosely packed?

      It’s definitely a very popular model so there may be slight backorders sometimes unfortunately, but you shouldn’t have to change screens very often – if you take it out and let it sit in rubbing alcohol for a few hours you should then be able to scrub any residue or buildup off.

  124. i purchased a pax which only came with the disinfectant wipes and pipe cleaners. it did not come with the lubricant. i assume i purchased an older model and was wondering if there were any other differences between the models that come with the lubricating packets vs the models that do not.
    thanks

    • Hey Eric,

      The mouthpiece lubricant is something that some stores starting including a few months ago, just depends where you bought yours from, but the vape itself is still the same.

    • 90% of the time I just use my Space Case to grind the herbs up before loading my Pax, and the performance is more than fine.

      Occasionally I’ll re-grind in the Magic-Flight Finishing grinder if I really want to maximize the vapor density, but you do end up using slightly more material.

      So I guess my answer would be yes, I recommend it and it works well, but it’s def not necessary for good results.

  125. Hey,

    Great review man, i just ordered mine and im super pumped. However, how often do you change the screen, and how many does it come with (One already in the unit and 1 extra)? Also if im going away for 2 months will the cleaning tools with the unit be enough (5 pipe cleaners, 2 mouthpiece lubricants, and 1 screen)? Thanks for your time

    • Hey Jack,

      The “screen” is actually just a stainless steel plate, there’s no holes in it, so it can be cleaned over and over again with no affect on performance.

      I’ve had my unit for about a year now and I think I only changed the screen piece once, mainly for cosmetic reasons.

      The cleaning kit it comes with should be enough for at least a few months, but I do recommend picking up some of those interdental brushes I show in my cleaning video and maybe some extra pipe cleaners also.

      You should be able to go about a dozen sessions between cleanings.

  126. Hey Bud,
    Noob here, gathering a lot of valuable info from you – thanks!. Just bought the pax and trying it out with mint and tobacco for now. What I’m finding is that I really just get 2-3 hits per (fairly) full filling. After that, I’m not not getting anymore. The flavor after the first hit just quickly disappears. Not getting much cloud production either. Looking at the remains, I see some browning, but the majority is still unused.

    Assuming my technique is correct (which very well may not be – just started) can this be because of a defective unit? I’ve looked at the clouds from your videos, mine does not even come close. The pax light indicators seem to all be functioning properly. Or is it the mint? Should you get more that 3 hits from a bowl of peppermint?

    • Hey Dave,

      I have a feeling it’s the material you’re vaping.

      Different herbs will produce varying amounts of visible vapor, but under most circumstances you’ll get the best results by grinding your material very fine, packing the oven full and tight, and taking long, slow draws.

      Let me know if you get better results after trying it with other stuff.

  127. [VW] is suppressing my negative review of the PAX — this is the store you recommended. Just wanted to let you know!!

    Do not trust the reviews on [VW]!!

    Also, the PAX is terrible. This thing has so many tricks to it, not sure how anyone can call it “easy to use”. Just a waste of money and material if you ask me.

    • Hey Ben,

      I just checked and they actually did post your review.

      If you’re not getting any vapor out of it you might not be using it correctly – check out my “vape session” video for tips on how to use it or just get back to me here and I’ll help you out.

      It’s a good vape, if you can’t get it to work we can fix that.

      • :) I was a bit heated when I wrote this. But I have it working a lot better now! Here’s a few things I learned:

        – Most important!! Use the free grinder that came with it. my Chromium Crusher is crap to vape with even turning it upside-down; and now questioning the logic of separating pollen with my specific material anyway (seems stupid).

        – take the mouthpiece out directly after a session (while hot). Do not slide the residue covered shaft down into the hard-to-reach area.

        – No idea if this matters, but when charging between sessions I charge chamber-side down. just wrap the cord around the pax a couple times to keep the the little dock platform in place at the top of the device.

        I now prefer my pax over smoking, as long as I’m by myself! I think the pax could work in a group of experienced vap’ers but noobs mess up the chamber, inhale too hard, let the light sit on the batter color, etc etc. they don’t know all the tricks, which I think is its downside — too many tricks to learn.

        Thanks for all your reviews and your nice reply, even though I was clearly raging for no reason =)

  128. I figured out the draw issue. If you don’t lip lock seal the pax mouthpiece you get the feel of a easy pull. Plus the design seems to make this really easy and allows you to whisp the vapor out. I believe this is the best method. Easier then micro pulls on the magic box.

    Try it out you will be happy. By not creating a seal you eliminate one of your major concerns.

    Take it easy

  129. Yo bud you are the man! Def followed your advice and I’ve picked up both the Volcano (which I love) and the pax (which i’m not sure about). The draws are extremely difficult and sometimes rather inconveniently the pax stays open when you would like to close it. Perhaps I am doing something wrong? It was like two days old then the top started to get unreliable. I cleaned it and left off the bottom screen in the oven (by accident) caught it. So no harm no foul but don’t feel confident I can take to the Hard Rock vape outside and then come back in if I’m not sure it will stay down. Now removing and replacing the mouthpiece sometimes fixes this but shouldn’t it function more reliably (also draws feel like sucking a fribble). Did I mention the volcano rocks! Also going back to not vaping makes everything taste like ash!! Stay Vapey my friend!

    Keep it real Bud your doing a solid

    • Hey man thanks for posting

      I’m glad you’re diggin the Volcano!

      The Pax does have some draw resistance but believe it or not the Solo is even harder!

      Sometimes the mouthpiece can be a little finicky but it definitely shouldn’t stay open, you might need to just focus the pressure on one side when you push it down, and try pushing very slowly until it clicks.

      That’s the main part of it that gets complaints, and I’ve had a couple issues with it myself but I’ve always been able to get it working like new again – definitely let me know if it’s working better for you now or not.

      Sometimes residue buildup on any of the mouthpiece connections can also cause it to act funny, so if you’re still having issues with it cleaning the connections quickly with rubbing alcohol could possibly help.

      Stay up!

      • Bud I found the issues I was having with the Pax easier to manage the more feel I got for it. For one the heat settings are important I like the factory orange or med hot as it’s about the temperature I set my Volcano at. When it’s not doing what I want it to i’ll set it to hot and get easier draws out of it but really again with the pax so much is feel.Definitely my on the go device. (on that note do you know of a car charger adapter feature?) #Volcanoaboveallothers

  130. I purchased a new PAX in January , loved it but last week it quit charging and because I purchased it from an [auction site] and not directly from [an authorized dealer] they WILL NOT honor their warranty . Kind of disgusted with Ploom if you ask me .

    • Hey I’m really sorry to hear about your troubles, but that is one of the big risks with buying vapes on auction or discount sites. It’s not just Ploom, most vape companies work this way. I updated my ‘Where to Buy’ page recently to make this clearer for everyone so there are no surprises, a full explanation can be found here.

  131. I bought a PAX today at my local shop.

    The PAX is charging, my material has been finely grinded, and all is well except for one thing I noticed. I try clicking slowly, the top back in and it takes many clicks before it stays shut.

    • Hey Randy,

      Sometimes the mouthpiece can be a little finicky, especially when you first start using it, but once you get used to how much pressure to apply to it and how quickly to push it in you probably won’t have that issue anymore.

      Let me know if this is a persistent problem for you or if it goes away, and enjoy the vape!

        • Hey thanks that makes it much easier to diagnose.

          What you’ll notice is that the mouthpiece clicks into place (stays shut) at about the 95% point of being depressed, or in other words right before it hits the very bottom when you’re pushing it in.

          If you press it down very quickly like you’re doing in the video the latch doesn’t have a chance to secure the mouthpiece so it instead pops back up.

          Try being gentler with the mouthpiece and push it in more slowly, that way you’ll be able to feel the “catch” point better. If you push it “all” the way in it will always pop back up.

  132. First your website and video reviews are awesome. Thank you for taking most of the guess work out of making a several hundred dollar purchase.

    Second I’m thinking about buying the Pax but I have one question I haven’t seen answered. I’ve seen in your reviews and comments that the Pax works best when the oven chamber is packed full and tight. If you had a ballpark guess how much(gram wise) would you say it need to function properly? Thank you very much for any feedback you can provide and keep up the great work.

    • Hey thanks I’m glad you found it helpful!

      You are correct that this vape does perform best with a full oven. The amount required to fill it can vary but generally the range is 0.25g to 0.4g of material. With a fully packed chamber you can expect approximately 20 draws of vapor.

      There is also a way to use it with a half-packed oven but the performance is not quite as good, still pretty decent though.

      To do this you take a standard round screen and you bend up the edges so that it forms a U shape. Tightly pack down a half-chamber full of herbs and then place the screen on top of it, with the bottom of the U against your material. Sometimes the edges of the screen need to be clipped off to make it fit inside the oven.

      Basically the idea is you want pressure against the herbs otherwise it won’t vaporize well. Some of the most common issues people experience with this vape are caused by not packing the chamber enough or leaving it loosely packed, which both hinder performance.

      If you do the half-packing thing it’ll produce vapor it just won’t be quite as dense and you obviously won’t get as many draws out of it.

  133. Hey, Bud!

    This is the third portable vape we’ve invested in (we still have our old school Vape Bros tabletop model, as well–still an excellent mechanism!), and it’s everything you’ve said it was and then some! We’ve had a great month of vaping with the Pax.

    For those who appreciate something that’s intelligently-designed, discreet, and consistent, look no further than the Pax! Purchase via your VW link was easy, and our Pax arrived in a week. Compared to other portable vapes, the Pax’s streamlined, minimal-parts design makes it easy to understand and quicker to vape. Your review was absolutely comprehensive, but for those that may relish a “peer review” more, here are a few thoughts that may help:

    Those having trouble with the draw should play with the three settings to find what’s right for them. We like the middle setting, because we don’t relish the burn, and don’t need to see big clouds to know it’s effective. You can still over-hit on both the medium and high settings, so if you still relish those clouds and the burn, have at it.

    Keep the unit clean. Make an effort to clean the screen and unit itself on the regular, and you won’t be hitting gunk. Buy a couple of backup screens for when you’re traveling or otherwise can’t clean, but don’t let this sit like that old [pipe] you used to stash under your bed, full of resin. Empty the oven before charging it–whatever’s inside will heat up on charge.

    We find that three fairly voracious adults can have a decent session before the product within the oven gives expires.

    It’s essential to grind your smokeable product finely before vaping. Let it dry out a bit in the air. Sticky/green stuff can work with other mechanisms, but it’s not so great with the Pax.

    Pack the oven! We cannot emphasize this enough. Just do it.

    Leftover oven product has some potency. Bake with it, make butter–don’t let it go to waste, because it’s not burnt–just a wee bit toasted/dry, like cigarette tobacco.

    Sure it’s a little more expensive than some of the portables, but as someone who’s thrown money at a few of them, with mediocre results, we couldn’t be more happy with the Pax. Thanks, Bud!

  134. Hey dude

    Love the site man. I bought the magic flight on your recommendation and I love it but I find it a bit messy when I’m out and about. So I have decided to upgrade to a Pax, I tried to buy one from VW like you said but they don’t ship to Ireland(where I’m from obviously). Any chance you would know where to buy it that ships internationally?

    Cheers man and keep up the good work

    • Hey man thanks, glad you’re diggin the MFLB but I know what you mean about using it on-the-go. I’m not sure where else to recommend buying this vape that will ship overseas I’m really sorry man!! I’m still not sure why they’re not shipping it internationally yet, I think the manufacturer placed some restrictions :\

  135. Hey bud really like the videos. I’m new to the vaping world and I was definetly thinking on spending the 200 dollars on the pax because of your review. But I keep reading mixed reviews, some say its worth it others say it breaks alot. Is the pax truly worth the 200+ dollars for a portable discreet vape? My intentions are to use it atleast 5-6 days of the week always filling the oven to the top or I won’t use it all. Do you think it’s worth it?

    • Hey Erick thanks for posting.

      You are right that there are mixed reviews for this vape, but I still like and use mine all the time, and I still think it’s worth it.

      If you don’t mind having to clean it every 10 sessions or so I feel it’s the best choice for vaping on-the-go. Any time I leave home and want to take a vape with me this is the one I grab.

      As you mentioned for best results always pack the oven full and make sure you use very finely ground up material.

  136. Dude, knowledge of the products are on point but bro…..maybe i am doing something wrong.
    When I watch ur video about how much vape u r gettting im shocked! like WTF am i doing wrong>?>>>>??
    I dont get no vape like that. I get shit. My vape sucks. I followed the directions and all that bs but it ant no way near the vape you are getting.
    is there a way we can communicate and u get point out what i am doing wrong here.

    I pack it tight, (like a virgin)
    grind up the herbs
    make sure its fully charged
    when the light turns green i inhale (long time)
    i get little vapor….
    why>????’

    your expertize is awesome

    please shed light how i can get as much vape as u do

    • Hey man,

      I’m going to try and create a new tips video or blog post soon but this is what I would do…

      I would try grinding your herbs finer, and I would experiment with different draw methods.

      In my video I have my material ground up so fine it’s almost like sand. I get it that way with the Magic-Flight finishing grinder, but you should be able to get it close with a good 2-piece grinder, you just have to make sure your material is fully dried out and you grind it up a lot.

      That’s probably the most important part, your stuff has to be dry and VERY fine.

      What you can also try is instead of taking one long draw you can almost puff it like a cigar and take a bunch of small draws in succession. It’s hard to explain but I think if you experiment a little you’ll find the groove to make it work better.

      Let me know how you make out

  137. I already had an No2 when I decided to purchase the Pax; and I have been seriously regretting it since. I got to use it 3 times before the mouthpiece got stuck down and then had to send it into the company. Got it back and the orange light problem began, which was so frustrating I just gave up on it because I never got any decent vapor when I draw on it anyway. Emailed the company for help, and followed their advice on cleaning it and applying lube as precisly as possible, and then right after I finished yesterday the damn mouthpiece got stuck down again as soon as I closed it. My pax has been so poorly made that I haven’t even been able to use it. Is this experience really that atypical of other Pax owners? I personally know 3 others who have had the mouthpiece get stuck and not one who has had a good experience with this device. Did we just get poorly made units that need to get replaced?

    • Hey Corey,

      I’m sorry to hear about the troubles you’re having.

      The mouthpiece getting permanently stuck down is not a very common issue, but a few people have mentioned it to me.

      I’ve been using mine regularly for a year now and never experienced that, and one of my good friends bought one a few months ago and it still works great too.

      I’m not positive what causes the mouthpiece to get completely stuck, but perhaps it’s related to how quickly or with how much pressure you’re pushing it down, or maybe you really did just get a defective one.

      You mentioned personally knowing 3 other people who this happened to but I really don’t believe the issue is that widespread, there may be something else in the equation here that we’re missing.

      The orange light problem is 99% of the time resolved with a thorough cleaning. If you clean it and it still happens you may just need to clean again more carefully. The problem area is where the mouthpiece connects to the vapor path, so that’s where you should focus scrubbing and lubricating with the inter-dental brush. If you haven’t seen my cleaning tutorial you can watch it here: http://www.vapecritic.com/blog/2013/03/12/pax-cleaning/

      As far as vapor production this thing definitely rips when used properly. Check out this post I just put up on my blog where I talk about how to get the best performance: http://www.vapecritic.com/blog/2013/07/08/pax-tips/

      I also have a vape session video near the top of this page showing how much vapor you can get.

      You have to grind your material very fine, and you get the best results when you fully & tightly pack the oven. There is also a way to use it with a half-packed oven which I talk more about in that blog post.

      Overall this is one of my favorite vapes and I use it all the time, I hope you’re able to resolve your issues with it so that you can enjoy it too.

      If I can help out any more don’t hesitate to let me know.

      Stay up!

    • You’ll get the absolute best performance if you vape it all in one session, but it still works very well if you want to stop halfway through and reheat the rest at a later time.

      There’s also a way to use this vape packed only halfway (about 0.15g) which I talk more about in my latest “Pax Tips” post on my blog.

  138. This video was EXTREMELY helpful. I’m a singer, and this vape has really saved my cords! :) It feels very healthy, and as a result, I vape much less than I ever smoked. Great product :)

  139. Big fan! I’ve watched a number of your videos and you’ve successfully helped me purchase my Volcano (WOW!!!!) and also my Magic Flight (wow!)

    I know u kind of discussed the Pax vs the Magic Flight

    Is there any reason to get the Pax if I already own a MFLB? I mean, will I have better quality [effects] from the Pax or something?

    I ask because on VWs Facebook they posted 3 portable vapes including the MFLB, the Solo and I forget…

    But 2 commenters immediately said “why no Pax?”

    So that got me wondering if I should look into it. I’m pretty happy with MFLB so I only want to switch if I will get amazing vapor and amazing “results” when compared to magic flight.

    What are your thoughts? Save for a Pax because “it’s that much better than the magic flight”? Or “stay with the magic flight” or what not?

    Thank You. Keep making vids! Love em!

    • Hey glad to hear it! and great choices with the Volcano and MFLB.

      It’s hard to say which models would be best for every person but in my opinion the Pax is a bit easier to use and more convenient to carry around, and it does generally produce more vapor than the Launch Box.

      I usually use my LB for small sessions, or a few draws here and there, and the Pax when I want a slightly stronger experience (it’s also my go-to vape when I leave home and want something to take with me).

      Check out this post on my blog where I talk more about the differences between my favorite portables:

      http://www.vapecritic.com/blog/2013/04/20/best-portable/

      Stay up!

  140. What does it mean when the pax turns blue while using it? I haven’t noticed the oven shutting off or anything. I still a good draw out of it. Just bought this beautiful thing and enjoying every minute of it.

    Thanks

    • That means it went into “standby” mode, which happens when the unit doesn’t detect movement for 20 seconds.

      When it turns blue the heat is lowered in the oven to conserve your material, and as soon as the vape is moved again or picked up it’ll automatically re-heat to the previous temp.

      Glad you’re enjoying it!

  141. Hey, just wanted to say thank you for your videos. Because of them I purchased a Pax a few days ago and I couldn’t be happier! The ease of use and design is just amazing. Pull it out of the box fill it and boom its on. I was skeptical a small device could produce a nice amount of vapor but it quickly proved me wrong.

  142. 2 tips: 1) You can cool down the vape, and ease the draw, by rockering the lid on the oven. Use it like a carb. Press on one side, and the other will pop open a bit… it is just attached by a magnet. This increases air flow into the oven chamber, cooling the vape and easing the draw.

    2) For light use on a PAX (a couple of hits) treat the oven chamber like a production line. Determine which end is lined up with the mouthpiece channel. When you use the PAX, make a little room in that end of the chamber by pushing the old, partially cooked herbs to the other end, and put in about 1/3 chamber of fresh herbs in the end over the mouthpiece channel.

    Question: how many draws do you get on a full chamber? Do you notice a drop in vape quality if you do a few draws, turn off the PAX, and come back to it hours later?

  143. Thanks for your reviews. You just made me buy the Pax. can’t wait to receive it.
    It’s going to be my first vape experience.

    I have a question. Sorry if it was already asked before, but i can’t read all comments:
    If you fill the oven full, can you just take a few draws (4 or 5), then turn the PAX off, and keep it for later (or even the day after)?

    • Hey yes you can do that but I only really recommend re-heating the herbs one more time after the initial session for best vapor quality.

      For using small amounts there is a trick you can do in the oven, and if you only want to take a few draws at a time that’s what I would probably recommend doing.

      You can read about the half-pack method here.

  144. Hey man Im a subscriber and I contantly watch your videos I recently buy the Pax havent get it yet but I had seen that you recomend grinding it very fine I saw your video about grinders review the thing is that I actually find it dificult to buy the magic flight finishing grinder so is there any tips or any way to grind your material very fine without an specialized grinder, sorry for my english and keep up the good work

    • Hey I’ve heard that most coffee grinders will work but if you don’t have one I would recommending grinding in whatever you have, laying your grinds out on a sheet of paper to completely dry out, then re-grinding again to break it down a little more. I talk more about this in this video: http://www.vapecritic.com/vaporizers/performance/

      This you can do with any 2-piece grinder, and if you have a 4-piece one thing you could try is turning it upside-down when you grind so that the action mimics a 2-pc.

      Basically it just comes down to most herbs being easier to grind fine when they’re fully dried out.

  145. hey Vape Critic,

    I’m starting to come around regarding the Pax unit. At first I was blinded by my love for my new Launch Box (which I still love..I’m just not blinded anymore)but after watching your Pax review a couple times as well other related vids I definitely see the beauty of it and am convinced enough that I want to get one, but

    1) I’m new to vaping, do new vaporizer models come out every year like an iPhone? Because I want to get the latest model but not if the new one comes out in a month; I’d rather wait. So I guess my question is: do u know when the next “updated Pax” will come out? Or should I just get the one currently on the market?

    2) this is regarding all the portable vapes in general. What do users like u and I do when we have to go to an all day event? I mean u said the Pax is good for 1 hour usage time. Lets say I’m going to Disneyland; how do I stay vaped-up? I know there are car chargers for the pax and the Launch Box (those are the only 2 portables I have) but u can’t go to your car once you’re in the park u know? The Launch Box has batteries I can bring in….I just don’t want to be looking like Rambo but instead of bullets I have a hundred batteries strapped across my chest LOL

    Thanks for taking all my questions. Thanks to u I havn’t wasted a dime on bad vapes and vaping companies ;~)

    +Æ*—

    • Hey what’s up,

      That’s a good question, sometimes vape companies come out with new versions less than a year from their original release date, and sometimes vapes stay exactly the same for a decade.

      As far as I know Ploom doesn’t have any plans to release a new Pax version any time in the near future, so I think it’s safe to pick up the current model.

      For your second question I would say there are definitely some limitations with portables as far as having to be recharged, but I do think one person should be able to get by on a single Pax charge for the whole day there.

      If you figure you’ll get about an hour of vaping from a full charge you could break that down into 4-6 sessions of 10-15 mins, vaping at a slightly faster pace than usual.

      But if that’s not enough you could always bring two vapes! ;)

      and LOL to the Rambo reference :P

  146. Hi!!! First it all thanks for your information is really useful, I got my Pax few weeks ago, I really like it … But I have a question, about the herb, how I can notice when is ready and I have to change for new herb? Because sometimes I open the oven door and the color is changing to brown but still having a green stuff there … So should I do change when is totally brown?

    Thanks you!!!

    Haaa I really like have a lot vapor in my mouth so I’m trying with the higher
    Temperature

    Saludos one Chilean girl who lives in USA

    • Hey Gabriela,

      Yes, you would change out the material when it is totally brown and you no longer get any vapor from it.

      To get the most vapor just make sure you grind your herb very fine, almost like coarse salt, it really helps a lot.

      Enjoy!

  147. Hey Bud,

    I’ve owned the mflb for about 2 years and like it a lot, but its time for an upgrade I also have an eq an like arizer products but I have chosen not to go with the solo. My Search is down to the pax which you clearly enjoy, but the DaVinci Ascent look dope, I’d like to see it compared to the Pax.

    Thanks,
    Mike

    • Hey Mike thanks for your request.

      The release of the Ascent has been delayed for many months so I’m not sure when it will be available, but I will be buying one to review when it is.

  148. Bud, you rock!

    I just got my pax today but I haven’t used it yet. I wanted to lookup some more info/advice on it and was directed to your video. You provided all the info I was looking for both in the video and here, responding to questions.

    The tip for doing a half fill is perfect. Most times, I just need to take a [draw] or two and I’m good(unless I’m partying it up). I don’t want my herb to go to waste so thanks for that clever tip.

    OK, time to try this thing out…

  149. Hey Bud,

    I love the Pax. I’ve been using it for over a year since I came across your review. Ploom customer service is great. They sent me a new one no questions asked when mine stopped working after about a year. And, the mouthpiece lube is a worthwhile improvement.

    One thing I thought I’d mention is that I had usually been using it on medium heat until recently, when I started using it on high. I find that the vapor is much heavier on high regardless of how much or little I put in it. As little as two pinches or 4 pinches, which fills it produces strong, thick vapor, although full generally produces the thickest. And, when only putting two pinches, which fills it half or less, I get 15-20 [draws], 10 of which are fairly thick. I find that I must tap it gently to mix a bit after each toke when half full and that I have to open and tap again until it is spread out to get the best [draws]. I tried the rolled screen, but found that I actually had to put a bit more in there for the screen to be effective.

    It definitely does need to be clean fairly often, but cleaning is simple and the device is well worth the small amount of maintenance it requires.

    I use my Pax exclusively now because I find I no longer cough up phlegm and other junk like I used to from water-pipes and other forms of combustion.

    Thanks man!!

    • Awesome Doc thanks for posting!

      I’m really glad you’re still lovin it, and it’s been a while so I think I’m gonna give the high heat setting a few more tries.

      Stay up!

  150. Hey Bud! I found your site and read practically all your reviews on portable vapes. I like the Pax but its too pricey for a first timer in my opinion. I am looking for something easy that works well at home and also on the go that doesnt require oil/wax. Just herb. Have you tried [pen vapes] or something similar? I would really appreciate your feedback. I am new to this and am looking for the thinnest or smallest most convenient portable herb vape since I know there are no “best” ones. My husband has been having issues with phlegm and lots of coughing due to burning rather than vaping herbs. Thanks in advance! Love your site!

    • Hey Diana,

      What I’ve found is that the pen-style vaporizers you see on the market are really designed for use with concentrates (oil/wax), and the ones that say they work with herbs really don’t (they burn it).

      My AtmosRaw review has more info about this if you haven’t seen it: http://www.vapecritic.com/vaporizers/atmosraw/

      So as of now I don’t know of any good vape pens for herbs. If the Pax is a little too pricey right now I would recommend going with the Magic-Flight Launch Box: http://www.vapecritic.com/vaporizers/launch-box/

      It’s not thin like a pen but it is fairly small, inexpensive, and does a pretty good job of vaporizing herbs.

  151. Hey Bud, first off, thanks for all of your reviews. Very thorough. I really want the pax. It looks awesome. Will it work well by fully packing it and pulling of it occasionally through the day? I just don’t think I’ll want to clear out a fully packed oven every time I use it. I know other ones would work better for smaller amounts. I’m just already set on buying the pax. Just curious. Thanks again.

  152. Hey there VapeCritic! Hope you’re doing well :-)

    I’ve owned a pax vaporizer for just under a year now and I’ve found that packing the oven very tight provides the best density and vapor quality. I’m curious to know what type of vapor quality you receive without packing the oven fully.

    One thing I’ve noticed with pax, is when taking draws, wait about 10 seconds between hits, you should get better plumes of vapor with waiting between draws due to the fact that Pax’s oven is continuously heating and is constantly creating more vapor. For example if you turn on pax and wait 10 seconds AFTER the light turns green, you’ll get a much thicker and dense vapor quality! Also the high setting is the most
    Potent ;)

    Have you ever filled the oven half way? If so, what is the quality of vapor produced? I’ve heard some good and some bad things about not filling it all the way

    Thanks

    Cory Bourrier

    • Hey Cory,

      Thanks for posting, and my apologies for the delayed response!

      Most people do report best results when the material is tightly packed (and oven full) but I’ve gotten good results lightly packing the herbs also, it just can’t be loose in the chamber and it needs to be ground up very fine. Whatever method works best for you is the way to go.

      After much experimenting I did start using a packing method sometimes where you only need to fill the oven halfway. You’ll still get the absolute best results with a fully packed oven, but you can get good performance with a half-pack using the method I describe in this post: http://www.vapecritic.com/blog/2013/07/08/pax-tips/

      I’ve found that as long as my material is ground up fine and nicely packed I can still get good vapor production this way and use less material, the sessions just don’t last as long (fewer draws per load).

  153. I understand the MFLB is the best when it comes to smell but is the solo or Pax or something else comparable where you could do it in your room with a fan and window and be fine?

    • Yes absolutely, the odor is in the vapor so generally the more vapor you produce the more it smells but it’s very easy to manage vapor odor, a little ventilation or deodorizer should do the trick.

  154. Hey Bud, thanks for the great review.

    Currently I have the MFLB which works great. I have to be sneaky while smoking so low oder is a must for me. How does the Pax compare to the MFLB in regards to the amount of smell?

  155. Hey men, what up.
    I really liked your blog, its clean and easy to navigate from, so congrats.
    My question. I see that its very easy to load it, so hows the unloading part? Is it easy to take out the rest of the herbs?
    Thanks

    • Hey thanks man, this vape is just as easy to unload as it is to load – all you need is a little poker or brush and with a few swipes inside the oven all of your spent material will fall out.

  156. Not a fan of this product. I read all of the reviews, watched all of the videos and thought I had come across the next greatest thing for an old hippie! SAVE YOUR MONEY! I am certainly in the minority however I have received better results from a corn cob pipe. The folks at PAX were great. They offered suggestions which I had already tried. If you are thinking of purchasing the PAX I would strongly suggest finding someone that has the PAX and try before buy! Not the fault of PAX regarding the no return however an expensive lesson learned.

    The PAX waste your flower. I cannot make it any plainer than that. I have also been able to take the “vaped” material and resmoke in a conventional pipe with plenty of pop left in the flower.

    PAX has done a great job of marketing this item. Go into any retailer and they will sing the praise of PAX. Perhaps in the $79.00 price range I could justify however personally I would not take another one if given free.

    So for those of you that find it a working and useful product, I salute you. For those like me, an expensive mistake.

    • Hey man sorry to hear you’re disappointed with it!

      It really is a good vape though, if I can assist you in any way to make your experience better I gladly will.

      If your material is very finely ground up and you fully pack the chamber (on medium heat) you should get at least 20 good draws, which from 0.3g to 0.4g of material is definitely not in the wasteful category.

      Remember that you must take longer draws when vaping than with other methods, you should typically pull for about 10 seconds. Also your material must be tightly packed inside the oven, if it’s loose in there you won’t get good results and it will feel like it’s being wasted.

      Also with the packing method I describe here you can pack the oven only half full (approx 0.15g to 0.2g) and get about 10 good draws from it before it’s spent, which is also pretty efficient.

      Have you tried any other vaporizers? If not you just may not be used to the feeling or experience of vaping, it’s different than more traditional methods especially in the beginning and it takes a little getting used to for some people.

  157. I have a issues with the pax:
    1. Pop out the mouthpiece the indicator light will flash one time long and 5 time short and the PAX go off.
    2. When placed the pax on the charger, indicator light do not cam on.
    3. If you pull the mouthpiece out, the indicator light will flash one time long and 5 time short and the PAX go off, and put it on the charger without mouthpiece Charging working correctly
    Please if you can help me with this problem.
    Thanks

    • Hey Romi,

      Sorry to hear about your troubles!

      When the light flashes five times before shutting off is it flashing a blue color?

      If I’m understanding you correctly it sounds like there may be an issue with your unit. I would contact the store you bought it from and/or contact Ploom directly to get it repaired if it is indeed malfunctioning. Be as specific as possible if you contact them and tell them what colors the lights are blinking, they should get it straightened out for you without a problem, if there is a problem let me know!

        • Hmm I’m not positive but it sounds like something may be wrong, I would send Ploom an email and describe the issue in detail and they should be able to help you out.

          Let me know if you’re not able to get this figured out.

  158. Hey man looking to buy the vape. Thank you for all the good content you create. The videos you make are very helpful.
    I also want to applaud you for replying to all these comments, you have great dedication to what you do and i have great respect for you.

  159. I am looking for a portable vape that does the job. The most important thing to me though is durability. Everyone I know who has a vape like a gpen and stuff have all broken. I have seen your cleaning video for the pax and i am fine with doing all that stuff, but is the pax going to last for me? And if not what are the replacement options? Have you ever had to fix anything with it?

    • I definitely hear ya, most pen vapes are sketchy like that and tend to not last a long time.

      I do think the Pax is fairly durable, I actually just had my first issue with it since I got it but Ploom did the right thing and took care of it.

      This is all stuff I was going to talk about in an update soon but the short version is my unit started malfunctioning recently and I had to get it replaced.

      Keep in mind I had it for 15 months, I had one of the earliest demo units before it was fully released, and it was heavily used during those 15 months.

      I started getting an error light recently when I would turn it on so I contacted Ploom and explained everything that was happening and they took my unit in to repair it. Ultimately it wasn’t fixable so they sent me a replacement, and I’m happy with how they handled the whole procedure.

      It’s definitely not a cheapy product like most pen vapes but if something does happen to go wrong with it they have a good warranty. Other than that the only maintenance is keeping it clean and other than maybe one new screen a year there are no other parts you should need to replace.

      Overall, with everything considered, I really missed it for the week it was gone and still think it’s one of the best vapes I’ve reviewed.

      The Solo could be considered a little more durable (aside from the glass) but it’s definitely not as portable and convenient as the Pax, I consider that a good cordless home vape.

      Hope this helps, any other questions let me know!

  160. Vape critic, you provide an outstanding service and you do it well. Much appreciated!

    As a beginner to all of this, I bought a Pax a few weeks ago and I love it. A very small amount of material goes a long way, providing a good session for two people. Just follow the Critic’s steps — grind well and fill the chamber.

    My advice to other beginners:
    - Get a decent 4-piece grinder, simply for convenience’s sake. It will pay for itself in terms of what you get out of your material.
    - Start at the medium heat setting; when you feel like your material is just about spend, crank it up to high heat and finish it off that way.

  161. HELLOW VAPECRITIC I AM FROM LIMA PERU I HAVE ONE QUESTION :

    WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE ARTICLE TO CLEAN THE PAX? WHAT IS THAT THING TO GET THAT IN THE DRUGSTORE? IN YOUR SECOND VIDEO THE BRUSH THIS THING…PLEASE EXPLANE ME, I APRECCIATE THAT

    • HELLO THEY ARE CALLED INTER-DENTAL BRUSHES YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THEM IN YOUR LOCAL DRUGSTORE NEAR THE TOOTH BRUSHES :)

      Thanks for posting stay up!

  162. Just found out…you need to remove the mouthpiece BEFORE docking and charging! Nowhere does it say so in the User Guide, or several of the tutorial vids I’ve seen. Happy Vaping!

    • Hey you definitely shouldn’t have to remove the mouthpiece to put it on the charger, sometimes it’s just a little finicky and needs to be moved around on the charger before it clicks and engages.

    • This is a well known requirement of the fake Pax’s that are being sold on the internet. Other tell tale signs are a rough finish, a Phillips screw holding on the cover (should be a hex screw). Also, if the serial number under the mouthpiece does not start with an A or a B, your unit is most likely a fake.

  163. I’m buying the PAX for my brother… he’s diabetic and has respiratory issues, but he loves his herb in any form… Before I buy it, my question is: can the PAX use ‘solids’…? Thanks for your help…

  164. First of all, LOVE your site! I just got my Pax and I am getting nowhere near the amount of pulls you are on mine. Thanks for the advice about the packed chamber and the grind. I will try those out. Has anyone mentioned the cylinder becoming really warm like almost uncomfortably so?

    • Hey yes definitely make sure you grind up really fine and pack the chamber full.

      Once you get it working good for you I have a post about a half-packing method that you can explore here.

      It’s normal for the outside to get warm (most vapes do) but it shouldn’t be uncomfortable. One thing that could cause it to get too hot is when the chamber isn’t tightly packed.

      Just make sure your material isn’t floating around inside the oven, pack it in fairly tight.

      Let me know how you make out!

  165. Thanks my friend for helping me finding the right equipment for my needs!
    I wached every video and read every review…even when i already decided which to buy (good I bought 3 to test them on my own…but the results are the same like yours;_)))

    Best wishes
    flo

  166. Hey, thanks for all the helpful info. I just ordered my Pax and can’t wait to get it! Pretty much all my questions were answered by the previous commenters except one: can you reuse the spent herbs for cooking like some do with bigger vapes?

    • Hey nice choice hope you’re enjoying it!

      I would say that the material comes out of this vape looking slightly darker than some of the desktop units, probably not the best if you’re looking to reuse it.

  167. hi, can you [put concentrates] in a pax? i asked the guy at my smoke shop and he said no, that it will damage the heating unit and also void out the 10 year warranty. is that true?

    • I have never ran straight concentrates in my Pax but I always sandwich a little in the center of each oven load I pack. I have not seen any real negative consequences other than a little oil will sometimes seep onto the magnetic oven door. I just reclaim it and load it into my next oven load. I do however try and keep the Pax oven pointed down when drawing. I really don’t want the oils seeping into the vapor tube or the mouthpiece.

  168. I need your advice. I like to partake once or twice a month. Discretion and ease are the 2 most important factors. I currently use a converted pen with a bic. Not the best option. I am not concerned about cost. Which vape do you recommend? Also, I know there is some smell, is it less than traditional method?

    Thank you

    • This is the vape you want for ease of use and discretion – vapor generally smells less than half as strong as smoke and dissipates more than twice as fast, making it easier to control.

  169. I read through the comments and someone asked this already but I’m still having issues with my oven screens. None of them fit no matter what I do. I use theflat end of an exacto knife to pack in my herb or my screen. I thought I ju st needed new screens so I ordered them from pax and the new ones don’t fit either. The screens always pop back up immediately or even if I finally get it to stay in place as soon as I turn it over it all spills. Please help :-(

    • Hey the screens are supposed to stick up a tiny bit after you push them to the bottom of the oven, but it definitely shouldn’t be loose inside the chamber or fall out when you turn it over. If that’s really what’s happening I would email Ploom and describe the issue in detail and see what they say, it may be a defect – let me know how you make out!

  170. I wanted to express my gratitude for your thorough review of the PAX by Ploom vaporizer. The price of a new PAX has always held me back at $250, but I recently picked one up locally off Craig’s List, everything included.

    Your walkthrough on how to properly clean a PAX was much appreciative, especially for someone like myself who purchased a used unit. I found using a small canister of compressed air (keyboard dust cleaner) produced real results when targeted at the airway of the mouthpiece. The previous owner may have never cleaned it because visible clumps were expelled from this process. I’m slightly concerned with some minor damage around the top seal of the unit almost as if it were dropped while still warm…

    I’ve owned a Vapir N02 which had its pros and cons.
    And I have a Magic-Flight Launch Box which I also got off Craig’s List. I was pleasently surprised at its simplicity & effectiveness.

    As for the Pax…
    Wait, the light just turned green! Time for its first session.

    Thanks again.

  171. This is a fishing story about the PAX, that you may find hard to believe, however its true. I recently purchased the PAX 6-8 wks ago, after several months of research & justifying cost. It took a bit to get familiar with how to use it, & get the best results from it. By now I’m totally satisfied & price is totally justified. Then I decide to go fishing & of course take my PAX. Long story short, I got swept down river, completely submerged up to my neck, everything soaked, phone, PAX, everything. (lucky to get out with my life) For sure ruined. So put the PAX over the heat vent for 2 days, then in rice for 2 more days, then tried charging it, IT WORKED, & is working just find today. truly AMAZING, definitely one of the best devises for the price I have ever owned. worth ever penny.

    Oh yeah, the phone didn’t make it. lol

    • Man, so so glad to hear you’re ok! And wow! I’ve always wanted to know about pax and water damage. Glad to know that it’s still functioning! You’re totally right as well, pax is worth the cost, cause not only is it a quality product, ploom back pax with a 10 year warrenty! Epic!

  172. I’ve run out of the complimentary oil included with my PAX. Is there a safe oil to use that I can buy at the local hardware store. WD-40 possibly? That’s a light lubricant. Just don’t know how safe, health-wise.

    Also, my PAX is about 6mos. old now, I tend to use it nightly. And now I have two small issues with it.

    1st, whenever I fire it up, I’ve noticed that my PAX runs through a series of different lights. I know that they have different meanings, but this appears to just run through the gamut of the light series. It doesn’t get to the green as quickly as in the beginning. And it never did this before a couple of months ago.

    2nd, it may be the herb placed inside, but its been VERY harsh lately. I don’t think it’s the herb since it’s been like this with several types. I tried lowering the setting to medium, but I don’t like that setting much as it doesn’t give me the feeling that I’m getting much vapor, and it didn’t really help with the harshness of the vapor either.

    I love your site, Bud. It’s been VERY helpful in allowing me to make a confident decision on a vape. My first purchase was a Plenty. No regrets there, except it isn’t as stealthy as the PAX can be. Since I’m a family man I can’t leave it laying out & it looks a little weird. A real attention getter. PAX is very non-descript. If you’re not familiar with a PAX then it’s not probably going to create much attention. The charger sitting on my bathroom counter along with ALL the other gadgets ie. electric toothbrush, electric razor and cellphone charger cord, cologne, etc… doesn’t attract attention. Thank you for your advise in advance. Take care and Merry Christmas ! Stay Vaped !!!
    Mike
    San Diego

    • Hey Mike definitely do NOT use WD-40 but if you didn’t want to buy the Ploom packets of lubricant I’m fairly certain it’s just a food-grade propylene glycol that you should be able to find sold in bottles.

      Your first issue sounds like there’s some hidden residue somewhere causing a problem with the mouthpiece connection, I would give it a real thorough cleaning again and definitely put some lube on afterwards, it helps a lot to prevent this.

      Not sure what the second issue is all about but could also be related to cleaning, I don’t seem to get any harshness at all with mine even on high heat, although I prefer medium.

      Have you been grinding the same? If your material is ground up super fine it’ll help with any harshness because there’s more surface area of herb being heated and less empty air space.

      Thanks for posting and happy holidays!

  173. Hey Bud – you mention in the video needing to pack the chamber full in order to realize the best vaping experience. Is there an issue if you don’t vape the entire contents in one sitting, but over the course of a few days?

  174. Hey man. First off, your reviews blow all the other review videos on the web out of the water, very helpful. So thanks for that. However, I’ve got a question for you. Im a college kid, so money is relatively tight, and I’m looking at both the Pax and Plenty Vapes. In your opinion does the Plenty vape have a gap in performance over the Pax that is worth an extra $100?

    • Hey thanks James, I like both but if you’re looking strictly at the performance aspect of each then I would say yes, the Plenty produces some of the strongest, most comfortable vapor you can get so it’s definitely worth the extra cost.

  175. I just got my Pax yesterday and it is the greatest vape ever. I just wanted to thank you for your video review that helped make my decision and your cleaning video to help keep this awesome vape in good condition.

  176. Thanks for all your reviews, they help a lot of people.
    That said, I was all set to order up a Pax for my selfie Xmas present. Then, along comes the Firefly. Now I’m torn between a great looking new product with as yet unknown problems, vs. the Pax which has a year plus user blogs and known issues. I guess I’ll wait a few ewes to see what early adopters have to say about the Firefly.

    • Hey so far the feedback on it has been very good and I still like the Pax a lot but if you’re deciding between the two I think it comes down to how you’re going to be using it most often…

      If you want a truly portable vape that’s very easy to use on-the-go I would still get the Pax, but if you vape mainly at home and just want a cordless option the Firefly is excellent and produces top notch vapor.

  177. so i am also a new vap owner, and just bought the PAX myself. i did notice the vaps to be rather light, i think i was expecting something a little stronger.. couple of things that concern me, i notice that i can smell my herbs heating up, a rather unpleasant smell, maybe cuz its home grown, not sure..also i find that the bottom gets rather warm, is this normal that you can feel it on the outside, i understand that this bad boy heats up to a high temp, just not sure if its normal for me to feel the heat..
    thank you,
    stephanie

  178. Hey Bud,

    I am looking for a discreet vape with as close to zero odor as possible and I am leaning towards the Pax. I’ve done a decent amount of research and it seems that your review of this vape has confirmed for me that the Pax is really the best portable vape for my situation… But what do you think? Really the only priorities for me are the quality of the effects and minimal smell.

    Thanks,
    Chris

  179. Just wanted to say thanks for making these videos. I wanted to support what you do so I bought my Pax through the link you provided. Keep up the good work bro!

  180. Hey Bud,

    Love your site!
    I completely ew to this and wanted to try out a portable vaporizer. Your site helped me a lot in making an informed decision. I’ll be taking the Pax.
    Just some quick (maybe dumb) questions:
    a. is it necessary to buy an additional pack of screens, mouthpiece lubricant and replacement mouthpiece?
    b. since you haven’t mentioned a screen in your review (except for the half-packing method) and I don’t know anything yet, are those necessary?
    c. will the mouthpiece be used up some time (when cleaning properly and all the time) so that you’d need a new one?
    d. is the lubricant you talked about in an earlier comment the mouthpiece lubricant? What is that for?

    Since I don’t live in the States i I want to order once so I wanted to know all of this beforehand.

    Thanks so much and excuse the trouble please.

  181. Thanks for the awesome review, got one on the way now :) are the recent models still unable to do concentrates? And is sandwiching a little between flowers harmful to the unit if it doesn’t do straight concentrates?

    Thank bro!

    • Nice! yea they haven’t changed how it works so it’s still designed for dry herbs only, but you should be able to sandwich a little concentrate in the middle like you said and get good results without damaging the unit, just be vigilant about where it goes when it melts.

  182. Hey I have a question for you,
    I currently own the Ariser Solo for 2+ years and I gotta say it’s never let me down, good quality vapour, great battery life, etc. I have a solid case for it but it’s still not as portable as I would like and I have broken numerous stems (although they are not very expensive to replace). Would it be worth it to upgrade to a Pax? Are the battery lives similar in longevity? I’m also concerned that the maintenance will be considerably more as I may have to clean the solo oven once every few months and I can just soak the stems in alcohol over night to clean them. I don’t want to pay for a vape that requires an hour of rigorous cleaning after a few uses. My herbs are always very dry when I vaporise them. Just looking for your opinion! :)
    -S.F.

    • Hey there’s a lot of debate out there on Solo vs. Pax but I personally feel they perform similarly and differ mostly in their portability.

      This one is a lot more portable, much easier to carry around and use on-the-go, but yes it does require more frequent cleaning. However, cleaning takes just a few minutes and should only need to be done once every 6-12 sessions.

  183. The Pax Sucks for the price. If it retailed for $175 then it would be a great vape for the money. Here is why it is very overpriced. Only 3 heat settings, the lowest barely vapes, the highest combusts so you basically get one working setting. It has plastic parts that pass the vapor like the mouthpiece and the metal oven corrodes and peels after a weeks use. It has to be cleaned every 10 uses, which is for me every day and it is kind of a pain to clean. The battery life sucks compared to any other vaporizer over $199 such as the Davinci, Solo, and Ascent. When heating up the pax if you don’t vape your stuff in the 1 to 4 min window it’s toast and wasted. It has a great warranty? So do the other vaporizers in the price range and they are easy to clean. The pax is built to res up on the inside so good luck cleaning that out perfectly to send through the mail. Pax is outdated and needs to lower their price or come out with a Pax 2 if they still want to charge $250. At my store I try my best to talk people out of buying the Pax, but they believe the false reviews saying it’s the best portable vape out there without asking why. Pax must pay the VapeCritic nicely.

    • Thanks for posting, nobody pays me to pump their products, how I operate is explained in plain english on my disclosure page, and here’s a list of some of the factors I consider in my ratings: http://www.vapecritic.com/vaporizers/ratings

      I still to this day use my Pax more often than all the other portables I reviewed, I don’t claim that it’s perfect but it’s better overall than most. (I’ve been diggin the Firefly lately too)

  184. Hey Bud, I was interested in how you suggested people find out if their Pax was real?

    My original query to you, and my anecdote about the Ploominatti’s sorry customer support, was in response to someone else posting that their Pax stopped working. Now that post is gone? What gives? I decided to purchase my Pax primarily due to your glowing reviews. Now I question your impartiality. Are you being paid by Ploom to promote Pax?

    Just how many fakes do you believe are out there? If mine was fake, someone went to extraordinary lengths to pull off the scam, going so far as to stamp a serial number on it and build a unit that worked just fine for about nine months. It’s only when I contacted Pax about getting it repaired that I was informed that they don’t warranty ANYTHING sold online. After that, they wouldn’t even respond to my asking if the serial number was legit.

    I think the real scammers are at Ploom, and that they use a trumped up story about fakes to get out of supporting their product.

    You are doing your readers a disservice if you don’t inform them of this significant caveat.

    trey

    • There are no guidelines for determining if your unit is real, that would just make it easier for the scammers, the only way to know for sure is by who you bought it from, you should only buy it through an authorized dealer like I recommend, and they absolutely do honor the warranty for genuine units purchased through authorized dealers online.

      And P.S. companies do not pay me to promote their products.

  185. Howdy. Just wanted to share that I recently purchased a Pax vaporizer from a local vendor that ended up being a counterfeit unit. It didn’t work properly from its first use. Nice packaging, unit, instructions and extras for a counterfeit item, however no serial number on the box and a s/n on the unit that was not recognized by Ploom plus my concerns that the indicator light never reached green status but just pulsates purple and blue were other common signs of a fake. I learned this info from a live chat session hosted by Ploom customer support while searching the Web for my concerns. This is how I came to find this site and now after gaining more info about the different units and watching the well made review videos, I purchased a Firefly from the site you have recommended. Luckily I was able to get a refund on that fake Pax. Thank you again for providing these awesome hands on reviews.

    • Hey thanks for posting! Sorry to hear of your troubles, there are definitely a lot of fakes going around so you really have to make sure you’re buying from an authorized dealer. Glad you got a refund and great choice with the Firefly!

  186. Dude, great review and videos. Help me a lot. But I have noticed that I am using a lot more product than I use to. I do grind mine to a very fine material. I can pack the Pax tight and I will not get 20 draws before the material is all spent. Once the material starts to smell like burnt popcorn or it is all brown I know it is spent. But I am not getting as many draws as you. I can get maybe 12 draws of 10 second each. I hate to think I am wasting my material. Any more tips or does it seem like you will use more using the PAX?

    I love the PAX. It really is a nice [vape].
    thanks,
    D

  187. Just wondered – is it hard draw with the chamber empty? I got to run some nice outdoor organic through one of these last fall and I was surprised at the effort it took – but, the gal who packed it packed the shit outta it and I thought that was the reason for the hard suck. Was thinking maybe with a looser fill it might have been easier. I like the portability of this design but I am leaning towards the magic……..

  188. hey bud i had a quick question im debating about buying the magic launch box or the pax cant decide yet im really leaning towards which one is more stealthier and has less smell neighbors keep comlaining about the smell so i really in need of a vape with less smell , i really want the pax but i herd it smells a bit more then the mflb can a little bit of spray or lysol take care of the smell ?

    • Hey man they’re both gonna smell a little bit, the Pax possibly a little more, but you should be able to control the odor with a little ventilation and air spray.

      Generally vapor smells less than half as strong as smoke and it dissipates more than twice as fast.

  189. I really enjoyed the review. I was on the fence about paying that much but u talked me into it. I just ordered one from the online shop u recommended. Anyhow, thanks.

  190. HELP! Bud, my screen is stuck inside the oven of my PAX and I can’t get it out. I read on your site how one dude voided his warranty by sticking an object down the other end to poke it out. I just can’t get it. It feels clogged. Once I scraped the screen with my pocket knife and it worked good, but not this time. Can’t pry it out either. Any suggestions?? Please help ASAP this is my only non-attention getting vape. Thanks for the advice and, Stay Vaped!

  191. Hi there I just got my pax and the draws was very hard to take so I took out the original screen and cut out 2 the same size from a volcano screen /use the screen from the volcano pack coz the burnt herbs just doesn’t stick too it/so put 2 pieces down the bottom if you don’t want fully pack your chamber cut a third one too push your little herbs down like a sandwich for me works best when you pack it tight draws much easier (on medium xtrem good thick clouds)

  192. Thanks for all your info, it really helps! I have purchased 2 vaps based on your videos and happy with both (Silver Surfer Vaporizer and the PAX) Looking forward to getting the Firefly as well. My question is regarding the PAX. Can you leave your blend in the oven while its on the charger? Unsure if this would cause any issues. Thanks for your help and keep the great videos coming.

  193. So again, just like all the portable “vaporizers”, This doesn’t actually emit vapor? Just smoke? That defeats the whole purpose… There is no way that what that guy blew out was EVER vape… Look at someone using a volcano if you want to see what actual vapor looks like.

    • Yea man that is truly vapor you see, this is not like a typical “vape pen” that burns your material, this unit actually vaporizes it, I’m not blowing smoke up your ass! (ha!)

      If you want your mind blown go check out the second video I have posted on my Volcano page, that is true vapor as well.

  194. Ok so I have a question. I have bought multiple vape pens because I have not been waiting to spend the money for an expensive vape. I’m thinking really hard about buying the PAX. On the pax is there a chamber you have to change out after so many puffs? On the vape pens you have to change the chamber out after 200-300 puffs.

    Thanks

  195. Hi there Bud. I’m considering to buy a Vape but I’m really indecisive, i’m thinking about Pax, Plenty and Arizer. This will be my first vape and I don’t care if it’s portable or not. Just what will be you recommendation? I like the pax for its coolness, Plenty for great potency and Arizer for its price. What will be your choice if you were me? thanks for any answer. Keep up the good work.

    • Hey Lukas I personally like all 3 of those so here is when I like to use each one:

      Pax – anytime I’m on-the-go or want to use a vape while I’m doing something else

      Plenty – when I want to REALLY get vaped at home

      Solo – when I want a light session at home (it’s cordless but hard to travel with)

    • Hey thanks, as of right now this vape (the Pax) and the Launch Box (MFLB) are the smallest true herbal vapes I’ve reviewed that I like and recommend.

      Haven’t come across any pens yet that do a good job of truly vaporizing, they’ve all either combusted the material or produced very little vapor after a lot of effort.

  196. Picked up a Pax today and really enjoyed watching your videos while it helps me learn a few things about it, and cleaning it. Do you still stand by being able to get around 10-12 sessions from the Pax before it needs to be throughly cleaned? I thought you had to clean it like that after every session, so thats good to know if so, thanks again man,

    • Yea totally man I can still use mine for around a dozen sessions before I have to really clean it. To extend time between cleanings try to brush out the oven shortly after each use and also don’t turn it upside-down and put it on the charger until its had a couple minutes to cool down, this will help prevent any built-up residue inside from making its way to the mouthpiece area where it could cause issues.

  197. Hello VC,
    Received the pax 1 week ago. I already own the plenty and the vaporite solo. Love the plenty as a home vape. I wanted the pax for on the go and travel. Already tested on all 3 heat settings with a fully packed chamber with herb pushed down slightly and I have to say i don’t love the pax because in my opinion you have to pull extremely hard to get a semi descent draw.

    I pull slow, steady, and long, but i feel there is allot of effort on my part for such a small amount of vape. It seems to me to be a bit of a struggle to have to pull so hard. Don’t know if I’m feeling the effects of the vape or hyperventilating (just joking). I wish they built it with a little more airflow so you don’t have to pull so damn hard.

    Kinda wishing I got the firefly instead for easier better draws.

    Thank You

    • Hey Fritz very sorry to hear you’re disappointed, the Pax and Plenty are indeed on complete opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of draw resistance.

      You do get somewhat used to the draw of the Pax after regular use but compared to some other vapes it can be very noticeable.

      What I do myself to keep the resistance to a minimum is a combination of a few things…

      First I played around with the oven screen, because that area seems to be a primary source of the restriction. I experimented with the screen firmly pressed down against the oven wall, and I’ve also tried using it with the screen lifted a millimeter or two away from the actual chamber wall (on the side where the vapor path opening is). I noticed slightly different results so maybe play around with that.

      I also noticed that sometimes half-packing the oven eases the restriction a little, versus packing it full. If you haven’t seen my post about that you can check it out here. The vape will perform very well you just won’t get as many draws per packing.

      Keeping it clean is important too, once build-up accumulates inside it could restrict the airflow a tiny bit, so roughly every dozen sessions or so I clean mine the way I show here.

      And lastly, if you really want to go crazy, you can try opening up the hole in the top of the mouthpiece a little more, the area you draw from.

      I bought an extra mouthpiece to try this, and I don’t recommend anybody does this to their only one just in case, but I used a very small drill bit and gently widened the opening a little. I’m talking about the opening at the very top where the vapor comes out.

      Doing these things will not make a huge difference, but they could possibly help a little, which could maybe make you enjoy it a little more.

      Also the last thing to keep in mind is that vapes designed like this one (conduction vapes) kind of need some resistance to function properly and produce vapor, sometimes air passing through your material too quickly could cause it to not be fully vaporized.

      Hope this helps!!

  198. I really want to buy a vaporizer. This will be my first time vaping as well. I want something that will save my herbs too. I am considering the Pax, Firefly or the Volcano. Which would would you recommend.

    • Hey Kevin I like and recommend all three of those vapes, but they’re fairly different designs.

      You will find a ton of addt’l info about this if you browse the articles on this site but here is a high level breakdown:

      Pax – get this if you want a truly portable device to carry around with you and use on-the-go.

      Firefly – get this if you want a very good cordless vape for use mainly at home.

      Volcano – get this if you want an excellent home vape that plugs into an outlet and sits on a table or desk.

      Hopefully this helps point you in the right direction!

  199. I recently purchased the Pax and I LOVE IT! Its great for people who are always on the go like myself. My only complaint is the magnetic bottom, which falls off if you drop your Pax. Then your contents spill everywhere. That is just one down side. Really the only down side. I can pack this device and it will last me most of the day. Truly worth the money spent…

    • It will remember the last setting you had it on, so if you change the setting it’ll stay there every time you use it unless you change it again.

  200. Hey, [some text redacted], I wanna try out a vaporizer. I need it to be truly portable. But I also really wanted a convection vaporizer. Could you maybe do a video about convection vs non-convection vaporizers? [vapor] quality and all? Really confused between firefly and Pax. Price is not a issue. What do you recommend?

    • Hey thanks for your request I’ll definitely consider it. I like and recommend both of these vapes, they’re going to be different than what you said you’re used to but I think you’ll like vaping if you’re patient with it.

      I don’t really consider the Firefly truly portable but it’s def well made and performs well (and it’s convection), it just doesn’t have a very large chamber and battery life isn’t so hot, so I mainly recommend it as a good cordless home unit.

  201. Cool site!

    I purchased 3 vaporizers PAX, THE FIREFLY & ATMOS RX – this is my take:

    Rated 1-10 (1 is worst & 10 is best)

    PAX:

    - weight: 8
    - elegance: 9
    - compact: 9
    - ease of use: 7
    - quantity of vapor per hit: 8
    - ease of cleaning: 5
    - price: 6
    - charging time: 8
    - stealthy: 9
    - customer service: 8
    - warranty: 10
    - time to heat up: 7
    - Taste: 7

    Notes: I have used the PAX for about 2 months now and it has worked like a charm until about a week ago. It wouldnt charge anymore so I filled out the support request on their website and they replied by emailed in less than 24 hours with a return label attached to the email for me to ship it back. The return label was USPS 1 Day but it actually took 3 days for it to be received in San Francisco From Las Vegas. The day it was received they sent an email letting me know they received it and within 2 days they sent me an email informing me they would be shipping me a new PAX — received 3 days later. The PAX is elegant and stealthy at the same time and I would even go as far as saying it ranks near the iphone in appearance. The PAX will produce large hits once you have mastered the learning curve to taking a draw from it.

    The Firefly:

    - weight: 5
    - elegance: 10
    - compact: 6
    - ease of use: 8
    - quantity of vapor per hit: 9
    - ease of cleaning: 9
    - price: 5
    - charging time: 9
    - stealthy: 5
    - customer service: 8
    - warranty: 7
    - time to heat up: 9
    - Taste: 9

    Notes: I have used the Firefly for about a month now and it works great. The taste seems to be a little cleaner and savory than the pax. Although it weighs a ton it works almost flawlessly. Charging time is only about 1 hour vs 2 hours with PAX. However the Firefly reminds me of a 50′s burger joint in a way. It is very RED and Shiney and I don’t think you could pull off taking a hit in public without catching some attention. As with the PAX, the Firefly will produce an abundance of vapor per hit once you have mastered taking a draw from it.

    Atmos RX:

    - weight: 10
    - elegance: 3
    - compact: 10
    - ease of use: 1
    - quantity of vapor per hit: 0
    - ease of cleaning: UNKNOWN
    - price: 9
    - charging time: 8
    - stealthy: 10
    - customer service: 2
    - warranty: 3
    - time to heat up: 7
    - Taste: 5

    Notes: I just got it today – You get what you pay for – It reminds me of a glorified e-cigarette… Dont waste your money.

  202. I don’t even know where to start.I am shocked first of all by all the positive comments and so many people love the Pax so much.I couldn’t disagree more.I have recently tried again to get used to using it maybe I have been smoking to many years.I HATE IT! I absolutely don’t see why it’s so popular.My father also borrowed it while was sick and gave it back didn’t like it either.It needs cleaned way to often,burns my herb way to fast on high and cant get a hit on low.I have passed it around my social gatherings have yet to find anyone who likes it.I find it very hard to draw a hit through.Can’t tell if I’m getting a hit half the time I’m not.The other half trying so hard makes me draw in to deep causing me to cough alot like I’m smoking a joint.I clean it everyday .The mouthpiece seems to have a clogging issue due to such a tiny opening….my husband spent a lot on it for my birthday…..shoulda got Volcano maybe idk….

    • Hey I’m very sorry you didn’t like it! The draw resistance takes a little getting used to and some people just don’t like it, but there are also other factors that will affect the experience and how much vapor it produces, mainly how finely you grind your material and how you pack the chamber.

      • O.k. I have to give an update.I was recently diagnosed with COPD .I now am having to get used to this for my health.I have to say the videos and tips were very helpful! I grind very fine,pack half as much and clean it often.I also am counting to ten while taking a draw. I am happy to report between my inhalers and my Pax I am feeling better ;) I wish these details had been mentioned in the book that comes with it.I think I would have had a more positive experience from the beginning.Thanks.

  203. 8/10 for smoking.
    10/10 for portability.
    1/10 for its charging system. It is proprietary. If you forget it or loose it you are out of luck. It is in two pieces and cumbersome. For this reason I regret purchasing it.

  204. I have been wanting to switch to a Vaporizer for awhile now but I am a cheapo and I have never pursued it knowing they can be expensive. After months of research and changing my mind a million times, I finally shelled out the dough and purchased the Pax! I have never owned a dry herb vap although I have tried a few. I felt like a pro thanks to you! I was deciding between the Pax, Atmos Raw and Snoop Dog G Pen Herbal. I went with the Pax for a few reasons. The G Pen had a statement that said “Durability Index of G Pen Herbal Tank is approximately 5-6 weeks depending on frequency of use.” I chatted with them and asked a few questions about that. I guess they sell replacements but they are $50. Im not spending $50 a month on replacements. I guess you can call their customer service and they can sell you the coil or whatever ? With the Atmos you have to keep track of the screens and the people at the shop said they burn the herb and it can smell. The Pens just don’t seem to be there yet for what I wanted. I have only used the Pax once after charging it but I am satisfied. It seems like a genuine portable vaporizer. The taste is so much better then smoking out of a nasty B. The feeling is more potent then what I thought it would be. I haven’t felt like this in years ;-). I also picked up my first grinder. Finally! I have been smoking sense the mid 90′s lol. I went with the space case titanium. I tried the Pax out of the box and got a little discouraged because I did everything right but it didn’t really produce anything. I charged it fully and now I’m in heaven. The one thing I wish was a little better so far was the smell that comes from the device. It’s not as desecrate as I thought. Thanks for the reviews and information you provide. It helped me a lot.

  205. After watching your reviews I have decided to get a PAX. I got it in the mail today, and I can only say I am impressed with the potency of this small (tiny) device!

    Here is why I think the PAX is the real winner amongst the portable Vapes:
    - Ease of Use
    - Ease of Maintenance
    - Good Battery Life / Fast Charging
    - Design
    - 10 Year Warranty!!!

    Thanks again for your work and making this decision much easier for me. I am really happy I chose the PAX.

    Oh, and for people outside of NA, you can use a website like shipito.com to forward the mail to you, they can purchase the item for you, and also assist you in Warranty Cases.

    KUDOS
    Lance

  206. I’m glad I purchased a Pax – I was getting tired of the iolite/butane/noise situation. This thing is amazing, best travel vape I’ve tried.

    I started reading your reviews because you and your gf share my intense love of the volcano, so I figured we would be on the same page about anything else you reviewed. Pax is just fantastic, thank you.

  207. Hi – I’m getting ready to by a Pax. It will be my first vape. I’m getting it mainly for health reasons… I hope way better than smoke in my lungs. I have a grinder and will get a finishing grinder too. So I will follow all of your best practices. Here’s my questions. When I tried a friend’s Pax, all I needed was two draws. If I am alone, and if I fill the chamber, will the dry herb keep between sessions that may not amount to more than 2 to 4 draws per session? I don’t want to be wasting my dried herbal material. Next, If I grind my herbal materials very fine as you recommend, can the material be ground well in advance and kept in a small container so I don’t need to grind if I’m not at home? Thanks for all the great information you provide.

    • Hey it seems just like most other pen vapes on the market, probably works good with concentrates but most likely does not do a good job of truly vaporizing dried herbs. I would def go with the Pax if that’s what you’re looking to vape herbs.

  208. Hey man ! your blog is awesome ! i bought the PAX because of your tutorials but the thing is … I CANT GET IT to vape ! i cleaned it, grinder it fine, and packed it . and still … I’m not getting any vape. .. help ! :(

  209. Thank you for this detailed review, I’m looking forward to buy this one, its just I’m confused between “pax” or “Arizer”!

  210. This is to B Einspahr… I switched from glass & combustion to vaping about 2 months ago and I wouldn’t go back to combustion if you paid me. The taste is shitty compared to vaping after you get the hang of taking a [draw] from pax or firefly. You should [pull] it like a cigar, long slow drags. It does burn more [herb] but the taste and health benefits out way the costs to me.

  211. Hey I have partaken in the use of the Pax Vaporizer for almost a year now. I originally used flower in it and it was very efficient. However, like almost every person who has ever owned a Pax, I too suffer from the sticky mouth piece problem. The Ploom Mouth Piece Lubricant solves this sticky mouth piece problem well however, It is a bitch to keep ordering them from Ploom every time you run out of the Lube. I was wondering if you know of any other water based lubricants that you can safely use on the Pax mouth piece that I could just get at the store or something. I understand that using lubricant other that the one provided with the purchase of a Pax Vaporizer could void the warranty.

  212. Bud,
    I am looking to purchase my first vaporizer. I really like the plenty, but I need something more discreet. I am instead looking at the Pax. I am not as concerned with portability, but I like the ease of use and the size. What are your thoughts on using the Pax as a primary daily vape? Is it designed for this potential workload?

    Thanks. And great reviews.

    • Hey Jason, I myself would not be happy with a Pax as my only vape, when I’m home I rarely use it because the good desktop units generally perform better, but for portability and on-the-go use the Pax is still my first choice and I usually take it with me anytime I leave home.

  213. Hi Bud,

    I ‘m currently looking for a good portable vape, and everything about the Pax fits my has-to-have list. But there is one criterium left: the taste.

    The MFLB was my first ever piece, but due to the taste of the vapour, I switched over to -shame oh shame- combustion. The thing is, it tasted like I stuffed a christmas tree in my mouth. It was so pronounced, that I needed to drink loads of juice to get it out of my mouth. Now j are smooth and the taste of the herb is much less pronounced. So what about the Pax? Or is the shrubbery / Christmas tree taste typical for all vapes? Cause that would really be a bummer. But even so, I like to read your reviews, thanks for the advice

    • That funky taste you’re describing is a little more pronounced sometimes from a vape like the Launch Box since it’s made of wood, but vapor in general feels & tastes and a little different from any unit.

      If you want the absolute best vapor quality and taste I recommend the Herbalizer, Volcano, Plenty, Cloud EVO and Firefly. If you still find the taste or feeling to be weird out of one of those then it may just be vaping in general that’s throwing you off.

  214. I just purchased the PAX solely on your recommendation of it. I regretfully purchased the PUFFITT almost 2 years ago and I wish that I had read your review before doing so. You were absolutely right. It just doesn’t work! Because of it, I have been very skeptical about buying another vaporizer. I’m hoping that the PAX will renew my faith in vaping. I’m really looking forward to it working as good as you said it does. I will let you know.

  215. Hi Bud
    I’ve been viewing many of yours’ and other’s vaporisers reviews…. Very useful indeed!

    I’ve purchased a PAX and a PLENTY. However after much reading and testing and researching I think that one of the most important factors that determines the goodness of a vaporiser is the FILTERING SYSTEM. This is never discussed and I do not know why. If you buy a vaporiser it is because you want to reduce the impact on your health. Many of the portable vaporisers have a TERRIBLE filtering system. They allow tiny particles of the herb to reach your mouth. The PAX is one of these. If you see, sometimes you get some tiny little peaces of herb in your mouth and after 4 or 5 times you’ll see many particles aggregating on top of the mouthpiece. This means that some of these particles will get eventually to your lung. Another reason how to notice it is the taste the PAX leaves on your tongue and mouth after a while. It gets very bitter because these small particle are also accumulating on your tongue.

    All of this is not happening for example with the PLENTY. Why? Because the PLENTY’s filtering system is hundred times better than the PAX. It is also not a coincidence that BONG-VAPORIZERS (water pipes/vaporizers) like the AROMED, VAPEXHALE, etc taste much better and usually are preferred by many: because their filtering system is the best (water) and it is very difficult to get some particles in your mouth. Even the VOLCANO is releasing more particles than the PLENTY because of the very high pressure it uses to fill the balloon..

    If I had an awesome vaporiser blog like yours, I would definitely use the filtering system as one of the key criteria to judge a vaporiser because it has soooooo many consequences on the performance of the vaporisers such as health, taste, density, etc…

    I would like to receive you comments and idea about this.

    • I like your comment because it’s not all glowing and positive

      I own this vape. Bought the Pax for $249 in a SF head shop in the Mission. 15 minutes after buying it, I went back to the store and asked for my money back. The dude said no.

      Okay, why did I ask for my money back? Because you can’t hit this thing. Put your lips on your arm and suck in. That’s what it feels like. And when you blow out, NOTHING! I get a little [effects], but I use way more [material] (maybe this colorado stuff is weak, definitely not the Humboldt County we [had] at Cal) and I think part of the [effects] is because you’re basically holding your breath while drawing on this sucker.

      I’m new to vapes, but I have used a table top model before (at a party 12 years ago) and I got a huge [pull] of smoke and didn’t even realize it until I blew out. And it got me [good] to the bujesusbelt. This thing isn’t nearly the same experience.

      I’d say if you like smoke and don’t want to feel like you’re sucking on your arm, this isn’t the vape for you.

      (I would say, the Pax is better than the iPuff for flowers. I bought the iPuff first and it’s no good either because it burns the flower so you’re better off using [something else]. )

      • Happier!

        Okay, I packed this sucker full and tried it on high heat. Lots o smoke. I’m happier.

        When I packed the Pax, i used about the same amount of material that I used in my [water tool]. Not much. It wasn’t nearly full and wasn’t packed tight. So after reading this blog, I tried filling it full and packing it tight. Bingo. I got a nice big draw and lots of smoke came out. I did it twice and turned it off.

        How much material? Well, less than 1 gram because my kitchen scale only weighs down to 0.000 kilograms and it read 0.000.

        I’ll report back later on my final conclusions. So far I’m much much happier.

  216. Your reviews are incredible man. Thanks for posting them. I have one important questions though: I have an “E-Cig Pen” and it was sold to me labelled as a portable vape. The smoke that comes out of it when i pack my herbs in there tastes more like smoke and not vapor. The area where I pack my herbs has a little coil that heats up. It doesn’t feel like Vape.

    I just want to make sure that what comes out of the Pax is actual Vape and not smoke like the “E-Cig”. Can you please confirm this for me. Thanks a lot

    • Also, what is the “half pack” method you talk about with the Pax. That really interests me and could be the deciding factor for me as to which Vape will work best for me.

      Also, I just want to tell you your review video’s (and really your entire website) is incredible. You do an absolutely amazing job of not only answering everyone’s questions, but you’re an extremely patient dude. Good work with everything Bud.

      Chris

    • Hey Bud,

      Sorry for another post. I’ve answered my own questions above so no need to reply to those.

      I have a new question though: I fully pack my Pax vape, I have it on the medium heat setting, it’s fully clean, but i can only seem to get 5 or so nice draws before no more vape comes out. Can you tell me why this might be happening? Other then that, the vape is great! The vapor tastes great, and it’s a really nice [experience]. Thanks a lot Bud.

  217. Hi Bud,

    I am going to get a PAX and it is on its way. How would you recommend me to [use concentrates] if i do not have any flowers for the PAX vaporizer?

    • Hey that is a tough one, it’s really designed for use with dry herbs. You can try this… pick up some chamomile or some other herb that can be vaped and mix your concentrate in with that, and then pack that inside the chamber.

      The important thing is to not pack straight concentrates inside the oven to avoid running into issues.

  218. I’m new to vaping… I [combusted] daily for 7 years, about 3-6 [sessions] a day. I recently got a lung infection, so decided to stop [combusting]. I bought the Plenty vaporizer, and I love it! Although, now I need a more portable version that I can take on the go, outdoors, sporting events etc… so I’m looking at the Pax.

    Its been about 2 years since this review… do you still think Pax is the best portable vaporizer? I was thinking of the Firefly, but apparently the battery is horrible. What do you think?

    Thanks! And I love your reviews… your review on the Plenty had me sold.

  219. i’m considering purchasing the pax from VW, and i was wondering out of the add-ons they offer with the purchase, which ones are essential?

    • I don’t really consider any of the add-ons totally necessary, it comes with everything you’ll need for a while, but eventually you may need more mouthpiece lubricant and pipe cleaners, and maybe a few extra screens.

  220. Hello Sir!
    First off, love ur reviews, I’ve watched and read a lot of reviews over the last few weeks and urs are definitely a cut above the rest.

    Im writing to ask if you are familiar with the Crater portable vape? The reason I ask is that its advertised as not being a Pax knockoff, even though it looks exactly the same. Although it comes with a lifetime warranty which is why it has peaked my interest.

    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

    • Hey thanks for posting,

      Yes that is a great example of a Pax knock-off or imitation, it doesn’t work nearly as well as the real deal and it’ll end up having all sorts of issues.

      I highly recommend avoiding the fakes and if this vape interests you definitely go with the real thing.

  221. My battery’s a dog from the start. Store had no replacements. Spaced out worker had no idea when manager would be back.

    So this great company will stand behind this? I’m the only one who got a lemon?

    • If you have a genuine unit yes the manufacturer will replace it if it’s defective, however there are a lot of fakes out there and short battery life is one sign you may not have a real Pax. I would contact the manufacturer and give them your serial number and they should be able to tell you what you have.

      The store I link to is a true authorized dealer that sells genuine units.

  222. Very high quality product (the Pax). I have tried a few different vapes (the Atmos Junior and Raw pens (as well as the Thermos W for oil), and the Volcano and Plenty by Storz & Bickel). The Pax is awesome and very economical for use with dry bud. I use the atmos pen pretty heavily only because I don’t feel I have the lung capacity to use the Pax on a constant basis but I don’t taste vapor when I use the junior (it tastes like it is combusting). The flavor I get out of the Pax reminds me of the Plenty which feels like much higher quality to me. A+++

  223. I bought a PAX based off your recommendation, at first i was really delighted with the look and feel of the device. When i started to use it, the vape seemed to taste very like plastic and can only put this down to the device being used for the first time from being manufactured.

    The biggest downfall i found about the PAX was as soon as i had finished my first go and went to do a second, the device needed charging again. I played around extensively with the temperature, the charge time (making sure it was fully charged), amount of herb used… but nothing improved the usable time. I found this out when i took the device out with me and after the first use the device was useless until i got home and recharged it.

    Is this everyones experience with the PAX and if so, what the hype and 88/100 review all about???

    • Hi Martin, it sounds very much like you inadvertently purchased an imitation :(

      This vape is not supposed to perform like that, a genuine one will work just like I describe it. There are many fakes out there and some look real to the untrained eye, so I highly recommend people buy it from a true authorized dealer like the store I recommend. If you are 100% sure you have a genuine Pax I would contact the manufacturer because yours sounds like it’s definitely defective.

  224. I can’t find the 1/2 pack method u mentioned in a seperate video for the pax, involving a screen. Can u please tell me where to look for this. I’m not having much luck with my pax, and have been using it for about a week. I’ve done all your suggestions, such as grinding very fine, drying it out, packing up tight. Still never seems to blow out any respectable clouds of any sort. Certainly not like the ones in your review and follow up five minute demo. Vapor you can hardly see, even towards the beginning. If I turn it on the red, I will see some vapor, but it’s hot, the whole unit gets hot, the mouthpiece included, and obviously it cooks the crap out of my material much faster. Anyway, very curious about the half pack method, and in addition if you have any other possible fixes/advice, please let me know, thanks.

  225. I’m also wondering if anyone has been brave enough to drill a skinny hole through the bottom of their pax, right through the center of the of the oven lid. That, in essence, would make it almost the same as the Davinci Ascent, and certainly would fix the airflow problem. I’ve played around with the airflow, and if you test it with the oven lid off it’s fantastic, meaning that the oven lid is what causes the high resistance.

    • Yes I actually did try this, the problem is that the Pax actually needs some draw resistance to slow down the airflow, this helps it generate more/better vapor.

      With the increased airflow of an open screen the vape doesn’t actually perform as well, the vapor is lighter.

  226. Hey Bud, I am looking to get a potable vape. The pax and firefly are the ones I’ve been considering the most because of your in depth reviews.
    Stealth and portability are my primary desires. I want is a product which doesn’t produce an herbal odor; best case scenario any odor. I don’t want to walk around smelling like anything. Maintenance is something I would like to keep to a minimum. I’m a busy guy and I don’t see myself taking 30 minutes to clean my vape after every use.
    Which one would you recommend for me?
    Thank you and stay up,
    Alex R

  227. Bud, thank you! I’m new to this (vapes) and really needed these reviews to feel comfortable to purchase. I didn’t even know there were vapes until last week at a neighbors house they had a Pax and shared it with me. Was fantastic!

    So great to have you out here doing this for us, very much appreciated!

  228. Have you tried flying/traveling with the Pax vaporizer (after it’s already been used, but obviously without any herb inside of it)?? This will be my first vape purchase after trying the Pax at a wedding recently, and I want to make sure it wouldn’t raise alarm if packed in my checked bag at the airport (I’m assuming I couldn’t carry-on…. could I?).

    In the past, I’ve just bought a $10 bat to accomodate myself during travels since you can’t fly with one of those after it’s used.

    Thanks in advance!

  229. Picked up a Pax this week. I love it in almost every way. My smoking experience is fantastic but today I dropped it filling the oven and the housing bent slightly. I reached out to Ploom and learned something disturbing.

    They don’t repair devices outside of warranty! If you drop it or anything else happens outside their warranty policy, it’s finished…buy another one because they don’t have a pay for repair service.

    Given how easily the housing bent over a small fall in my kitchen, I won’t be recommending it to anybody and won’t be buying another one. I just hope I can get my money’s worth out of it before I drop it again. Fortunately the housing is just a thin sheet of metal around the plastic so it bent back without breaking.

  230. Totally excited! I just ordered one of these PAX Vaporizers… I’m totally excited to get/try it. I’ve only tried the prefilled concentrate/liquid vapes from the dispensary and regular old puff puff so far. This met my requirements for effectiveness plus not being too “fun” looking since I don’t want my kids to be attracted to it..

  231. Hey Bud… Thanks for your reviews. Considering all the halfbaked stuff published online, it’s great to find someone so thorough and rational. You also know how to communicate… I have a Pax, and would like to use less herb in the chamber so that I can use it up in one session. You mention using a screen spacer on top of the herb. Could you give some details about how you would cut (and shape?) the screen, and how you would place it between the herb and the cover so as to keep the herb well packed. What would be the smallest quantity of herb one could have in the chamber using this method and get good results?… Thanks again for your good work.

  232. Hey Bud…Just now, while back on your website, I found to my pleasant surprise that you have already answered my question about how to cut and shape a screenspacer for the Pax oven so I can use less herb in the oven and still get good results. Thanks a lot. I was totally right when I said you are thorough.

  233. Hey Bud… A lot of people have had problems with a stuck mouthpiece. This happened to me and I remember a day when I was fiddling for hours and breaking my thumbnails trying in vain to pull out the mouthpiece. Then, after having decided to call the seller the next day to send back the Pax for repair or replacement, I was lying in bed and was hit with an inspiration. The next morning I got out a roll of #2, 20 lb picture hanging wire. This wire is fairly thick but it consists of 5 strands of very thin wire twisted together. I cut off about 12 inches of the wire and then carefully unwound the strands and ended up with one 12 inch piece of three stranded wire and one 12 inch piece of two stranded wire. I then bent the middle of the two stranded piece of wire into a U shape with the width of the U being approximately equal to five eighth of an inch. I inserted the U of this wire into the small space between the edge of the mouthpiece and the inner edge of the body of the Pax at the end of the mouthpiece opposite to the end with the opening where the vapor comes out. It went in easily, and I then slid the wire which now protruded from the two opposite edges of the mouthpiece toward the middle of the mouthpiece. Then I grabbed the two protruding ends of the wire and gave a gentle tug, and to my amazement, the mouthpiece came out immediately. A gentle tug accomplished what all my mighty labors on the previous day could not do…. I hope this method will work for other folks with a stuck mouthpiece. I think the main thing is to get hold of some wire which is thin enough to slide into the space between the edges of the mouthpiece and the inner edges of the body of the Pax. This is actually quite a significant amount of space, evidenced by the fact that you can actually wiggle the pushed-in mouthpiece around a bit within the body of the Pax.

  234. Hey Bud… In the last sentence of my post about how to deal with a stuck mouthpiece I made a mistake that might confuse somebody. I should not have said that you can wiggle the “pushed-in” mouthpiece around a bit, because I’m talking about a mouthpiece which is in the “on” position, i.e. not “pushed in”, but protruding from the body of the Pax. The problem the “wire method’ is intended to solve is a mouthpiece in the “on” position which resists efforts to pull it totally out of the body of the Pax so you can clean the inside parts of the Pax and lubricate the metal tube attached to the mouthpiece… So, good luck: if this method works for you, or if it doesn’t work, please post your findings for the benefit of everybody… And, thank you Bud for providing this useful forum.

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