The Firefly Portable Vaporizer

Firefly The Firefly is an excellent portable vape with some unique qualities, and I’m pretty impressed with it.

It looks and feels sleek and very well-made, and it has a bit of weight to it. It’s also a convection style vape which means it utilizes heated air to vaporize your herbs as opposed to a heated surface like conduction vapes do (both styles can be good).

Through my testing I found it seems to perform best when using a certain technique. I describe it in detail in the review but basically it just involves pre-heating the herb chamber for a certain period of time before starting your draw.

The vapor it produces is smooth and has an excellent taste. It’s also very efficient with your material – the chamber only fits about 0.1g-0.2g but you’ll get about 5-6 good draws from that. Battery life is its biggest weakness but it does recharge quickly (45 mins), and if you wanted to you could get spare batteries because it’s actually removable.

When I think about vapes that are great for use when you’re on-the-go I think the Pax still comes out a little ahead, but it’s still totally doable with the Firefly. I think this one is fantastic for cordless use around the house or as a travel vape that can be easily stored and transported.

Click here to buy one with free shipping from the authorized dealer I recommend. That store has proven to provide excellent service over the years and most importantly you’ll have a valid 5-year warranty. I do get credit for the referral if you buy through my link, but this in no way influences my thoughts about his vape. I really appreciate your support!

Stay up!
-Bud

For more info check out my Pax vs Firefly comparison video:

VapeRating: 89/100

Video transcription:

Hey what’s up? This is my review of the Firefly vaporizer, and it’s been a little while since I’ve said this but this one is pretty cool. Who does this cat think she is?

So this is considered a portable vape, and I’ll talk more about that in a minute, and it currently sits at the top of the price range for portables.

Now before I show it to you up close and give you more details on how it works and how it performs, let me give you a few bullet points on what I think about it.

• The build quality is excellent.
• As far as ease-of-use, there’s definitely a technique you need to master to get it to perform really well. (but don’t worry, I’ll show you all about that)
• Vapor quality, when it’s used right, is excellent.
• It kinda has a small herb chamber, and it is kinda heavy for a portable.

This is also a convection style vape, which is pretty hard to get right in such a small unit but they definitely did a good job.

So here it is. Now you’ll notice that it is kind of on the large side for a portable, and if you want a quick size comparison we got the DaVinci Ascent, this is the Solo, and then we have the Pax.

Now earlier I mentioned that this vape is kind of heavy, and to give you an idea of what I mean the Firefly weighs 278 grams. The closest to that as far as portables go would be the Solo at 230 grams, then you have the Ascent at 192 grams, and then the Pax at 94 grams.

So the Firefly believe it or not is actually 3 times as heavy as the Pax – I don’t want you to get the wrong idea though because the fact it’s heavy is one of the very few negatives I found about this vape.

There are not many parts to this one, and it only has a few buttons. This right here on the side is the main power button, and when you turn that on it basically puts the vape into standby it doesn’t start heating yet.

On the other side this is the heater button. This part sticking out in the front is the mouthpiece, this is where you take your draw from. Then if you flip it over and take a look at the back, this is the battery cover, and if you take it off this vape actually has a removable battery. What that means is if you wanted to you could buy an extra charger and some extra batteries and that’ll let you use it for a longer period of time before it needs to be recharged.

Now if you turn it over, this part actually lifts off and it’s magnetic. So you’ll see there’s a little groove on each side and to get access to the herb chamber you just pull off the top like that.

So now what you have here this is the actual chamber where your material is gonna go, and it’s actually not really that big, I found through my testing that this vape seems to work best with like a 0.1 put in there (max capacity is roughly 0.2 if finely ground).

And one of the reasons I say that’s a good amount to put in here is because this isn’t like a lot of other vapes like the Pax and the Ascent, you don’t want your material firmly packed in there you want it kind of loose.

Like I mentioned this top piece is magnetic so after you pack the chamber you basically just place it on top and then it closes by itself.

Now believe it or not the actual vapor path, or where the vapor goes when you start heating it, is actually right down these channels all the way to the front to the mouthpiece.

So when this thing’s all closed up the only place for the vapor to go is through these little grooves into these side grooves and then it travels all the way down.

I actually found that the vapor is very nice when you use it properly and it’s smooth and tastes good, so that’s a definite bonus with this vape, very high quality vapor for a portable.

While I have the top off and you can easily see the chamber let me briefly explain the best way to use this thing. So what you’re gonna do is first turn it on, and that basically puts it into standby mode. Then you’re gonna have your material in there and obviously you’re going to put the top back on first. And actually let me put this down for a second because I wanna show you something.

When you first get it and you’re looking through the manual on how to use the thing it kind of makes it seem really simple. It basically just says put the battery in, plug it in, charge it, put your material in, turn it on, press the button to heat it and start drawing. And then it actually goes as far as saying “it’s that easy.”

But you know what through my testing and stuff I found it’s actually not that easy. When I followed the instructions and did what they said and I just pressed the button and started drawing I really wasn’t very satisfied with the results, I wasn’t getting a lot of vapor and I didn’t feel like it was working very well.

Then what I learned after experimenting some more and asking some questions is that it actually needs to be pre-heated before you start drawing. Now what I mean by that is if your material was in there and you’re getting ready to go you first want to push the heater button in, the button on the side here, and you want to wait 8 seconds.

I know it’s a little weird but count to 8, you’re going to see the light start to glow indicating that the herb chamber is being heated, then after 8 seconds let it go, wait about one second, then push it in again, count to four, let it start to glow and then start your draw.

Then basically the way this vape works is once you do that the longer you draw the more vapor you’re going to get and the denser it’ll be. If you’re only looking for some light draws only pull for a few seconds, and if you’re lookin for a really big draw you’re gonna have to pull for 10 to 15 seconds.

The reason I consider this vape kind of advanced, or that you need an advanced technique for the best performance, is that the steps I just told you are what I personally found to be the best way to use it, but it’s going to vary a little bit for everybody so you’re gonna have to do a little experimenting.

Some people might find that they get better results if they hold it down longer like for 10 seconds, and some people might want light vapor in which case they would only pre-heat it for a few seconds first.

Now I want to talk about battery life for a second because that was one of the only other things that I wasn’t really blown away by. It seems that if you do what I just did and that’s how you use it you’re only going to be able to take about 20 draws or so before the battery dies, or roughly two chamber-fulls.

So that’s not really a lot but the good part is that when you have to recharge it it literally only takes 45 minutes to recharge.

One other tidbit of information that might help you with your technique is that this vape is designed to max-out at 400°F inside the chamber. So basically what you’re doing when you use the technique I described is when you first hold it down for 8 to 10 seconds you’re letting the chamber heat up to about 400°, then you’re stopping and re-starting the heater sort of just to keep it hovering around the ideal temperature, which is normally in the upper 300°’s.

Then with the combination of how long you hold the heater in and how quickly you draw that’s how you ultimately get the ideal vaporization going on.

Lastly they do include a few different tools with it, they give you a little brush and then a little plastic poker thing, and you will be using these.

What I found happens a lot is halfway through your session some of your material is going to come up and sort of get stuck on this top lid and in the grooves. So after every 3 draws or so I found myself having to quickly just open it up and brush off all the little pieces that got stuck and getting them back inside the chamber (this is also a good time to stir your herbs). Not ideal, but not terrible.

Arite so as you watch me take a few draws here I want to just talk a little bit about what I think this vape is good for and when I think I’ll be using it.

Even though this vape is considered a portable the fact that it’s a little heavy, and it has the nice finish on the outside so you don’t want to bang it around a lot, and that it doesn’t hold a lot of material in the chamber, and that you kind of need to stir it and brush it every few draws, it’s not one that I’m gonna bring outside my house often and use it while I’m on-the-go.

That is something that I still kind of feel like I might use my Pax more for, but for using around the house as a “cordless” home vape that’s where I think the firefly really shines.

The build quality is definitely up there, it’s a really nice looking and feeling vape, and while not perfect by any means it’s a lot better than many of the other portables I’ve reviewed.

If you think this vape is for you and you’re looking to buy one, and you wanna help support your man, check out my link in the description to the authorized dealer I got mine from.

If you’re not sure and you have some questions about it works or how it compares to some other ones feel free to let me know and I’ll definitely do my best to help you out.

To see the rating that I gave this model and to watch reviews and get information on some other good units check out my website at VapeCritic.com

Me and the cat really appreciate you taking the time to watch, and stay up!

146 comments... add yours here

  1. Stainless steel vapor path once again. When are these guys going to learn? They got everything else pretty right. Automatically gets a 75/100 from me, and then we go down from there. I’m sticking with my ole’ buddy still, all glass vapor path. No chems, thanks.

    • I’ve reviewed a lot of vapes with both glass and stainless steel components and it doesn’t seem to make much of a difference what it’s made of, it’s more about how it’s designed.

      Good example, the Ascent has an all glass vapor path and ceramic herb chamber but it truly does not produce the highest quality vapor, it tastes pretty good but it gets kinda hot and a little harsh fairly quickly.

      And the vapor the Firefly produces is just as tasty, if not tastier, with its stainless steel path.

      • Not exactly Bud. I am a biochemist and glass is technically the only inert substance out of glass, copper, plastic, titanium and even steel. I think glass is the safest way to go and will gladly take a little “hot” vapor than a vape that is lined with material that can possibly leech. I hope this clears it up on the technical side.

        Patel

        • Forgive my snarkiness…

          I can’t find any studies that show high grade stainless steel leeches anything when heated to a max of 400°F, and practically every vape on the market has some in its construction, so I find your assertions hard to believe.

          Last I checked most cookware is made of stainless steel and goes on top of a flame on your stove. Is everyone who uses a frying pan being poisoned also?

          • I am an Aerospace Engineer and have a thorough knowledge of the processes that take place when metal is heated. I agree with the Vape Critics assessment that heating high Grade stainless steel is safe for contact with consumables. Much or most of what we consume is exposed to heated stainless steel before we consume it. Heat treatment has existed for purifying water and cooking food for millennia. Much of this was carried out in contact with metal via pans, pots, skewers, and a host of other cooking devices that were made of far lower quality SS than what you will find in a vape. Also, a vaporizer doesn’t reach nearly the of food being cooked on a grill or in a frying pan. Instead, it reaches the temperature of an oven set at 400. Much lower. Think about the metal grill that sits on top of the ribeye that you loved so much. That steel is of a lower quality than what is in the good vaporizers. And, it’s getting MUCH hotter. I guess biochemists should confer with Aerospace Engineers before consulting on metallurgical properties. ;)

      • hey man, so if you were to decide between the firefly and arizer solo, in your opinion which is the better all around portable vape

        • He says firefly. See the videos on the Magic-Flight Launch Box and Pax. They are all rated higher overall on the home page. Again see the reviews too on video. Spend time on this site and u will know in seconds

        • Hey Bud. Thanks for this website. The reviews are very helpful. I have an idea which portable vapes I’m interested in, but I still can’t choose btw firefly and arizer solo. The main qualities for me are quality of vapor and efficiency (how many pulls you get out of one filling). Which would you choose in that situation?

          Thanks Bud.

          • Hey they’re actually both very good and as far as vapor quality and efficiency they’re really not that different – their main differences are in how they work and what the experience/process will be like vaping with each of them. In a nutshell, the Firefly is a higher quality vape but the Solo requires less thinking/technique to get good results.

  2. Iove the review but am officially doubtful of vapes. I bought a highly recommended quality pen vape but it is less than a vapor and every bit an electric pipe with not so much vape but plenty of smoke. Are there any true vaporizers out there? or are they just a ‘new’ way to smoke? I really don’t want to smoke but eating it takes too long to bring my pain level down.

    • Yea man basically all pen vapes perform like that, that’s the problem. I don’t consider any pen vapes good for dried herbs, but if you take a look at my homepage anything I rate 80/100 or higher I think is good and I recommend for herbs (and they all truly vaporize).

    • Get a flower Vape. I ADORE my Magic-Flight Launch Box and Bud rates it his 3rd fave portable and is the least expensive at $119. I personally would start here for portables and I’d u can afford the Plenty for $300 something it’s AWESOME. now IF U WANT PORTABLE I don’t own the Pax but it’s rated second and firefly first which I don’t own. I honestly believe I personally am going to be happiest with my Launch Box for personal preference reasons. The Bottomline is pay attention. I will give u the need to knows on each portable of the 3 and then u decide because I trust each will make u happy. Based on personal preference
      Not just me. Bud says and I agree that below this they get slightly lesser quality. This is too tier stuff. For portables

      Launch Box. I own for over a year. I honestly am more in love with my same Launch Box today than the day I got it. It grows with u. Doesn’t smell like some say. Yes VAPOR itself smells a bit. I don’t notice it but SOMETIMES others can.
      It’s tiny. The smallest. And that’s a shining feature if the reason for getting a portable is BEING TO TAKE ON THE GO. it has a car battery adapter to charge batteries AS WELL as a car power adapter for the unit. Pax does. Firefly no.
      Can use with a LOT of herbs or a tiny amount. Neither Pax or firely have large chambers and neither I think let u use only a TINY amount. They need to be packed but not Launch Box. And firefly is so tiny (.1 g) in chamber u won’t have any less material. LOL!
      killer Launch Box feature
      Also I can’t imagine ANYONE LOVING TO DEATH their products and meticulously SLAVING over EACH and every accessory AS WELL as having better customer service and Warrenty (lifetime) than ANY other company I know more than Magic-Flight makers of the Launch Box.

      Pax. Bud says on the go he would still choose this over the Launch Box. Launch Box has tons of DOPE USEFUL ACCESSORIES like the Orbiter a bubbler brand new for the Launch Box. Lifetime Warrenty on the whole thing including glass at your own fault IF u buy in 2014. Everything but the glass is covered. Launch Box covered forever.

      I don’t own pax but I can’t imagine loving it as much as Bud. I bet it’s really solid. I really do. And maybe if both the Launch Box and the Pax were pre-packed everytime I would choose Pax. But overall Launch Box has too much going for it. Magic-Flight is bombarding us with AMAZING products and Launch Box sick add-ons.

      The firefly is made very very well according to Bud. It will be my next Vape instead of Pax like I originally planned. It’s is most expensive at $269 but Pax is about that too I think. Again Launch Box is $119. The others probably have 2 year Warranty. I totally bekieve this product is made well. And perhaps it is the strongest etc but again the Launch Box is just made with love and SUCH personality for each box with a ZILLION (affordable) customizations. Which is important to note that for only $6 I upgraded my Maple (their lowest grade wood Launch Box and the only available at the time I got mine. I recently bought their highest of their 3 graded woods (goes lowest to best quality: Maple (original. The lightest one and lightest weight probably) then cherry wood which looks dope and then walnut which is just dope. I recommends this wood. I think it’s less than or about $20 only for better wood and it’s worth it) so I recently bought a grinder u MUST GET if u get a Launch Box and if u get a portable Vape Bud will even recommend u buy THIS grinder by Magic-Flight: ‘The Finishing Grinder’. First of all watch one of their YouTube channel videos on the making of this or on their site videos. U will see the attention to detail these wood masters have!!!! And love for their work!! I bought in Walnut the best and darkest colored wood to see if I would like to upgrade my whole Launch Box. YES I DO. just get unless u prefer a different color.
      The three woods WILL. NOT. EFFECT AT ALL. YOUR HAPPINESSS. each will get u just as happy. They tell u that. It’s a luxury soley. But more durable I bet. But I’ve dropped this Änëmïä* zillion times. On concrete. Won’t break. Who cares if it does.

      Firefly. Horrible battery life. U MUST BUY AN EXTRA BATTERY right away. Same with Magic-Flight but their sets of 2 (which it’s comes with 1 set of 2. Get at least 4 total for great rotation. Never be uncharged. I have 16. No BSn around here lol! Magic-Flight will tell u about ‘Powerex’ batteries u can get that are even better than their batteries. They rock. Get em) firefly batteries are $30
      They ONLY KASY FOR 15 HITS. SEE VAPE CRITIC VIDEO. AWEFUL. So get more than 1 at $30 a piece. Damn.
      Or get a power adapter Here’s why

      Right now I love my Launch Box so much I use it at home. Especially with the Orbiter !!! But the firefly allegedly has better flavor and more dense vapor to get u happier quicker obviously than the other vapes portables
      SOOO I plan to skip on Pax and use Launch Box for out and about because the Firefly just so u know is like 5 times the size of the Launch Box and 4 times the size of Pax. Or so. It’s big and heavy. Sturdy. Strong. I plan to buy the only $15 power adapter for at home. No batteries plug into wall and it’s TOO BIG TO CARRY AROUND OUTSIDE AND CHAMBER SO TINY U ARE ALWAYS FILLING. Launch Box lasts forever. Truly and firefly has only 15 hits before battery dies? That’s crazy. I can’t be recharging that much on the go or changing chambers all the time. I get a few FULL (too packed admittedly) troughs like 3 per one battery!!

      Listen. Launch Box has a technique or u get poor vapor. Consult them and their helpful videos. I was confused like many at first. Best way is to inhale not suck if that makes sense and SLOW as u can about. For about 12 seconds +- I get fat hits. Makes me happy

      So there u have it. Firefly as a cordless HOME UNIT with slightly less potent vapor than my other ‘real’ home units which are ALWAYS going to be better vapor overall than portables. I hope a miracle happens and both can even improve. Wouldn’t it be great to get the vapor quality of the Plenty on the go? That will straight put me to sleep and herbs rarely do that for me

      Firefly. Of u get this Vape. Sure u can take it on the go. But I personally and Bud agrees that this vape shines as a potent cordless home unit. And Launch Box on the go for me. Pax for Bud. I’m skipping the Pax probably altogether. I think it’s probably a very good and deserving Vape tho so if it looks more appealing than the Launch Box by all means go with Ploom (makers of Pax)

      Look. When I started vaping I was disappointed too. I had a bad experience also and I almost completely gave up on the idea of vaping but I saw Bud’s Launch Box video and the Launch Box really changed my life.

      Thoughts?? Remember. Keep in mind the upgraded. I CANNOT believe how much useful stuff they make

      Oh yes. The Finishing Grindet. Why do u need this regardless of which Vape? Watch ALL of his videos in the OTHERSECTION ON Bud’s site here and u learn that vaping requires the smallest grindings u can get. (And as dry too. I store my herbs without a lid personally. Moisture is bad is my understanding. Bud will back that.
      Ok. Watch one of my favorite vids. It’s his GRINDER ROUNDUP video. The 2 best are the all around best Space Case 4 piece grinder (he has a small. I have every size. It’s from Mini to small to medium and finally large. And I particularly love the Mini and the Large. However if I could only buy one I’d get the small. Bud has this size too. BUT if I could only get one JUST FOR VAPING I would obviously get the mini which produces to iest grinds. This company is called Space Case Grinders.
      They produce the best grinder. If u get one of the small thru large get it in TITANIUM – it’s the black one. Not silver. It looks cooler but I found it’s better grinding and clean WAY WAY less often mini only comes in their top grade aluminum which is still incredibly nice. Clean more often tho)

      and the other best IMO is the Magic-Flight finishing grinder. Again it makes grinding even smaller than the Space Case Grinders Mini. WOW. even grinds u to a powder. And the wood making is so dope that I just bought a second one even tho there is absolutely no reason besides I LOVE Magic-Flight stuff when it’s brand new

      Check out the Magic-Flight Launch Box. pax and firefly reviews here. And the grinder round up under the OTHER section and also visit Magic-Flight no matter what. Write them with a million Q’s. A very happy person or creature named ‘Hobbit’ will merrily reply at length if necessary

      BluPanthr

  3. Hey Bud, I was wondering if you could go into more detail about the benefits of this vape versus the Pax. You seem to suggest that this one is better for at home use, but I’m curious as to what actually makes it better than simply using the Pax at home. Is the vapor quality better overall? Is it more efficient with herbs than the Pax? Also, considering that you think this serves best as a cordless home vape, I’d love to see a Solo Vs Firefly review, or at least a couple of reasons on why you think one is better than the other, especially regarding vape quality and efficiency as I mentioned earlier. These are the three vaporizers I am considering buying. Really, the only reason I would get the Pax is if it performed just as well as the Firefly and Solo, but I’m guessing that isn’t the case given your ratings and previous statements. I’m really interested in the cordless home vape idea, so portability really isn’t much of a factor between these three for me.

    P.S. Love the videos and reviews. I’ve been watching/reading your stuff for nearly a year and a half now, and it’s been great. I wish there were more honest review sites like this one.

    • Hey Conner thanks for posting.

      All 3 of those vapes would be good for home use but the Pax is one of the few that is truly designed for on-the-go use.

      If you will rarely be bringing your vape with you anywhere I say the Firefly might be a slightly better option for home use because it’s a little more elegant, has a slightly higher build quality, produces slightly higher quality vapor (taste and potency), and is better for slower, more relaxed sessions where you can wait a few minutes between draws. “Slight” is the key word here, I only rated it one point higher than the Pax overall with all things considered.

      If you do want the ability to carry the vape around with you and use when you’re out and about the Pax is a better choice IMO. It’ll still perform well when you want to just use it at home but then you have the flexibility of easily tossing it in your pocket and going somewhere with it. It just works differently in that once you start heating the oven it’s recommended to vape all the material in one session without taking too long of a break between draws. It physically weighs less so it may not feel as solid and elegant, but it still produces good quality vapor and performs well. It’ll also require the most frequent cleaning of the three (about every 6-12 sessions).

      You mentioned you’re most interested in a cordless home vape, so it’s not that the Pax would be bad for that at all it’s just that the Firefly or Solo may be slightly better choices to cut down on maintenance, and between those two I just personally find the Firefly to provide a more enjoyable experience overall when I consider all of the questions listed here (it has less draw resistance too).

      I’ll definitely consider doing some more comparison videos for these portables, these seem to be common questions lately, thanks for your request!

      • Is their a portable vaporizer out there with a glass heating chamber that can be used for herbs and then with an adapter be used for wax. And one the truly vaporizes the stuff

        • I think the closest thing to what you’re looking for would be the DaVinci Ascent. I believe it has a ceramic chamber with an all-glass vapor path, and from what I heard it does wax well. Peace!

  4. I Second Conner’s question. How does this compare to the pax?

    I bought the volcano for home use and pax for portable use based on your reviews… and I could not be more pleased. Both my girlfriend and I switched entirely to vaping. Ive tried all my friends vapes and nothing has really compared to either as far as overall ease of use and vapor production.

    Why does the firefly rate higher than the pax? it just looks like a glorified MFLB with internal battery, and a hastle to clean. (Not that the pax isn’t lol) Is it worth getting?

    • Nicely done with the vapes!

      I just posted a lengthy reply to Conner above, check it out and let me know if there’s still anything that’s unclear.

      I only rated it 1 point higher than the Pax overall with all things considered so they’re both really good vapes they just work in different ways and provide slightly different experiences.

      In one sentence the benefits of the Firefly are that it’s a little more luxurious, feels a little more solid and well built, it can produce great quality vapor, and it works well with small amounts of material.

      A lot of thought goes into the overall rating I give each vape and there are many things I consider, most of which are listed on this page.

      If you have a Volcano and a Pax I do not think you need to jump and get this one unless you’re specifically looking for a lower-maintenance cordless vape to use around the house.

  5. Are you going to be reviewing the new Snoop Dogg Pen? It claims to have the ability to effectively use actual herbs, not oil, and the best part about it is that it is only $99! I would expect that Snoop would know how to design a good vape. ;) Portable vapes, and vaporizers in general, are so expensive compared to combustion methods. Also, is there any information about harmful gases/fumes from heated stainless steel in comparison to glass? For instance when aluminum is heated it emits a very harmful chemical/gas that can cause brain problems and heated plastic emits cancer-causing chemicals/fumes.
    Love the reviews. Keep them coming. :)

    • Hey I’ll consider it thanks for your request! I just took a look at it though and it looks just like other pen vapes that do not perform very well as true herbal vaporizers, but I’ll keep my eye out!

      As for your second question see my response here to another visitor who asked something similar.

  6. How is the drag/pull when inhaling with this vape? My friend has a pax at it seems to have alot of drag when inhaling. Can you use this vape while it is charging?

      • Although you have recommended for cordless at home use, this response sells me on buying it for portable and travel use.

        I love my Plenty for its unrestrictive airflow and want a similar portable. I tried the Pax but was disappointed due to having to pull so hard.

        I am curious, when you make a statement like “Clean every 6-12 sessions.” How many packings do you consider per session?

        • Cool you can definitely use it as a portable as long as you’re cool with how it works, I’ve started taking mine out with me sometimes as a backup to my Pax when I’m gonna be out of the house for a while.

          I love the Plenty too and agree that the Pax is a very different feeling when taking a draw.

          Generally when I say “session” I’m talking about one full packing and vaping the entire contents before shutting it off.

          You could go a while without cleaning this one if you had to, the only real downside to putting off cleaning for a while is that the buildup on the window starts to block your view of the chamber, but very little function is ever lost.

  7. Hi Bud,

    I’ve watched all your reviews and I really enjoyed all of them. Thanks to your reviews I bought my Pax and Plenty vaporizers and I couldn’t be more satisfied.
    The deal is why do you rate Firefly vaporizer above Pax, since it’s way heavier compared to the Pax, the battery doesn’t last as long as the Pax according to your review, and it’s also kind of bulky for a portable?
    Is the vapor that comes from Firefly vaporizer much better for you to rate it above Pax? It’s funny thought that you also mentioned in your review that you still keep using Pax more often when you out of your home, so I guess Pax is still your favorite portable vape, right?
    I mean, if Firefly is too heavy and bulky and not to good to carry around and If it’s better to use at home, than I guess we would prefer to use the Volcano or Plenty which are far better in vapor quality.
    This is why I am surprised that you have rated Firefly above Pax and I really would like to know why? I really didn’t see any big advantage after I’ve watched your review.
    Also how the new Ascent vape compares to Firefly?
    Looking foward to hearing from you…
    Keep up reviewing new vapes.

    Cheers….

    Franco

    • Hey Franco thanks for posting, and nice choice of vapes!

      Please keep in mind there are many things I think about when I come up with my overall ratings, and I only ended up rating them one point apart (out of 100).

      Basically the Firefly does a little better in these areas: Vapor taste, Draw resistance, Build quality, Elegance, Maintenance required

      And the Pax does a little better in these areas: Portability, Ease of use, Consistency, Battery life

      Pax is still the one I will choose most often when I want a vape to leave my home with and use on-the-go. If you have a Volcano or Plenty at home it’s really not necessary to get a Firefly also unless you’re specifically looking for a cordless home vape that requires less maintenance than the Pax.

      The FF would still be good for traveling too, but I’m mainly talking about like storing it in your luggage and then taking it out at your destination, not necessarily using when you’re on-the-move.

      The Ascent is pretty good I’m just not a huge fan of how hot the vapor feels sometimes, I think what the FF produces is a bit smoother and a little more potent.

  8. Great website. I really appreciate your integrity. I have read/viewed a lot of reviews and a lot of folks either do not go enough into the “Real life experience” and/or they give companies a free pass when it comes to the negative aspects of their products. You, on the other hand deal with these tough things and I thank you for that.

    Honestly, I pulled the trigger when I saw your rating of the device (before reading or watching the video).

    My question is that your review doesn’t seem as positive as your rating. What do you love about this product?

    Thanks!

    • Hey thanks for the kind words!

      It’s a really nice vape just don’t forget to experiment a little with the different techniques I describe and you’ll find the best way to use it for you fairly quickly.

      I’ve been trying to put more of an equal amount of emphasis on both the good and bad aspects of the vapes I review, so I can totally understand why my rating may not match my tone in some parts of the video.

      There’s a few things I really like about this vape: It feels really solid and well made, it’s sexy and elegant, it’s efficient with small amounts of material, it produces great tasting vapor and it also seems to have an above-average potency.

      There’s so many different things I have to think about when I come up with an overall rating so I don’t do it hastily and I really try to consider all aspects of ownership.

      Let me know when you get it and have tried it a few times!

      • Ok, I got it and have had about 10 bowls over the past few days. In terms of both function, build quality, and design, it really does feels like a love child between a MFLB and a Leica Camera.

        Some initial notes and observstions:

        If you pack the bowl tightly and don’t stir, it is easy to combust. Combustion starts at the bottom center of the bowl.

        You can use a top screen and that stops 99% of material from getting ducked up out of the bowl.

        You can hit low and slow for the same

        If I fill the bowl 75% or less, I can shake it instead of storing. (With top screen)

        I can get 3 bowls with one battery charge

        It is a little bigger than you think it will be. It feels like a candy bar cellphone, but made out of metal.

        One time I was vapeing and not getting any vapor, looking around I realized that the lid was not on correctly. I fixed the lid and the next hit I took was pure combustion. This MIGHT be the temperature spike some folks are experiencing.

        The premium package extra battery and charger are not going to ship until January. I had to live chat with them to learn that.

        Pressing the button starts the heat, but the heat intentionally lowers the longer you hold the button down. The designers explained this in their podcast. The idea is that once the herbs get up to temperature they need less heat to maintain that temperature. Releasing and repressing the button starts the cycle over again.

        Enjoy!

  9. I own the original Davinci, MFLB, and the Pax. There is no possible way that thing is better than the Pax! But you rate it higher? Looks like a Jetson’s version of the MFLB. And with that, how can they justify the price?

    • There are many things I consider in my overall rating (see here), and I did only end up rating it one point higher.

      I explained this in more detail in some of my responses above but basically the Firefly does a little better than the Pax in these areas: Build quality, Elegance, Vapor taste, Draw resistance, Maintenance required.

      One of it’s biggest negatives is that it’s definitely not as easy or convenient to use on-the-go as the Pax.

      And yes it basically is a more advanced version of the MFLB, which is a great vape, so this one is a bit better and gets a higher rating.

  10. I am also interested in a more in depth Firefly vs. Pax comparison.

    The biggest negative I feel is the fact you have to open up the top every few draws to brush off pieces stuck in the top. If you don’t grind the herb as fine, will it still get stuck? Is there any way to get through a whole chamber without brushing or opening it up?

    • I’ll definitely consider making a comparison of the two, thanks for your request – in the meantime read over some of my responses to the comments above on the page and you’ll get a better idea of how they compare.

      Yes you don’t need to grind super fine to get good results with this vape (I should have mentioned this in the video) so if you just use material ground up in say a 4-piece you shouldn’t have as big of an issue with pieces getting stuck on the top.

      It’s hard to go a whole chamber-full without stirring or mixing but sometimes you can avoid opening it and just shake it a little to mix the material around.

  11. Hey Bud, I was reading through this vape’s thread on the fc forums, and I came across an issue whare there would be a sudden spike in the heater’s tempeture causing the material to combust, have you come across this issue?

    • Hey I haven’t experienced any temp spiking or anything but if you hold the heater button down too long and don’t draw at a regular pace it’s possible for the material to overheat, similar to how the Launch Box works.

      What I found through my testing was that you just need to find the sweet spot of how long to pre-heat your herbs before you start drawing, and then you also develop a feel for how long to draw to get the amount of vapor you want.

      The fact that it’s possible to overheat your material in this vape is one of the reasons I say it requires a bit of an advanced technique, but once you get in the groove of how to use it you can easily judge how long to heat it for without overheating.

  12. jeez– the whole video was about what was wrong with this vap- i’ll stick with the Arizer Solo. much simpler.

    keep up the good work .

    • Yea I’m just trying to put an equal amount of weight on both the positives and negatives when I do my reviews now, but overall it’s very good and I personally like it more than the Solo.

  13. Ok first off thanks for the great videos. I’ve watched the pax videos and the firefly video numerous times, and I’ve read through the comments, I have a quick question, I think I know the answer… but… I’m a guy who uses the little metal cigarette replica99% of the time, & I use it 2 or 3 times a day, 3-4 fills at a time max. The main reason that I want either the pax or the firefly is almost entirely about being able to use in public. Even when I probably won’t have a reason to do so more than a couple of times a month. So considering all of this….would you be so kind to give me your educated recommendation?? I would assume you would recommend the FF.

    Thank u,

    • Hey based on your usage habits the Firefly is probably closer to what you do now (small amounts multiple times) but I do think the Pax is a bit better for on-the-go use if that’s what you mean by using in public (you just turn it on and vape, no special heating technique or stirring required) — but the Pax is best when you fill the oven at least half full which is usually 10+ draws.

      • I couldn’t wait for you to respond so I pulled the trigger on the gray firefly.

        I love it!

        It is really perfect for me!

        Thanks for the great videos,

  14. I apologize I didn’t read all the reviews.. Just got my firefly.. I’m already onto my third one:-(.. I for sure dig it better then the plume but BEWARE!!!!

    My issue is with the glass circle on the chamber.. Whatever you do don’t touch this!! I went to wipe it and the glass circle moved making the O- ring seal around it come out!!! Barely wiped it and this has now happened twice.. Really disappointed !! A total flaw on the design!! Originally bought it through vape world and after going through multiple phone calls they did overnight another one.. But after my second one broke I decided to message the company.. So far no response but no surprised since it’s holiday time.. Hopefully they take care of this.. Until then I’m sticking with my favorite!! PLENTY:-)

  15. Hey Bud,

    Great reviews!!!
    I’m actually considering getting a portable herb vaporizer, and hesitate between a few models :
    1/ Ascent
    2/ Pinnacle Pro
    3/ Firefly
    4/ GrassHopper

    I’m looking for a home device, but not plugins.
    I don’t care about stealth and portability, I care about both taste and vapor quality.
    I prefer “on-demand” to “sessions”, but I don’t like the idea of Firefly combustion depending of the way I use it.
    I have a little preference now for the Pinnacle Pro, but that’s so complicated. :)
    Any advice?

    • Hey I like the Firefly and Ascent but I dunno about the other two, I was really disappointed with the original Pinnacle and the Pro model doesn’t look different enough for me to believe it performs better, and the Grasshopper looks interesting but up until now no one has been able to make a “good” pen style vape for herbs, and I know that’s what they’re going for but in a video I saw about it the guy took a 20-30 second draw and only got a light wisp of vapor, so I’m skeptical of that one but I’ll try it when it comes out.

      If taste and vapor quality are your top priorities I would say the FF is the best choice

  16. I am wondering are there times you would want to use the firefly over the volcano? How is the vapor quality as compared to the volcano?

    Also, have you been able to get through a whole bowl without having to open the top to clear the vapor path and stir? I think it would be optimal to just pack one, and complete it without having to open the top.

    Thanks!

    • Yea there are times when the FF is more convenient since there’s no warm up time required, and also when I want just a draw or two.

      Vapor quality from the FF can be just as good as the Volcano but the V is more consistent and heats the material more evenly without the need to stir.

      It would definitely be ideal to not have to open the chamber and stir during a session, but it is pretty much necessary for best results, although depending on how much you pack and how finely it’s ground up you could sometimes get away with just shaking the vape to mix the herbs instead of taking off the cover and stirring.

  17. Save yourself the effort of having to answer these posts, all asking the same question Bud! Pax vs Firefly review. Bring it on!!!!

  18. Hello! I stumbled upon your reviews as I was considering buying a vaporizer, and I love your reviews! I’m torn between the firefly and the pax. Which of the two is easier to maintain and clean? Which of the two delivers stronger draws or are they pretty much equal? Which of the two could probably withstand a big drop? Does the firefly ever get annoying since it can’t pack as much herb? Do you ever use tea? Sorry for all of the questions but I would love to hear your opinions!

    • Hey they both require some cleaning and maintenance but the Pax needs it a little more often and the procedure is slightly more involved. Firefly can deliver a stronger draw under optimal conditions (right amount of heating time, freshly packed) but Pax draws are more consistent and you get more of them from a single packing.

      The FF has a sleeker finish which would probably get damaged more easily from a drop but I would be very careful not to drop either of them (Pax is lighter and not as slippery which makes it a little less prone to being dropped)

      I wouldn’t say it’s annoying to have a small chamber like the FF does but it is a different vaping experience, it’s more “hands on” vaping than a unit like the Pax, which is more of a “pack it, turn it on, vape” type of unit.

  19. Hi There, I bought the FF about three weeks ago. I have to say that I found your review to be very informative and a gateway to getting the best use out of my FF. I experimented with it a little and now I have a GREAT vaping experience. I quit smoking herbs for a long time and I have wanted to get back into the game. The negatives of combustion was heavy smoke, coughing hard, getting [too strong effects], costly swisher sweets and the manual efforts, [etc]. This is the delivery system I have been looking for. I’m 51 and a product of the 70′s. This is a product we could only have dreamed about back then. Sleek, heavy and the design is remarkable. Its fits great with my contemporary furniture. It was your review that clinched it for me. Keep up the great work.

  20. Hi I’ve never vaped before and I’m looking for a vaporizer to begin my journey (:D) But after looking through reviews for a whole month I’m still stuck between the Pax and the Firefly. I’m really confused because both of them have pros that I really like. Can you honestly just tell me which one you prefer for vaping?

  21. All other negatives and positives aside i want to know if the pax or the firefly is going to do a better job of getting me where i want to be with the least amount of drags. Which will give me more bang for my buck when it comes to my herbs.

  22. bud, love your reviews and value your opinion. i have a pax which i love due to portability, stealth and great vapor. kindy quirky with the mouthpiece and having to clean all the time (daily user). i had the mflb and didnt like taking batteries with me everywhere. did the job though.my question is this: i want another portable vape, just as a back up and because i want one. lol. i have it down to the ascent and firefly. which would you recommend between those two? i cant decide. lol. thanks for your awesome reviews.

    • Hey thanks for posting! I like both, I’ve found the Firefly a little difficult to use on-the-go but great at home, and the Ascent has better portability but requires more material in the chamber to perform best.

  23. Bud! Love your reviews. I bought the Firefly based on your review and couldn’t be happier. Just one question regarding the screen inside the bowl. Did you have any problems replacing it? Do you know of any alternatives for it other than buying one through the main Firefly website?

    THANKS!

    • Hey man sorry for delayed response, very glad you’re enjoying the vape! Changing the chamber screen is pretty easy, I was able to get mine out with the poker tool they include. You shouldn’t have to change it often but once you run out of the screens they include with it you should be able to use any quality fine-mesh screens that are the same size if you don’t want to get the oem ones.

  24. I am completely torn between the Firefly and the Ascent.
    I mainly indulge alone, high quality material, around the house and don’t travel with it. I and intend to buy a desktop vape for company. So my priorities for a portable are efficiency, conservation, high quality vapor, and something I can hit and put down.

    The Ascent has great design, glass vapor path, digital, programmable, expandable for water pipe, usable for oils, battery life. It’s from the future and looks awesome.

    But the Firefly is completely convection and from reading the forums seems to have super high quality vapor. And the design seems that with proper technique, is convenient, durable, and efficient.

    Your thoughts between those two?

    • Hey I think they’re both good but it sounds like the Firefly might be more up your alley in terms of how it works, and I do think the vapor quality is a bit higher.

      It’s better for smaller amounts of material at a time, as low as 0.1g per packing, whereas the Ascent seems to work best when fully packed, and the chamber is large (~0.5g capacity).

  25. Great posts. One question; for us that primarily utilize these devices only at home, what would be the most effective and efficient item to use for the “1-hit” style? If I’m not understanding correctly, it appears that most of these items do not work well unless they are packed with an adequate amount of product, therefore requiring over use or wasted product for a single session. While small and compact is far more ideal, I truly see conservation of product. Something that you get a solid pull or two in a single session and that’s it. I’m highly reluctant to join the vape crowd if I need to use a gram of super high quality product for every session.

    Thanks in advance for your response.

    • Hey in general most of the vapes I like and recommend work well with approx. 0.2g of material packed in the chamber. There are certainly exceptions to this rule, but none of them need anything close to a full gram.

      Most vapes are also not designed for one big draw and they work best when you vape at a slow pace and take ~10-20 draws over 10-20 minutes.

      However, the Firefly is different, and one of the ways I’ve been using it sounds like exactly what you’re looking for, something to pack ~0.1g in and vape all of it in a couple draws.

      Once you get the technique down you can pack a small amount and basically vape it all in one big draw if you wanted to, or maybe two draws, instead of taking 5 or 6 smaller pulls.

      • This is awesome and a couple months late, but I’ve circled back around to this again. I might pick up the firefly. Thanks again.

  26. I have a Firefly and I love it except that the window O-ring kept coming out. I decided to end the problem by using JBweld metal epoxy that is rated at 500 degrees (F) to seal that darn thing permanently. Wish me luck that I do not poison myself…lol.

  27. Great review! I’m often on FC, but hadn’t looked into this one much- so I was wondering how you would compare this to the Cera? It looks pretty much like they’re using the same system of heating, just implemented in a different (horizontal) design, and looks more user-friendly. From the way the vapor path is made, it looks like it’d cool the vapor a lot better too. Anyone have experience with both of them who can shed some light?

  28. hey bud, first off keep up ur great work! very comprehensive site and great reviews. however I am, like a lot of people new to vaping, am torn between a few models and could do with some advice to help me make the right purchase. im an everyday user, my girlfriend and I would like to start vaping as a healthier alternative to combustion and a means to conserve our expensive herbs. would like a portable so we have the option of taking it to friends, are unbound by cords and for the convenience. I undrrstand that the current market leaders are the Pax, MFLB, Solo and the Firefly. weve already discounted the mflb due to it being a bit fiddly and possible to combust, so are torn between the remaining three. im put off the solo by the draw resistance issues and stem issues, put off pax because i hear its easy to use too much with it and also needs to be shipped in. we are drawn to the firefly because it looks good, yoyr review says its great taste and quality, small capacity etc but its so expensive. is it worth us forking out the extra bucks to have a firefly shipped in? or would the solo cut it?
    appreciate any help u can give in advance
    stay up ;)

  29. I’m upgrading from the solo, which I love. I’m looking at the ascent, firefly, and pax. Discreetness and portability are key but I’m also looking for durability. Also the pax scares me with having to clean it all the time. That is probably the biggest issue for me and buying the lube and whatnot. The firefly I’ve read no issues with but it’s so new what it the batteries go bad after six months? The ascent just doesn’t have enough consistent reviews for me to know what’s up with.

    • Hey if you’re lookin for the most discreet and most portable the Pax is probably your best bet, I like this one a lot but use it mainly at home for a variety of reasons.

      Cleaning is unfortunately part of regular maintenance with the Pax but you should only have to do it once every 6 to 12 sessions, and the cost of lube in the long run is minimal, you only use a single drop after each cleaning.

      With the Firefly it has a removable battery so if somehow it dies and isn’t covered under warranty you are able to order just a single replacement battery if you need it.

      The Ascent is pretty good too I just can’t get it to perform very well with small amounts of material, it seems to work best fully packed and it has a fairly large herb chamber (approx .5g capacity), but if you don’t mind that it’s not a bad option.

  30. Hello,

    From all the reviews I read when deciding between the Pax and the Firefly, I considered yours to be the best and most concise. Thanks. I bought the Firefly. Very nice and works exactly as you explained.
    I am a small time and not daily vape guy, so this may be a dumb question. If I stick to the loose packed .1ish chamber load, how many draws would you suggest before discarding and reloading?

    Thanks.

    • Hey glad you’re diggin the vape, I’ve found that I typically get a handful of good draws from a ~0.1 packing, maybe 5 or 6 before the herbs are totally spent, sometimes less depending how long I draw.

      When you stop getting vapor and the taste becomes funky you generally know your material is just about spent.

  31. Howdy. Just got my Firefly a few days ago and I’m still trying to figure it out for best results. Your review video has definitely helped out but I’ve just had Inconsistent results. This device has always got the job done but I was hoping for a more rewarding vaping experience. But I need to let you know that I used to own a classic Volcano and with no experience with the Plenty, I can’t imagine any other vaporizer coming close to the results it delivers. So far my best results with the Firefly have been full chambers of coarsely ground herbs and preheating the chamber as you’ve instructed to do. I’ve never had a great session grinding the material to sand fine quality. But overall this device does as its supposed to. My best experience so far was when I actually took it on the go buy I bought this more for a nicer at home option. I’ll end up owning another Volcano if I continue vaporizing.
    Thanks again for your awesome reviews and tips, Bud.

  32. Bud,

    Appreciate your in depth analysis. I went with the FF based on personal need and your review of the FF and Pax helped me with my decision (also purchased on VW). I found a cool trick online that allows the FF a little more functionality and even less maintenance. People are buying the arizer bucket screens, pulling out the FF bottom screen and using the buckets as pre-loaded, swappable inserts. People are then putting the extra FF screen on top of the bucket screen supposedly eliminating almost all mess. I was wondering if you have tried this technique and/or what your thoughts on it are. sorry for the long winded comment.

    CHEERS!

      • Hey Bud,
        Have you tried this method? I love my FF but I wish it was easier to keep clean while keeping the material off the glass. Placing the FF screen over the filled chamber sounds like this method should work but I worry about metal rubbing up against the chamber, especially the bottom part.
        Keep up the good work!

        • Hey George, yes I actually tried using the bucket screen a few times, it’s interesting and cool that it keeps the herbs all tidy but I’ve found that most of the time I need to stir at least once mid-session, and this is easier to do when the herbs are packed in the chamber normally.

          It’s definitely something to try to see if you like it if you own this vape.

          • I just put one of the extra screens on top and that prevents things (usually) from being blown around regardless of how hard I pull. This is my first vape and it seems pretty nice.

  33. I thought I was sold on the FF but am really still on the fence between it and the Pax…

    I hate resistance while smoking, so was originally heavily inclined towards the FF.

    But Pax has superior batteries, larger chamber, and seems to have some pretty happy customers.

    Discretion is not important to me- What is important to me is to get the most effective draws possible and the most out of my [material].

    Bud, lets get dramatic~ Hypothetically, if you had to choose between the two, and were going to have one [travel/portable] vape for the rest of your life, which one would it be?

    I just took out funds and am ready to buy immediately, I have watched a million videos and still can’t decide.

    • Ah man that’s a really tough call! Take out more funds and buy both! ;)

      You really can’t go wrong with either one, I’ve been using both regularly and my FF is sitting on my desk in front of me as I type this, but as I mention a few times I keep my FF at home 99% of the time cus the Pax is def easier and more convenient to carry around and use while you’re on-the-go.

      If you still can’t decide just flip a coin!

      • Thanks Bud, Looks like FF will be the one… but I am curious, is there a reason you do not review any of the butane based vaporizers on your site?

        I would love to see a future review comparing the Lotus to the Hammer. Have you any experience with either of those models?

        • No doubt, I’ve reviewed the iolite and Wispr which both run on butane but I haven’t tried any other models, thanks for your request!

  34. Hi Bud, I really enjoy your reviews. I’ve got the extreme q and really enjoy the quality and consistency of the vapor but it requires more cleaning than I expected. I’m looking for a portable unit and the pax sounds like it needs more cleaning than I want so I’m considering the FF as well as a couple of units you haven’t reviewed namely the pinacle pro and vaporblunt 2.0. I’d love your thoughts on these units as I’ve seen other reviews of the pinacle pro rate as the best available. My biggest concerns are low maintenance, low draw resistance, low to no heat on the draw, something I can pass around with ease. Does the FF combust if you hold the trigger too long?

    • Hey Jimbo thanks for posting, I ended up reviewing the Pinnacle Pro also and wasn’t too thrilled with it so my vote would still be for this vape. If you hold the heater button too long and/or take too long of a draw there is the possibility of combusting your herbs, so it’s definitely important to have a little technique down so you know how long to heat & draw for.

  35. Hey Bud, thanks for all your reviews. Good stuff.

    Can you tell me what kind of draw resistance the firefly has? Is it at all like the pax? I found the pax too hard to pull from. . I’m looking for a nice at home vape with little to no draw resistance. I also want something that I can just put in a drawer and not have to worry about people seeing it.

    thanks

    • Hey Jeff good question, the draw resistance with this vape is significantly less than the Pax, it’s definitely easier to pull from, and super easy to store.

  36. Haha you were right Bud, it’s all about technique. At first I wasn’t overly satisfied with the FF but now that I’ve become accustomed to how I like to use it, this device kicks ass. I’m so happy with my purchase and I haven’t smoked since I’ve acquired the FF, only vape and I can tell the difference physically. I also don’t consume as much. So keep on keeping on. Great hands on reviews.

  37. Firefly folks make a pretty pipe, but once it bursts into flames, you will see that the company will sidestep their own return policies and not reply to your communications. Thanks for stealing my money.

    • Sounds like BS to me. Every report I’ve read has given them kudos for their customer service. If you don’t believe me check out the Firefly thread on [FC forum]. Not one single case of bad service. Sure there have been defective units, but they have always responded quickly and exchanged products out. There are dozens of posts that attest to that. That many peeps can’t be wrong.

  38. Hey Bud,

    I have ordered the firefly based upon your great review and am currently awaiting its arrival. In the meantime I have a question: after you do the preheat for 8 to 10 seconds, stop for 1 second, and then heat again for 4 seconds, when I go to take my draw do I want to continue to keep the button pressed that heats the chamber or should I depress it after the 4 seconds? That may sound like a weird question but I am totally new to vaping.

    • Hey Alan my apologies for the late response but yes, you should continue holding the button in while you take your draw.

      Hope you’re enjoying it!

  39. Your reviews are the shit dude. Decided to buy a Firefly through your link. Wanted the Dark Grey but won’t re-stock until 4/10, ended up getting the Silver.
    Can’t wait to try this sexy beast out.

  40. Hey man very helpful and informative review. I’m still honestly torn between the pax and firefly. I want a decent vape to invest in. Portability is not that big of an issue for me but what I’m concerned about but didnt quite see in the comments (or maybe I’m blind) is the smell… which one doesnt produce that much or strong smell? Any input is grratly appreciated. Thank you! Cheers!

    • Hey thanks man basically all vapes smell at least a little bit, the odor is really just in the vapor that it produces, and I usually tell people that in general vapor smells less than half as strong as smoke and it dissipates more than twice as fast, so it’s much easier to control.

      • Thanks Bud! I got mine and I love it! It’s biggee than I expected but it’s beautiful. Plus sweet full flavors! However is it normal for the unit to get VERY hot after a couple of draws? :-/

        • Hey glad to hear it! But no it shouldn’t be getting very hot on the outside, if you continue having that issue I would contact support and see what they say, and if you do let me know what happens!

  41. I’ve had the Pax and the FireFly [FF] and really recommend the FireFly over the Pax. With the FF you can vape tiny amounts and get great results where with the Pax you gotta pack it to work right. Cleaning the FF is a breeze, where the Pax is a real PITA to keep clean. Both are battery operated, but the FF has a replaceable battery so you can have several at the ready. The FF batteries charge faster too. Lastly and most important, the Pax tends to stink a lot. I mean really, really stink. Unless you have just cleaned it, don’t plan on keeping the Pax in your pocket and going into public as people will be wondering where the reek is coming. So much for stealth.

    The FF is easily pocketed and has no odor unless you put it right up to your face. IMO there is no contest. Unless weight and capacity are primary concerns, pass on the Pax. Those are the ONLY areas where it out-performs the FireFly.

    • Hey I really appreciate you posting your thoughts but I do disagree with your assessment of the Pax, it’s not as bad as you make it sound, I still use mine constantly and everyone knows the vapes I have to choose from. They’re both really good IMO

  42. Hi Bud,

    Got a question about Australia, yep the troublesome one.

    I’ve really got my eye on the Firefly here, as it just seems to be the perfect fit for me. However, I can’t seem to source one in the country.

    I’ve done a relatively thorough search, and can find no legal laws prohibiting their import, however the site you link to above says it unfortunately cannot deliver to my country.

    I was wondering if you had any other suggestions on where to buy this.

    At least I live in Melbourne, current plan is to just wander around all the shops I can find, hopefully one of them will stock them. If you have any ideas, let me know.

    Otherwise, just wanna say cheers for all the awesome reviews. I definitely would not of been as interested in using a cape if I hadn’t found your website.

    • Hey David,

      I do apologize for not having a source for people like you to get this vape, I’m not quite sure why those shipping restrictions exist but unfortunately they do.

      I’m never done this myself so I’m not exactly sure how it works, but some people have told me that they’ve used package forwarding services to get vapes delivered overseas. You’re sort of given a temporary US address to send the package to and then the forwarding company sends it to you, apparently.

      Unfortunately I don’t have any to recommend but I think if you do some searching on that you should be able to come up with some options.

      Good luck and be well!

  43. I’m stuck when deciding between the pax, firefly and ascent. I’m a veteran smoker and I have to stop combusting. When selecting a vape I’m most concerned with the quality of the [draw] and health of the vapor path. I have an easyvape and atmos raw and I just don’t want another pos. I do want something that has portability since I will be buying a volcano or herbalizer, and don’t need two home units. but portability is not my main concern. I’m looking for a potent dense good tasting clean vapor. I’m leaning towards the pax but is that only your go to unit because of its ease and portability? Does the firefly have a better quality vapor and just less portability then the pax? Can the ascent have dense clouds that may resemble the pax?

    • This is how I would describe the three vapes you’re interested in:

      Firefly – best tasting vapor, highest build quality, shortest battery life, requires technique for best results.

      Pax – most portable, best for use on-the-go, average to above-average vapor quality, good battery life, easy to use.

      Ascent – portable but larger and heavier than the Pax, average quality vapor because it’s a little light and hot feeling, long battery life, works best when fully packed (almost 0.5g).

  44. I’m not getting any vapor from my firefly even tried your 8 and 4 sec method, pulled as hard and as long as I could. Did u find it hard to pull? Is it possible I got a defective FF?

    • Try holding the button down for 10 seconds. Letting go. Holding the button for four seconds before starting to inhale and the let go again. Continue inhaling while proceeding to hold the button down again for another four seconds. Repeat until ready to exhale. This method is called vapor surfing. More information can be found about it on the Firefly website.

      I tried the 8/4 timing and it didn’t work great. Currently, I do a 10/5 timing and it seems perfect. 10 and then 5 for the first rip. Then 5 for the rest. With this method I just continue to hold the button.

      This is a very technological vaporizer, and it has tricks you cannot image!

      Thanks to bud for personally recommending it to me. I could not be more happy. I also purchased using the link you provided, as I hope everyone does. Great store, perfect for all your vaping needs.

      • Thanks for sharing your experience, the timing may vary a little for each user but as you mentioned the first heat up should be longer and then subsequent heatups should be around 4-5 seconds. This will also vary a little depending on grind consistency so you need to experiment with different durations but 8/4 or 10/5 is a good starting point.

        I’m really glad to hear you’re enjoying it and I’m very appreciative of your support!

  45. Bud,
    I just bought the FF. Been investigating for so long, and was pleased with my decision. Just wanted to thank you for taking the time to educate all of us out here so that we can get the best bang for the buck.
    I love my FF and thought something was wrong with it, but then re-read all the threads about it you answered and your videos and realized it was user error.
    I’m old school and used a one hitter and lighter for last 20 years so a vaporizer is really wondrous to this old timer! Love the effects and the taste and all the other perks of using a vaporizer.
    Thank you Bud for helping this old lady figure out what would be best to buy. I am so happy with my decision.

    • Thanks for posting Elle!

      I’m very happy you’re enjoying the vape and getting good use out of it, this is definitely a good one, especially in the portable category.

      Be well!

  46. I’ve been looking for a new portable vape, I was wondering what your recommendation is. I tried the arizer solo and even though it tasted nice there was way too much draw resistance for me and I thought the [vapor] ran way too hot. I also tried the original davinci and even though it didn’t taste as nice as the solo it was way easier to draw from and the draws weren’t as hot. The adjustable temp was a bonus, not necessary, but nice to have.

    I’ve been looking at the firefly and ascent mostly, but if there’s something else I’d be all ears.

    Thanks.

    • My favorite portables as of now are the Firefly and the Pax, those are the models I use and recommend the most.

      The Firefly is built a little better and produces tastier vapor, but the Pax still performs well and is easier to carry around.

      However, the Pax does have a fair bit of draw resistance, so if that is something you’re not fond of I would go with the FF.

      The Ascent is good also, and doesn’t have as much resistance as the Pax, I just don’t find the vapor to be quite as dense and comfortable and it also seems to work best when fully packed, which is almost 0.5g.

  47. Having a minor issue and was wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. I’ve used my Firefly pretty religiously since I’ve gotten it (5 months) probably 5x a day. I’ve cleaned it with alcohol wipes as instructed but now it seems I’m drawing in too much air like the top isn’t sealing good. I’ve made sure there wasn’t anything causing the top not to seal so i’m wondering if the rubber seal on the top is deteriorating some. My guess would be due to the heat and possibly the alcohol wipes. I know I can purchase a new top for cheap but I want to know if anyone else, especially you Bud has dealt with this issue.

    • Hey Tony I haven’t experienced this issue myself or received any other complaints about it, so I’m inclined to think it may be from using rubbing alcohol on the rubber seal, which over time could cause it to shrink a little and/or deteriorate.

  48. Bud. I own a pax and as of yesterday a firefly. I am having trouble combustion on the firefly. I like taking big draws but the past 2 sessions I ended up burning the content. My pax mouthpiece is stuck and all of my heating tricks to release it are not working. Any tips on sending it back to pax even if I can’t really clean it out to well first since mouth piece is stuck. Hopefully they don’t mind it stinking like [herb]

    • Hey Brad, if you find that the Firefly is combusting your material there are two things to try…

      One is to not hold the heat button for too long, and instead release the button about halfway through your draw. The other thing to do is stir or shake your material in between draws to make sure it’s mixed up so that one area doesn’t get overheated.

      There’s a little bit of trial and error involved but with a little practice you should be able to get good vapor from it without any combustion.

      As far as the Pax, if your mouthpiece is totally stuck it should be ok just to thoroughly clean out the oven before sending it back to Ploom. You can even put a pipe cleaner moistened with rubbing alcohol up the vapor path from the bottom to help clear out most of the residue.

  49. Been using a FF for 5 months now. It rocks! Easy to maintain, no issues whatsoever. I use 3-5 times daily. Charge at night and keep an extra battery on hand. Have taken FF on several backcountry trips and so far has survived, though I have yet to drop it in sand or water. I found a cell phone case at REI that protects it in case of fall. I have used Pax and MLB, but this rules. Easy clean tasty draws. Very good hits with vapor clouds. Thanks Bud for the reviews to help me in making the choice to go this route.

    • Thanks for posting Mike! I’m really happy to hear you’re diggin the vape and it’s workin out for you, this is definitely a good one once you get the technique down.

  50. I have a pax and just got a firefly…both are excellent vapes once you learn how to use them….The pax requires more detailed cleaning as well as lubrication but is easier to sneak in to venues…The firefly so far has given the best tasting vapor once you perfect temp control…..I have ordered another battery for it so it will be better able to be used by several people at get togethers…. The pax battery lasts much longer…

  51. Great website Bud, very informative. I have a helix glass [piece], thats it and i bring it everywhere because I cant bring anything in the house, wifey & kids. I want to go vapor, narrowed it down to the pax or firefly but it looks like there wont be that big of a difference. BUT atmos has a new orbit and transporter that are comprable and cheaper. Have you heard anything about those two new true vapors made by atmos?

  52. Excellent product. I recently got mine and have been using it for a mix of herb and tobacco. I generally grind them together to get it mixed up a bit more, and a 50/50 blend ground loosely gives a wonderful vapor.

    I find that when packed too light, much of the material will get stuck to the inlets just outside the window on the top piece and it’s not as effective. But when packed too full, the material has actually started to combust on a long draw. Point being, it’s a balancing act with this thing- but when you get it right, its incredible!

  53. Hey man, another great review. I’m thinking about selling my Pax and buying the Firefly. I’ve been vaping for over a year now (I’ve never been a smoker btw) and after watching your reviews I got the Plenty for at-home use with my girlfriend and my Pax for on-the-go. We use the half-oven with the Pax and find that to be a nice small efficient compliment to the Plenty but over time I found that we’ve grown to love the vapor quality from the Plenty.

    After getting over the learn curve of the Firefly do you think it’s safe to say it’d be similar to the half-oven of the Pax, in the amount of material it uses and the amount of vapor it produces, and have better quality vapor?

    Also I understand I’m losing the lightweight, sleek and stealth design of the Pax and I guess I’m cool with that… not to the point that I’d consider the Solo but the Firefly seems doable. But is it also safe to say that I won’t have to be constantly cleaning the Firefly after every 3 sessions like I do with the Pax? Also I heard that the Firefly doesn’t have the heavy draw resistance that the Pax has and that I’ve heard the Solo has, is that true? And is it as free flowing as the Plenty is?

    • Hey the Firefly will work with less material in the chamber but to get as many draws as you can from the Pax you’ll probably end up using roughly the same amount. However, the vapor quality is a little better from the FF.

      The FF draw resistance isn’t as bad as the Pax or Solo at all, and it’s also not as free-flowing as the Plenty, but I’ve found that you do need to take a fairly long draw to get a lot of vapor, sometimes 10 seconds or more.

      As for cleaning, this vape won’t have it’s performance compromised if you don’t clean it but after every handful of sessions there will be some buildup on the top cover, and you’ll probably want to rub it off with some ISO.

  54. QUESTION BELOW. I’m having a hard time getting results, but I see in the reviews that there is a technique, which I’m trying to master. I see all reviews of this piece are glowing, so I trust that once I learn it, I’ll be happy. QUESTION: I’m noticing that once I start to draw, it seems that the inflow of air actually cools the oven chamber, and it seems to prevent it from vaporizing. To adjust for this, I’m trying to draw slowly to reduce the inflow of cool outside air into the chamber. But I’m still not getting the results I hear described in the various reviews. Recommendation?

    • Hey I think you should experiment a little more with oven pre-heating times – always heat it up for around 8-10 seconds before your first draw, and then press the heater button about 4-5 seconds before all subsequent draws.

      Definitely draw slowly like you are, and draw for as long as you can. To get a real lot of vapor from this thing you may need to pull for as long as 10-15 seconds.

  55. I actually own three of the vaporizers on your site. I own the Firefly, The Vapir N02 and the Plenty Vaporizer. You were spot on about the Plenty. I love that thing and it’s on another level. To be honest though I actually like my Vapir better then the Firefly. The learning curve for me was very annoying. I also did not get as medicated as I would with the N02 or the Plenty.

    Don’t get me wrong the N02 has it’s problems. I had to buy another one in less than a year when my previous unit started combusting the herb. (It was under warranty but I didn’t feel like sending it back) I just think the Firefly is too much work for to little result. Also the top of my Firefly the seal came lose. I know I can buy another lid, but I wont as I don’t plan on using it again. Anyway love your site.

  56. Do you think this vape compares to the Thermovapes? The cera since its loose leaf and convection. Differences or thoughts? I own a pax and im looking into getting a convection style portable vaporizer. Just want the best one.

  57. Bud, you are dead on correct regarding a slight learning curve that needs to be surmounted in order to get the maximum from your Firefly. Two things I learned to do that immediately resulted in amazingly thick and tasty vapor:

    1. Do not use a superfine grind. Use a coarser grind (the cheap one included with the firefly works great) otherwise particulates will stick to the top of the glass window and might end up in your mouth.

    2. After pre-heating the chamber, take a slow, gentle, but long draw. This was the KEY technique I had initially missed. I was inhaling too fast and with too much force.

    You can take a shorter draw, but don’t inhale too hard. It almost feels like you’re coaxing the vapor out along the grooves. You’ll soon figure out exactly how much draw force to use. If you want a very big draw you will have to commit, in my opinion, to possibly up to 10 seconds of inhalation, but it’s worth it! The taste and thickness is astounding for a portable vaporizer.

  58. I chose the Firefly for my first flower vape, based mostly on your very helpful reviews, including the comparison with the Pax. Ordered it Saturday, received it Wednesday and the flavor is far better than that from other flower vapes I’ve tried. Tasty and easy to use. I can see why it might not be the ideal choice for use on-the-go but your reviews made me confident it was a better choice for me than the Pax and I’m glad I got it. Thank you for your help!

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